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Old 08-02-2013, 08:41 PM   #41
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No, not in terms of booking, writing or production anyway. WWE and TNA have both done some horribly stupid things in recent years. WWE just has the benefit of a legacy and the $ to get away with it. Not to mention, their big surprises can actually be big with folks like Rock, HHH, Taker, HBK, Brock, Austin, Bret, etc. to call on from time to time.

With TNA, outside of Hogan, Angle and Sting, whom all have some kind of full time on-screen role, they have no other big names in wrestling to bring in. They can't really steal any game changing legends or talent away due to Hogan/Bischoff's poor history and the $ and influence of Vince/WWE.

Vince and WWE have a solid 30 year history of building stars like Hogan, Andre, Savage, HBK, Bret, Austin, Rock, HHH, Lesnar, etc. Why would an upcoming talent not want go to WWE and why would a WWE legend want to tarnish their legacy and possibly burn a bridge with Vince, etc.? WWE is not going anywhere anytime soon, TNA on the other hand, we really have no idea.

If however, you were to put WWE in the same situation as TNA in terms of money, history, legends, legacy, etc., I'd say they wouldn't be that far apart in terms of writing quality, wrestling quality and thus viewership/profits/success.
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Old 08-03-2013, 03:52 AM   #42
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Old 08-03-2013, 10:26 AM   #43
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Has TNA ever even contacted Stone Cold Steve Austin? I could see him popping in for an appearance or something. It seems from his radio show that he likes a lot of the TNA guys and is friends with Angle/Sting/etc.

Like the #August1Warning could have just been Stone Cold coming out and stunning everybody and drinking beer and leaving never to be seen again. Then, the next week you do the exact same lights go out/music hits/etc. and its Shark Boy. Then, you wait a while and debut Stone Cold E.T. at BOUND FOR GLORY.
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Old 08-03-2013, 10:31 AM   #44
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In all seriousness, TNA is nowhere near the levels of stupidity that WCW was at towards the end. WCW wouldn't have survived the early 90s if it hadn't been for Ted Turner's bullheadedness. WCW only had a good product for about 3 years (Remember, NWA =/= WCW.) TNA has produced more quality years than WCW did. TNA just overhypes things and goes for quickies rather than going for the whole foreplay and long hard fuck all night sort of thing.

Example, TNA would never have the patience to do what WCW did with Sting. They'd have finished that angle in 3 months.
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Old 08-03-2013, 11:38 AM   #45
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While TNA has a few things that they do correctly, most of what they do is just wrong. The whole "August1Warning" being Tito Ortiz??? WHY?! I know SPIKE wants ratings for a new MMA show, but the way it was done made no sense at all. I could understand if he was part of Aces & Eights and have a "match" versus Rampage but the way it was done was just pathetic. While everyone looked shocked, they really dropped the ball here by making it look like no one had any idea how to react. Way to go TNA! Just one more thing to add to the list of horrible decisions(ex. Hogan & Bischoff!).
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Old 08-03-2013, 02:55 PM   #46
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There is enough entertainment value in TNA for me to watch Impact every week. Austin Aries, Bobby Roode, Bad Influence, the X Division, Kurt Angle, AJ Styles, hell, even Magnus recently...the list goes on. There's at least one great match every week, and very few terrible ones. I think TNA might be more enjoyable for some if they weren't dissecting the booking and just breathing it in instead.

Aces and Eights isn't even that bad. Also, that was one of the more patient angles they've done in a while.
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This is only loosely related to anything, but does it bug anyone else that Rampage doesn't wear a suit as part of the Main Event Mafia? Even Joe wears a suit.
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Old 08-03-2013, 05:58 PM   #49
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This is only loosely related to anything, but does it bug anyone else that Rampage doesn't wear a suit as part of the Main Event Mafia? Even Joe wears a suit.
I was thinking about this the other day. Bugged me as well.
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Old 08-03-2013, 06:40 PM   #50
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This is only loosely related to anything, but does it bug anyone else that Rampage doesn't wear a suit as part of the Main Event Mafia? Even Joe wears a suit.
I've mentioned it on the podcast a couple of times. Drives me fucking nuts. They should at least explain why if he isn't going to. Dunno.
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I dislike people who don't wear suits when they have to.
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How dare you besmirch the name of D'lo Brown. HOW DARE YOU
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Old 08-03-2013, 09:04 PM   #53
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This is only loosely related to anything, but does it bug anyone else that Rampage doesn't wear a suit as part of the Main Event Mafia? Even Joe wears a suit.
Does seem a bit odd but just thought of it as an "A Team" like moment considering he did act in the remake and he gives off a Mr. T like vibes with the chains and no suit.
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Blame Jay Bradley then!
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The hatred for this company on this forum is beyond retarded. The company keeps wrestlers employed, and that's all that should really matter.
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Old 08-04-2013, 06:13 PM   #56
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The hatred for this company on this forum is beyond retarded. The company keeps wrestlers employed, and that's all that should really matter.
You are a moron.

They are an entertainment company that doesn't provide entertainment.

