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Old 12-11-2015, 09:29 PM   #1
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Jeeeesus you really have reading comprehension problems. Read what I said and then read that very first line of your response over and over again til something clicks. Seriously.

This is that "Do you really think Sandow is a main event player!?" response to people saying Sandown should have been more and that "LOL What's wrong with someone losing to the top face of the company?" response to people saying constantly jobbing Rollins to Cena was retarded all over again. I don't know if it's an actual mental issue you have or if this is one of your "tactics" when bullshitting your way through a discussion isn't working.
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Old 12-12-2015, 05:38 PM   #2
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Jeeeesus you really have reading comprehension problems. Read what I said and then read that very first line of your response over and over again til something clicks. Seriously.

This is that "Do you really think Sandow is a main event player!?" response to people saying Sandown should have been more and that "LOL What's wrong with someone losing to the top face of the company?" response to people saying constantly jobbing Rollins to Cena was retarded all over again. I don't know if it's an actual mental issue you have or if this is one of your "tactics" when bullshitting your way through a discussion isn't working.
jokes.

You just went back and sifted through old posts and tried to make connections that just aren't there. You take everything I say as though I'm saying this is the word of God and I have claimed to predict the future. I just said I thought the booking was heading in a certain direction. We'll never know if it was or it wasnt. EVEN IF IT WASNT, it doesn't have anything to do with whether or not WWE books in the right way or wrong way. You think Ceasro shouldn't have lost to Big Show. I think it made perfect sense given the bigger picture. You think Cesaro is floundering in no man's land, I think he is/was on the verge of a big push. We'll see what happens when he gets back. Unfortunately for you I will have forgotten what you said on the matter because I dont obsess about your posts like you do mine. Maybe Noid will remember it, and give you a big hug to make you feel better.
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Old 12-12-2015, 05:42 PM   #3
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Ratings news. Smackdown was up this week.

What does it all mean? A turnaround?
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Old 12-12-2015, 07:00 PM   #4
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Ratings news. Smackdown was up this week.

What does it all mean? A turnaround?
"It's been a little colder this year than it was last year.

GLOBAL WARMING IS A MYTH!"
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Old 12-12-2015, 11:17 PM   #5
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I just said I thought the booking was heading in a certain direction. We'll never know if it was or it wasnt. EVEN IF IT WASNT, it doesn't have anything to do with whether or not WWE books in the right way or wrong way. You think Ceasro shouldn't have lost to Big Show. I think it made perfect sense given the bigger picture. You think Cesaro is floundering in no man's land, I think he is/was on the verge of a big push.
That sound you're all hearing is everything going right over CyNick's head again and again.

It has everything to do with whether WWE books in the right way. That's the whole point that you clearly aren't getting.

It's not that Cesaro was or wasn't on the verge of a big push or is floundering in no man's land. The point is even if Cesaro is or was in line for a big push, WWE doesn't properly book Cesaro (or anyone else for that matter) even when they're clearly behind/pushing guys.

As a result, almost everyone is floundering in no man's land. Cesaro, Rollins, Reigns, etc. are all perfect examples of WWE's inability to effectively write/book someone and get/keep them over, even the talent they're currently pushing.

Not to mention WWE's inability to notice/care when someone is already over/getting over and continue to keep their momentum going or at least avoid killing their momentum through horrible writing/booking. See Bray Wyatt, Ziggler, Ambrose, Cesaro, etc.
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Old 12-13-2015, 02:27 AM   #6
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That sound you're all hearing is everything going right over CyNick's head again and again.
I was wondering why it felt so drafty in this thread.
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Old 12-15-2015, 04:18 PM   #7
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That sound you're all hearing is everything going right over CyNick's head again and again.

It has everything to do with whether WWE books in the right way. That's the whole point that you clearly aren't getting.

It's not that Cesaro was or wasn't on the verge of a big push or is floundering in no man's land. The point is even if Cesaro is or was in line for a big push, WWE doesn't properly book Cesaro (or anyone else for that matter) even when they're clearly behind/pushing guys.

As a result, almost everyone is floundering in no man's land. Cesaro, Rollins, Reigns, etc. are all perfect examples of WWE's inability to effectively write/book someone and get/keep them over, even the talent they're currently pushing.

