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Old 11-26-2015, 02:31 PM   #1
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Also Sting beating HHH wouldn't hurt HHH at all. Sting is one of the greatest of all time. Beter than HHH to. Hunter could have given one promo and been right back where he was. WWE has wasted Sting and made his decision not to sign with WWE years ago a smart one. Just wish he would have stayed away from WWE if they weren't going to use him right.
I wasn't angry at HHH for this. He could have said no, but this was one last chance for Vince to say "Fuck you, WCW! I won!" It was incredibly pathetic, if you ask me. The commentary pissed me off the most.
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Old 11-26-2015, 02:42 PM   #2
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I wasn't angry at HHH for this. He could have said no, but this was one last chance for Vince to say "Fuck you, WCW! I won!" It was incredibly pathetic, if you ask me. The commentary pissed me off the most.
How do you know that was the motivation behind the booking?

If Sting going over was the right call for business, why would Vince turn down that money?
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Old 11-26-2015, 03:01 PM   #3
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How do you know that was the motivation behind the booking?

If Sting going over was the right call for business, why would Vince turn down that money?
You overestimate his business acumen and underestimate his inferiority complex.
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Old 11-26-2015, 11:46 PM   #4
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You overestimate his business acumen and underestimate his inferiority complex.
You know this how? You read it online? Have you ever talked to the man?
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Old 11-27-2015, 09:28 PM   #5
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You know this how? You read it online? Have you ever talked to the man?
I heard it from a number of sources, including Corny, who actually, you know, WORKED for the guy.

Also, inferiority complex can easily explain the XFL, WBF, WWE studios, etc. He is ashamed to be in the business, and tries to prove himself the head of a media empire.

Also, inferiority complex can why he frames the Monday Night Wars as Vince vs. Turner, when in reality it was Vince vs. Bischoff. Turner didn't even have Vince on his radar. He couldn't see himself getting upstaged by Verne Gagne's coffee go-fer.

Hell, look up the McMyth's podcast HB2K (iirc) posted that was filled with his delusions.
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Old 11-27-2015, 09:49 PM   #6
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I heard it from a number of sources, including Corny, who actually, you know, WORKED for the guy.

Also, inferiority complex can easily explain the XFL, WBF, WWE studios, etc. He is ashamed to be in the business, and tries to prove himself the head of a media empire.

Also, inferiority complex can why he frames the Monday Night Wars as Vince vs. Turner, when in reality it was Vince vs. Bischoff. Turner didn't even have Vince on his radar. He couldn't see himself getting upstaged by Verne Gagne's coffee go-fer.

Hell, look up the McMyth's podcast HB2K (iirc) posted that was filled with his delusions.
I believe Cornette made statements giving his opinion on Vince making decisions that he didnt agree with, and therefore made the correlation that Vince makes decisions that are not best for business.

LOL. He's tried on multiple occasions to EXPAND his business to other forms of entertainment. Admittedly those were failures, but it doesn't mean he's ashamed of the sports entertainment indutry, hell, he invented it as we know it.

If it wasnt Turner vs Vince, why did Turner call Vince to tell him he was in the "wrasslin" business? Saying it was Eric vs Vince is an insult to Vince, because Eric didnt own WCW. I dont know if you have ever owned a company, but when you are putting everything on the line, its different than some guy who is just drawing a paycheque. Now, on Ted's side, WCW was a small portion of his overall empire, whereas for Vince it was his everything. Which is probably why Vince ultimately won.

Sorry, Mcmyths? I have no idea who that is, and I certainly have no idea what type of connection they have to Vince to know if they are just another parrot of the Dirt Sheets or actually have some useful information to share.
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Old 11-27-2015, 10:07 PM   #7
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Sorry, Mcmyths? I have no idea who that is, and I certainly have no idea what type of connection they have to Vince to know if they are just another parrot of the Dirt Sheets or actually have some useful information to share.
Okay you are legit just a massive troll at this point. McMyths are actual myths perpetuated by the WWE that factually just aren't true. Not reported by the dirt sheets, just shit that doesn't add up. It can be verified just by watching their own product.

McMyth#1) DX "invading" WCW some how was the apex of the Monday Night Wars. Watch it. Nothing happened. Nobody gave a shit. It was a silly crappy angle. And yet, they perpetuate this nonsense in every fucking video about DX. That's not dirtsheet reporting, that's just people using their brains.

If you wish to be an actual contributor to this forum and not have people disparage you, maybe interact like less of a twat, and be smart like you're capable of being.


For now, I am retiring from CyNick world because you talk at me, not to me. Wanted to give you the benefit of the doubt, but you're being too much of a knob. Keep in mind I remember your initial run on the forum where you were being a troll then too, just on exactly the opposite end with pretty much the polar opposite bullshit arguments which made no sense then. So pretty much, you're parodying yourself, and it's getting to the point of silliness.
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Old 11-26-2015, 03:23 PM   #8
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How do you know that was the motivation behind the booking?