Shut it down.
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1 million viewers a week would disagree with you.
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Dixie Carter is the only thing going for TNA, with that said she should sell the company to Hogan so he can run it properly into the ground.
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I felt that the Hogan/Bischoff coming in stuff could have led to brighter times for TNA, but they sort of dropped the ball with it. The Nasty Boys being in a wrestling promotion in 2009 or whenever it was? Just ridiculous. Bubba the Love Sponge also got hired, and that led to the departure of Awesome Kong. Homicide left shortly after, whereas I think he could have been an awesome X-Division icon for the company. He and Jeff Hardy should have gotten into it over the title right away.
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Dixie Carter should speak to Viacom about paying Dave Bautista a lot of money to sign with them. He has said that he is a WWE guy through and through, but if Viacom could actually get Batista in TNA, a few people might start to watch. Dancin' Dave would be an awesome heel for them. Viacom could just pay Bautista by giving him his own show where he basically serves as a gynecologist for 60:00.
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TNA should also consider approaching Viacom about offering Diamond Dallas Page a TNA contract and his own show for his Yoga stuff getting the guys in the TNA locker room doing drugs into shape. People like DDP.
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You just know a show hosted by Diamond Dallas Page with Jake Roberts, Scott Hall, Kurt Angle and The Hardys sharing a house together would be entertaining and something Eric Bischoff would go for.
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You just know a show hosted by Diamond Dallas Page with Jake Roberts, Scott Hall, Kurt Angle and The Hardys sharing a house together would be entertaining and something Eric Bischoff would go for.
Check out DDP's interview on the Steve Austin show. In Part 2 he explains that he is trying to get something on TV about his Yoga stuff and the Accountability Crib but he doesn't want bullshit control issues from producers. I'm sure Viacom and Bischoff/Hervey would qualify as bullshit control issuers.
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Old 08-11-2013, 04:24 PM   #68
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I was watching the Spectacular Legacy of the AWA and I am driven to ask this question: Has TNA ever done ANYTHING as dumb as when Verne Gagne let Hogan slip away from his company over merchandise percentages?
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TNA isn't big enough to have something be as bad as that. Christ, look to WCW for letting Austin and Foley leave. I'm not counting the Radicals because I find that moment to be highly over-rated.
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Old 08-11-2013, 09:33 PM   #70
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Think it would have just been a matter of time before Hogan left the AWA regardless if Gagne dropped all of his demands or gave everything Hogan wanted.

Vince was on a huge spending and purging spree at the time and the closest he's ever been matched or stopped was when Ted Turner owned WCW.
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Vince would have gotten Hogan regardless. Wrestling was moving in a different direction and Verne refused to adapt.
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1 million viewers a week would disagree with you.
You could run OCW on Spike TV and I doubt there'd be a big drop in ratings. Wrestling fans will watch anything wrestling.
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TNA isn't big enough to have something be as bad as that. Christ, look to WCW for letting Austin and Foley leave. I'm not counting the Radicals because I find that moment to be highly over-rated.
You should count the Radicalz, simply because they tried to use their be-all, end-all big gold belt as a bargaining chip to make Benoit stay, and then turned around and jobbed it right back away from him. That was last straw territory for him AND 3 other unhappy guys jumped ship as well. It might not have been as big a coup to you as an angle as it was for others, but you got to admit letting 4 fairly talented guys go at once is some pretty bad fucking turnover on WCW's part.

You should also count Jericho.
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Oh there's countless mistakes like Jericho, Big Show, etc...

My whole thing about the Radicalz was Saturn and Malenko both saw WAY more success in WCW, Benoit you could argue stayed the same and only Eddie broke out. I think Kevin Sullivan having the book made Benoit leave more than anything.
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Benoit was a fairly huge deal in the WWE for a long time. When he wasn't in the main event, he was still in many of the best feuds on the shows. That best of 7 series with Booker T was one of my favorite series of matches in Smackdown history, playa.
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Benoit winning the World Heavyweight Title at WrestleMania XX was one of the greatest moments in wrestling history. Benoit's story, which really kicked up around the 2003 Royal Rumble, leading to him chasing, getting screwed by Heyman and finally winning the 2004 Royal Rumble and jumping brand was so brilliantly told. Just throwing that out there.

I think one of the stupidest things TNA has ever done was have Monty Brown throw his chances at being NWA World Heavyweight Champion away and align with Jeff Jarrett while being the biggest face in the company.

I'd still go for a TNA/ROH talent exchange or crossover. ROH could help with tag teams and providing some X-Division talent for TNA. In exchange, TNA can give ROH some "bigger names" back for certain shows. AJ Styles, Bad Influence, Austin Aries, Samoa Joe and even Kurt Angle working ROH would be pretty great for the promotion, and it'd give both them and TNA a chance to create a buzz about themselves. OVW could become a pretty decent online thing, too, if they, say, end the Aces & Eights and have the expelled members take residence in OVW. Devon, for example, would become a trainer for TNA/ROH and be an on-air character in their developmental promotion, with Garett Bischoff, Wes Brisco and Knux doing his bidding.
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He held the title for a couple of months and his reign was a complete failure.
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Benoit winning the World Heavyweight Title at WrestleMania XX was one of the greatest moments in wrestling history. Benoit's story, which really kicked up around the 2003 Royal Rumble, leading to him chasing, getting screwed by Heyman and finally winning the 2004 Royal Rumble and jumping brand was so brilliantly told. Just throwing that out there.
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He held the title for a couple of months and his reign was a complete failure.
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