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Old 08-23-2005, 10:06 PM   #1
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Because people apply reasoning, and choose who they like, not who they're told to like?

Yeah, I can see it too.
No, because there flacid and unwilling to say anything positive.
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Old 08-23-2005, 10:13 PM   #2
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No, because there flacid and unwilling to say anything positive.
Dude, get the blinders off. A thread panning Masters proves that they won't say anything positive? Look at the "3 things the WWE is doing right" thread, you semi literate bastard, before you go for the theatrics.

Masters is shit, that doesn't prove nobody says positive things on the internet. Get over yourself.
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Old 08-23-2005, 10:15 PM   #3
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Dude, get the blinders off. A thread panning Masters proves that they won't say anything positive? Look at the "3 things the WWE is doing right" thread, you semi literate bastard, before you go for the theatrics.

Masters is shit, that doesn't prove nobody says positive things on the internet. Get over yourself.
1 thread out of 201 pages of em. And the dude post that oppend with something similar to to much negativity.
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Old 08-23-2005, 10:20 PM   #4
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1 thread out of 201 pages of em. And the dude post that oppend with something similar to to much negativity.
Too much, not only.

And one thread by name.

Pay attention, man. You said they can't say anything good. Plenty of people have praised Raw this week, praised Summerslam, and praised a lot of things about the WWE.

But let's ignore than, and drama Queen our way into how everyone is incapable of syaing something positive.

IT's not about Masters, or whatever's up your craw, it's about how there's nothing positive out there!!!!!11111oneoneoneone!
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Old 08-23-2005, 10:18 PM   #5
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Dude, get the blinders off. A thread panning Masters proves that they won't say anything positive? Look at the "3 things the WWE is doing right" thread, you semi literate bastard, before you go for the theatrics.

Masters is shit, that doesn't prove nobody says positive things on the internet. Get over yourself.
Here's a situation... Batista debuts as DEACON BATISTA. Wow he was fucking SHIT! He got FUCKED by a shitty gimmick and shitty and few opponents. The guy is HUGE (like Masters), doesnt get to beat alot of big names and wow.. he still wasn't over. He comes to RAW and get's THE ANIMAL gimmick where he is basically allowed to destroy every good wrestler on the roster with very little selling. People eat that shit right up.

Master's on the other hand, get's to wrestle fans... Stevie richards, Val venis....
and not achieve even very decent victories. He is being fucked.
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Old 08-23-2005, 10:35 PM   #6
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Here's a situation... Batista debuts as DEACON BATISTA. Wow he was fucking SHIT! He got FUCKED by a shitty gimmick and shitty and few opponents. The guy is HUGE (like Masters), doesnt get to beat alot of big names and wow.. he still wasn't over. He comes to RAW and get's THE ANIMAL gimmick where he is basically allowed to destroy every good wrestler on the roster with very little selling. People eat that shit right up.

Master's on the other hand, get's to wrestle fans... Stevie richards, Val venis....
and not achieve even very decent victories. He is being fucked.
The guy also has a better look (HE doesn't make me laugh when he comes to the ring), though currently his dancing is laughable. The guy also makes his moves look worth a fuck (His Spinebuster actually makes the move look valid). Masters has come down to the ring, attempting to look like a "Masterpiece" while chewing gum, his moves are sloppy.

I mean honestly, the best comparison you can draw between the two is that they're big. Batista didn't magically become good because of his new gimmick, nor was he bad because of his last one. A gimmick can hurt or help a wrestler, but when you have nothing to work with, a good gimmick can't save you.

Repackaging someone doesn't make them any better. In fact, it didn't sstop BAtista from getting BOOED when he started talking, or after he won the championship. So I'd say your comparison is a weak one. Especially since, instead of immediately being thrust up to work with a main eventer, he...You know...Was someone's sidekick, and actually developed and progressed.

But Hell, everything else is valid...Except for most of it, which I have just argued against. Oh, and the fact that Batista's popularity seems to be waning now that the novelty is wearing off. But yeah, other than that, brilliant way of putting me in my place.
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Old 08-23-2005, 10:38 PM   #7
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The guy also has a better look
Better look after he joined evolution with TRIPLE H and RIC FLAIR.

He was originally walking around with a COLLECTION BOX, yeah ok your so right.
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Old 08-23-2005, 10:42 PM   #8
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Better look after he joined evolution with TRIPLE H and RIC FLAIR.

He was originally walking around with a COLLECTION BOX, yeah ok your so right.
I mean physique, fuckwit.

Batista in this gimmick would get over better due to in ring performance and actual look.
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Old 08-23-2005, 10:44 PM   #9
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The guy also has a better look (HE doesn't make me laugh when he comes to the ring), though currently his dancing is laughable. The guy also makes his moves look worth a fuck (His Spinebuster actually makes the move look valid). Masters has come down to the ring, attempting to look like a "Masterpiece" while chewing gum, his moves are sloppy.

I mean honestly, the best comparison you can draw between the two is that they're big. Batista didn't magically become good because of his new gimmick, nor was he bad because of his last one. A gimmick can hurt or help a wrestler, but when you have nothing to work with, a good gimmick can't save you.

Repackaging someone doesn't make them any better. In fact, it didn't sstop BAtista from getting BOOED when he started talking, or after he won the championship. So I'd say your comparison is a weak one. Especially since, instead of immediately being thrust up to work with a main eventer, he...You know...Was someone's sidekick, and actually developed and progressed.

But Hell, everything else is valid...Except for most of it, which I have just argued against. Oh, and the fact that Batista's popularity seems to be waning now that the novelty is wearing off. But yeah, other than that, brilliant way of putting me in my place.
1) Batista moves look like shit, except his p-bomb
2) whats wrong with chewing gum? Its an easy way to look cocky. Jericho does it all the time.
3) Batista became majically because he wrestled top stars for no reason, and beat them down. Hell Im still pissed they put him over Kane when he had zero fan reaction
4) Repackaging has helped alot of people, ring master wasnt workin well if I remember right. Neither was Izzak Yakem.
5) Who has this gimmick WORKED for?
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