Not to mention WWE's inability to notice/care when someone is already over/getting over and continue to keep their momentum going or at least avoid killing their momentum through horrible writing/booking. See Bray Wyatt, Ziggler, Ambrose, Cesaro, etc.
Cesaro has not yet been pushed to main event level. As proven with Reigns, and Bryan before that, when WWE wants to get a guy to that level they can and will.
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Old 12-15-2015, 04:52 PM   #8
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As proven with Reigns, and Bryan before that, when WWE wants to get a guy to that level they can and will.
... Alright, this does come off as pretty troll-y. lol
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Old 12-15-2015, 05:13 PM   #9
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... Alright, this does come off as pretty troll-y. lol
Oh, he's totally a troll. Ordinarily I wouldn't waste my time, but at least CyNick keeps it interesting. Even if he usually lacks logic, evidence, reasoning or consistency.
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Old 12-17-2015, 05:59 PM   #10
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... Alright, this does come off as pretty troll-y. lol
You only perceive it that way because you don't believe WWE planned to push Bryan. I happen to believe his push was well orchestrated and executed.

It's like telling Columbus he's a troll for saying the Earth is round. You may have a bunch of people who agree with you, but history will prove you wrong.
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Old 12-17-2015, 06:45 PM   #11
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You only perceive it that way because you don't believe WWE planned to push Bryan. I happen to believe his push was well orchestrated and executed.

It's like telling Columbus he's a troll for saying the Earth is round. You may have a bunch of people who agree with you, but history will prove you wrong.
Columbus wasn't saying the Earth was round, that was already proven before he traveled across the Atlantic. So history proves you wrong.
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You only perceive it that way because you don't believe WWE planned to push Bryan. I happen to believe his push was well orchestrated and executed.

It's like telling Columbus he's a troll for saying the Earth is round. You may have a bunch of people who agree with you, but history will prove you wrong.
I would compare you more to a guy who is telling everyone the earth is sitting on the back of a giant turtle and that history will prove him right.
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Old 12-15-2015, 05:12 PM   #13
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Cesaro has not yet been pushed to main event level. As proven with Reigns, and Bryan before that, when WWE wants to get a guy to that level they can and will.
There's that sound again.

That's not the point.

Why would you repeatedly try to push Upcoming Superstar A (i.e., Reigns) in the same way, month after month, when it's clearly not working? At least it seems they FINALLY tried a different route with Reigns on Sunday and Monday.

In addition, when Upcoming Superstar B (i.e., Ziggler, Cesaro, Dean. Fucking. Ambrose., etc.) is already over/getting over naturally on their own, why not let them continue to do their own thing and try pushing Upcoming Superstar B instead of killing Upcoming Superstar B's momentum with either intentional or negligent horrible writing/booking?
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There's that sound again.

That's not the point.

Why would you repeatedly try to push Upcoming Superstar A (i.e., Reigns) in the same way, month after month, when it's clearly not working? At least it seems they FINALLY tried a different route with Reigns on Sunday and Monday.

In addition, when Upcoming Superstar B (i.e., Ziggler, Cesaro, Dean. Fucking. Ambrose., etc.) is already over/getting over naturally on their own, why not let them continue to do their own thing and try pushing Upcoming Superstar B instead of killing Upcoming Superstar B's momentum with either intentional or negligent horrible writing/booking?
Why are you pretending like they have been trying to get Roman over as THE GUY for months and months? He took a backseat to Rollins, who was feuding with guys like Ambrose, Lesnar, Sting, Kane, and Cena. Roman was in secondary programs. They really started pushing him as THE GUY coming out of Survivor Series. They told a story over 6 weeks or so with Reigns getting screwed time after time. Finally he reached a breaking point, and he stepped up his agression and developed an i don't give a fuck attitude while still cutting cheesy 2015 babyface promos. To me that's just great storytelling and excellent character progression.

Funny how the sheep on here quickly change their stance on Roman. Maybe next time you will have faith that WWE know what they are doing. Actually you guys never learn, so you will look foolish next time too.
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Why are you pretending like they have been trying to get Roman over as THE GUY for months and months? He took a backseat to Rollins, who was feuding with guys like Ambrose, Lesnar, Sting, Kane, and Cena. Roman was in secondary programs. They really started pushing him as THE GUY coming out of Survivor Series. They told a story over 6 weeks or so with Reigns getting screwed time after time. Finally he reached a breaking point, and he stepped up his agression and developed an i don't give a fuck attitude while still cutting cheesy 2015 babyface promos. To me that's just great storytelling and excellent character progression.

Funny how the sheep on here quickly change their stance on Roman. Maybe next time you will have faith that WWE know what they are doing. Actually you guys never learn, so you will look foolish next time too.
You can't be serious or this stupid. They've been pushing him as the next guy since Royal Rumble this year. Just because the fans shit on the idea of him winning at Mania against Lesnar did they pull back a little and hold off.

If Vince & co. could've gotten away with putting the title on him at WM, they would've. If Vince & co. could've kept presenting him as a bubble gum, Cena 2.0 baby face, who kept cutting long, horribly written promos they would've. Hell, they could still fall back into that pattern at anytime.
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