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Old 06-09-2015, 12:47 PM   #81
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I kinda like what's happening with Rusev now. It's adding some dimensions to his character.
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Old 06-09-2015, 01:53 PM   #82
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That isn't even "bad" funny.
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Old 07-15-2015, 08:57 AM   #83
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* Cesaro defeated Rusev in what was said to be a very good lengthy match.
"But maybe he will get in a long feud with Cesaro and then win!!!"

It's official, RIP Rusev. Thanks for giving us the year long build up only to be given the John Cena kiss of death.
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Old 07-15-2015, 09:02 AM   #84
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Old 07-15-2015, 09:03 AM   #85
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SHUT UP YOU FUCKING TERRORIST!!!
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Old 07-15-2015, 09:06 AM   #86
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Why is it the "John Cena kiss of death"? Do guys who get pushes and don't face Cena have their pushes sustained any more?
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Old 07-15-2015, 09:13 AM   #87
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That was in reference to this thread:
How many people has John Cena given "The Kiss of death" to?

As far as your question goes WWE has a problem pushing anyone in the midcard. This is why I'm sad Rusev is now in the midcard, unprotected.
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Old 07-15-2015, 11:34 AM   #88
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If he was losing to to Adam Rose or Ryder them it would over, but he's fine. So stop having pissy panties over a few loses.
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Old 07-15-2015, 11:40 AM   #89
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There is a difference between being fine and being great. Being in mid-card hell is not where anyone should want to be.
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Old 07-15-2015, 11:41 AM   #90
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I thought that 3-way match was one of the best I've seen in a long time. And then to add the Cena match. It was 45 minutes or so, of excellent writing and performance. Rusev came out looking great and Cesaro looked even better.
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Old 07-15-2015, 02:18 PM   #91
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If he was losing to to Adam Rose or Ryder them it would over, but he's fine. So stop having pissy panties over a few loses.
What is the difference from losing to Cesaro and Adam Rose? Not THAT much of a difference honestly.
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Old 07-15-2015, 02:25 PM   #92
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when was the last time adam rose got a pop like cesaro gets? or the last time john cena put adam rose over in front of a crowd after a great match? it's a bit different. both have been booked poorly, but cesaro is definitely above rose's level.
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There is a difference between being fine and being great. Being in mid-card hell is not where anyone should want to be.
He's the 3rd or 4th top heel, depending on where you slot Wyatt
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Old 07-15-2015, 02:39 PM   #94
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That says a lot for how poorly they are booking heels.
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Old 07-15-2015, 03:29 PM   #95
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when was the last time adam rose got a pop like cesaro gets? or the last time john cena put adam rose over in front of a crowd after a great match? it's a bit different. both have been booked poorly, but cesaro is definitely above rose's level.
Hes above Rose yes but hes no where near the top either. Sure he gets a huge pop when he comes out but so does Zack Ryder.
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i didn't say he was near the top. but how would you suggest getting him there? a feud with rusev is a good start, and doesn't necessarily have to make rusev look bad. yes, i know internet wisdom says it will, but it doesn't have to.
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Old 07-15-2015, 04:52 PM   #97
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Rusev right now is on the Bray track of "recovering" from a Cena feud but at a faster pace. Bray didn't really do anything meaningful until the feud with Ambrose while Rusev went from a a nowhere feud with Ziggler to now against Cesaro/US title hunt scene.


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He's the 3rd or 4th top heel, depending on where you slot Wyatt
Who's #2, Sheamus?
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Rusev is basically the best thing in WWE

and Kevin Owens

and Cesaro

So basically that triple threat the other day

But for real Rusev is like the most complex character WWE has had in forever, which is amazing given the seemingly one-dimensional "evil foreigner" gimmick

He's like the fucking beast from Beauty and the Beast

Just this fucking beast full of emotions he doesn't know how to express

He's directionless until he meets Lana

She gets him to move to Russia and pledge allegiance to Vladimir Putin who rewards his amazing skill with a gold star

He valiantly and cleanly beats all of his "AMERICAN" foes exposing the crowd's programmed xenophobia

dude is just so sympathetic

he has his heart broken and his legs literally cut off at his peak

moves back to Bulgaria, dejected

fuckin his girl is using some douche to make him feel jealous all the time

and everyone is just like USA! USA!

meanwhile dude is just trying to put his life back together

but he's learned how to channel his emotion and still can kick the shit out of people because he's that good

he doesn't need the bitch anymore

he's learned that

but it pains him deeply
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The next step is him turning that pain into a love of singing opera.
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Rusev right now is on the Bray track of "recovering" from a Cena feud but at a faster pace. Bray didn't really do anything meaningful until the feud with Ambrose while Rusev went from a a nowhere feud with Ziggler to now against Cesaro/US title hunt scene.