If Sting going over was the right call for business, why would Vince turn down that money?
If Sting wins fans get behind him and buy mask, shirts and other merchandise. HHH is not going to seel anymore than what he has for years. Vince has money and doesnt worry about making the max dollar on guys he didnt create.
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If Sting wins fans get behind him and buy mask, shirts and other merchandise. HHH is not going to seel anymore than what he has for years. Vince has money and doesnt worry about making the max dollar on guys he didnt create.
The only people who would be looking to buy Sting masks are likely now in their 30s or 40s. So I'm guessing sales would be minimal. Hard to imagine a new flock of kids seeing 50+ year old Sting and saying "thats my guy".

Gotta let go of your childhood hero man.
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The only people who would be looking to buy Sting masks are likely now in their 30s or 40s. So I'm guessing sales would be minimal. Hard to imagine a new flock of kids seeing 50+ year old Sting and saying "thats my guy".

Gotta let go of your childhood hero man.
Kids don't root for 50 year olds? OK here's where I have a problem with your logic. You say the program is tailored to the kids but WWE can't build up an Icon in this business good eneogh to sell Sting mask to kids. Kids will still root for Sting today and if they dont that just goes to show you how bad HHH did in their program. I suppose kids weren't cheering Undertaker any during Undertaker week seeing how old he is and all.
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Kids don't root for 50 year olds? OK here's where I have a problem with your logic. You say the program is tailored to the kids but WWE can't build up an Icon in this business good eneogh to sell Sting mask to kids. Kids will still root for Sting today and if they dont that just goes to show you how bad HHH did in their program. I suppose kids weren't cheering Undertaker any during Undertaker week seeing how old he is and all.
My youngest nephew is about 9 and (through no fault of mine) he is IN LOVE with UT to the point where we have to get him everything taker related his mom got the WWE network because he asked for more Taker.

Shit there's a video of a special needs child who requested to meet Taker.
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Old 11-27-2015, 08:50 AM   #12
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My youngest nephew is about 9 and (through no fault of mine) he is IN LOVE with UT to the point where we have to get him everything taker related his mom got the WWE network because he asked for more Taker.

Shit there's a video of a special needs child who requested to meet Taker.
You're not seriously comparing Sting to Taker are you? Taker has a legacy in the company that's lasted over a quarter century. Sting is not at a point where he can build such a legacy in WWE. He's gotta live off what people remember. I'm guessing a 9 year old doesn't remember Sting's WCW run.
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Old 11-27-2015, 08:52 AM   #13
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Kids don't root for 50 year olds? OK here's where I have a problem with your logic. You say the program is tailored to the kids but WWE can't build up an Icon in this business good eneogh to sell Sting mask to kids. Kids will still root for Sting today and if they dont that just goes to show you how bad HHH did in their program. I suppose kids weren't cheering Undertaker any during Undertaker week seeing how old he is and all.
I don't think Sting is good enough at this stage of his career to justify pushing him to the point you would need to to get little kids behind him. And if they did, watch how quickly people on here would "lol wwe they are pushing a 50 year old over Kevin Owens"
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You're not seriously comparing Sting to Taker are you? Taker has a legacy in the company that's lasted over a quarter century. Sting is not at a point where he can build such a legacy in WWE. He's gotta live off what people remember. I'm guessing a 9 year old doesn't remember Sting's WCW run.
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I don't think Sting is good enough at this stage of his career to justify pushing him to the point you would need to to get little kids behind him. And if they did, watch how quickly people on here would "lol wwe they are pushing a 50 year old over Kevin Owens"
Yeah Sting and Taker a very comparable, they both have legacys. My point is WWE hasnt capitalized on Stings and have left money off the table. Stings and kids go hand and hand with each other. Kids are smarter than you make them out to be. Sting doesnt have to be pushed to the moon. Why sign him if he didn't justify the selling some merchandise to kids. Like said its WWE and Vince's job to tell Stings story but all they did was stick to killing WCW again. HHH/Sting shouldn't have been anything about WCW but that's what they made it. The only time they used Sting right was the build to Night of Champions as he was playing mind games and messing with Rollins. Sting should have came in and had a big win to build him up and then been used to put talent over. I have no problem with Sting doing the job to Rollins but Rollins had just lost a match to Cena that made Sting look even weaker and did nothing for Rollins.
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The only people who would be looking to buy Sting masks are likely now in their 30s or 40s. So I'm guessing sales would be minimal. Hard to imagine a new flock of kids seeing 50+ year old Sting and saying "thats my guy".

Gotta let go of your childhood hero man.
Hmm, I wonder if any of that is down to HOW THEY HANDLED FUCKING STING?!?!?!
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How do you know that was the motivation behind the booking?

If Sting going over was the right call for business, why would Vince turn down that money?
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