Jump The Shark Moments

[The CyNick]

Originally Posted by Gorgeous Dale Newstead The angle clearly didn't work out for them because it ate shit. If you're just going to bury a bunch of guys then don't do the angle. There's lots of ways around how everything went other than just putting Lance Storm over Steve Austin clean, it just required some outside of the box thinking. Fact is, the product has never had the same amount of steam since, and it's really hard to argue that. I mean I'm sure you will, but it's not really debatable. X7 really was the apex. Vince lost his edge afterwards

I don't think he lost any booking prowess. I think what happened is somewhere along the way he decided it was best to move the company in a more kid friendly direction. I mean if by having edge you mean he did the Satanism angles, Beaver Cleaver, and an angle centred around a man's penis being cut off, I'll take the stuff today thanks. At least I'm not embarrassed turning on the TV when its on.

The biggest difference to me is the performers were better and more importantly hungrier than most of the guys today. I've said this before but the Attitude Era was like having the 70s Montreal Canadiens and saying the coaching was superior. No, it's that the players were a bunch of hall of famers, which is nearly impossible to replicate. Look at the roster at WM 17 and look at the talent today and tell me the roster today is just as good.

The angles themselves, really not much different then compared to today. It's just now we don't have guys killing themselves with chairs and stupid falls, we don't have the bad language (which I admit i thought it was cool...of course I was 16 then), and we have girls being athletes rather than strip club wannabees. Maybe that was "edgy", but I'm an adult, I don't need my sports entertainment to be porn or a live action slasher flick.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Originally Posted by The CyNick I don't think he lost any booking prowess. I think what happened is somewhere along the way he decided it was best to move the company in a more kid friendly direction. I mean if by having edge you mean he did the Satanism angles, Beaver Cleaver, and an angle centred around a man's penis being cut off, I'll take the stuff today thanks. At least I'm not embarrassed turning on the TV when its on. The biggest difference to me is the performers were better and more importantly hungrier than most of the guys today. I've said this before but the Attitude Era was like having the 70s Montreal Canadiens and saying the coaching was superior. No, it's that the players were a bunch of hall of famers, which is nearly impossible to replicate. Look at the roster at WM 17 and look at the talent today and tell me the roster today is just as good. The angles themselves, really not much different then compared to today. It's just now we don't have guys killing themselves with chairs and stupid falls, we don't have the bad language (which I admit i thought it was cool...of course I was 16 then), and we have girls being athletes rather than strip club wannabees. Maybe that was "edgy", but I'm an adult, I don't need my sports entertainment to be porn or a live action slasher flick.

I don't mean edge as in edgey, I mean edge as in competitive edge, intensity, ability to put on top notch television. A lot of the good stuff we saw in 2000/2001 etc.

[The CyNick]

Originally Posted by Gorgeous Dale Newstead I don't mean edge as in edgey, I mean edge as in competitive edge, intensity, ability to put on top notch television. A lot of the good stuff we saw in 2000/2001 etc.

There has been better stuff since then.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Originally Posted by The CyNick There has been better stuff since then.

Mmm hmm.