Who's #2, Sheamus?
I'd go

Rollins
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Old 07-15-2015, 07:28 PM   #102
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I'd put Wyatt above Rusev right now. He's feuding with Roman Reigns. Rusev is jobbing to Cesaro on Smackdown. Despite anyone's personal feelings, Reigns is WAY higher on the food chain than Cesaro. With WWE's scatterbrained booking it could change back and forth at any moment but right now Wyatt is definitely above Rusev.
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Old 07-15-2015, 07:32 PM   #103
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What has Wyatt done in a year besides talk in a boiler room? He beat Ambrose by exploding TV, that's it
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What is he currently doing? Feuding with the top face in the company not named Cena or Lesnar. While Rusev jobs to a guy on the B Show who is only getting pushed because his tag partner got hurt. Both guys have spent most of the year jobbing when it matters. Wyatt is currently in a top tier feud though. Rusev isn't.
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Smackdown doesn't count.
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Wait, when did Wyatt "recover" from the Cena feud

Must have missed that
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Wyatt has gone from one of my favorite performers to someone I dread seeing every week

Same thing with CRAZYYYYYYYYYYY Dean Ambrose, hate to say it
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Old 07-15-2015, 08:30 PM   #108
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I still love to see them because they are fantastic workers, but the booking has made it consistently hard to care about what they doing.
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Old 07-15-2015, 08:37 PM   #109
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Yeah, plus neither of them have had much of a chance to show that they're good workers of late.
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they did a good job with ambrose when he stole the title from rollins and got his shot, but pretty much everything before that and since (especially since) has been forgettable. and wyatt's looked laughable since the end of the cena feud. it's a shame, because both guys should be solidified main eventers by now.
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I wasn't a big fan of the Ambrose/Rollins ladder match

Honestly, when I think back on it, their matches together have overall been a disappointment. I keep waiting for them to spit out the classic I know they have in them but instead you get Bray Wyatt holograms or overlong ladder matches.

I hated how Ambrose lost his obsession with ruining Rollins' life this year. He should be out for his blood constantly. Instead he was like any other doomed contender.
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When I first signed up for TPWW I posted in the wrestling forum but I basically stopped watching in 2003. Started up again at the Rumble last year
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I hated how Ambrose lost his obsession with ruining Rollins' life this year. He should be out for his blood constantly. Instead he was like any other doomed contender.
i'm 100% with you on this. after rollins won mitb, ambrose playing the man bent on revenge and ruin was too good. it really helped set the tone for the type of heel that rollins was going to be, and did the same for ambrose. unfortunately, they didn't follow through on ambrose. the feud with wyatt was a bad idea. or at least it was bad timing. neither guy needed to be losing a high profile feud at that point, and neither guy walked away looking better.
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I thought the ladder match was fucking outstanding for Ambrose as far as one night booking of his character. But when you have a guy show that much heart, practically getting murdered and still basically being a fluke away from winning the world title and then a week later he's back to just losing because of a distraction to make someone else look good... it kinda takes you out of caring because it shows how little anything matters long term.
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I still think Bray Wyatt can be the "new Undertaker" but it's going to take a lot of rehab work. Like, have him say spooky shit but deliver on what he says in the promos. People should feud with Wyatt and win or lose, be changed.

He could have lost to Cena at Wrestlemania but he should have driven Cena so crazy that he had to resort to cheating or savagely beating him to get it done. He should have exposed his dark side.

Imagine if that happened and he went over the Undertaker.

Instead he feuds with Cena, then Cena wins the title. He destroys Ambrose and Ambrose gets a title shot. He breaks Ryback's ribs, Ryback gets the Intercontinental title.
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Old 07-15-2015, 08:54 PM   #118
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Dean Ambrose needs to stop being a fucking goofball prop comedian too

Seems so forced

Dude has such a natural "coolness" and humor to him and they bury it beneath poorly written bullshit
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unfortunately, they didn't follow through on...
story of WWEs life.
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can i just say that rusev calling lana things like "that dumb blonde-headed witchy woman" are some of my favorite moments of any raw? he is so funny on the mic, and he's not even trying to be. i never imagined he would be as good as he is when he was in nxt
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