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Old 08-23-2005, 09:08 PM   #81
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Main Entry: hy·per·bo·le
Pronunciation: hI-'p&r-b&-(")lE
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Etymology: Latin, from Greek hyperbolE excess, hyperbole, hyperbola, from hyperballein to exceed, from hyper- + ballein to throw
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Just like my watermellon refrence.
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Old 08-23-2005, 09:10 PM   #82
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GET OFF THE DAMN MESSAGE BOARD IF YOU CAN'T STAND THE HEAT!
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Old 08-23-2005, 09:11 PM   #83
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I'm willing to say something posiitive about the wrestlers who deserve it. hell' I'll practically gush over Kurt Angle. Masters doesn't deserve any credit.
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Old 08-23-2005, 09:11 PM   #84
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He's never been in the ring with anyone above Low/Midcard level. Except when the Big Show PUNKED HIM OUT. The path has not been paved for him, this week's raw is his first chance in the ring with an ACTUAL name. Stevie Richards is a piece of shit jobber who has not won a memorable match in years. That doesn't even count.
But you don't need to be up against a big name to get yourself over with the crowd. Fuck's sake, use some common sense. Who cares if he hasn't been in the ring with a main eventer? What difference does it make if he can't cut a promo against a dark matcher or a main eventer?
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Old 08-23-2005, 09:11 PM   #85
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Main Entry: hy·per·bo·le
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Function: noun
Etymology: Latin, from Greek hyperbolE excess, hyperbole, hyperbola, from hyperballein to exceed, from hyper- + ballein to throw
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Just like my watermellon refrence.
Well, except that your watermelon was off the mark, but yes.
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Old 08-23-2005, 09:12 PM   #86
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But you don't need to be up against a big name to get yourself over with the crowd. Fuck's sake, use some common sense. Who cares if he hasn't been in the ring with a main eventer? What difference does it make if he can't cut a promo against a dark matcher or a main eventer?
It make's a big difference when you are in the ring with complete shit, and no one is there to see you. It also makes a difference not having a fued to get people even remotely interested in you.
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Old 08-23-2005, 09:13 PM   #87
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No, because there flacid and unwilling to say anything positive.
Dude, get the blinders off. A thread panning Masters proves that they won't say anything positive? Look at the "3 things the WWE is doing right" thread, you semi literate bastard, before you go for the theatrics.

Masters is shit, that doesn't prove nobody says positive things on the internet. Get over yourself.
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Old 08-23-2005, 09:14 PM   #88
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Well, except that your watermelon was off the mark, but yes.
It was hyperbole, no mater what you think, and im black so it dont mater.
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Man shut up,
And you know what, get off Kane Knights dick. Every time he post's you are right there to suck his ass with a follow-up.
Bite me dough boy. If that's what I have to do to keep my self-esteme up, I'll let HHH assrape me.
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Old 08-23-2005, 09:15 PM   #90
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Dude, get the blinders off. A thread panning Masters proves that they won't say anything positive? Look at the "3 things the WWE is doing right" thread, you semi literate bastard, before you go for the theatrics.

Masters is shit, that doesn't prove nobody says positive things on the internet. Get over yourself.
1 thread out of 201 pages of em. And the dude post that oppend with something similar to to much negativity.
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Old 08-23-2005, 09:17 PM   #91
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It make's a big difference when you are in the ring with complete shit, and no one is there to see you. It also makes a difference not having a fued to get people even remotely interested in you.
Which would be great if he could get a fan reaction.

BTW, PLENTY of people are there to see him. They just get bored. He's been given a ton of TV time, you can't claim no one's there to see him. They just don't care because he's shit.

The local talent are there to make him look strong, it's not that hard to figure out. They're also failing, but not because it's a bad idea. It's worked pretty well with other people. I don't see why pushing the guy to the moon will make him any better, except maybe someone will carry his weak ass to a decent match.
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Old 08-23-2005, 09:18 PM   #92
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Dude, get the blinders off. A thread panning Masters proves that they won't say anything positive? Look at the "3 things the WWE is doing right" thread, you semi literate bastard, before you go for the theatrics.

Masters is shit, that doesn't prove nobody says positive things on the internet. Get over yourself.
Here's a situation... Batista debuts as DEACON BATISTA. Wow he was fucking SHIT! He got FUCKED by a shitty gimmick and shitty and few opponents. The guy is HUGE (like Masters), doesnt get to beat alot of big names and wow.. he still wasn't over. He comes to RAW and get's THE ANIMAL gimmick where he is basically allowed to destroy every good wrestler on the roster with very little selling. People eat that shit right up.

Master's on the other hand, get's to wrestle fans... Stevie richards, Val venis....
and not achieve even very decent victories. He is being fucked.
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Old 08-23-2005, 09:20 PM   #93
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Like I said this HBK fued could be the begining for Masters.
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Old 08-23-2005, 09:20 PM   #94
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1 thread out of 201 pages of em. And the dude post that oppend with something similar to to much negativity.
Too much, not only.

And one thread by name.

Pay attention, man. You said they can't say anything good. Plenty of people have praised Raw this week, praised Summerslam, and praised a lot of things about the WWE.

But let's ignore than, and drama Queen our way into how everyone is incapable of syaing something positive.

IT's not about Masters, or whatever's up your craw, it's about how there's nothing positive out there!!!!!11111oneoneoneone!
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And I never got an example of someone this gimmick worked for...
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Old 08-23-2005, 09:21 PM   #96
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It was hyperbole, no mater what you think, and im black so it dont mater.
IT was hyperbole, it was just also an improper use, since the idea is to exaggerate for EFFECT. It's hard to get effect when you're giving an improper example.
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Old 08-23-2005, 09:22 PM   #97
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reply to me KK, or... Are you completely fucking wrong? Changing the subject .. Weak.
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Old 08-23-2005, 09:23 PM   #98
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I'm willing to say something posiitive about the wrestlers who deserve it. hell' I'll practically gush over Kurt Angle. Masters doesn't deserve any credit.
Yeah but who wont mark out for Angle....
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And I never got an example of someone this gimmick worked for...
Oh? Where did you ask for one? Was that before or after I mentioned that even Jindrak got a better response with that (He's not the best example, for sure, but one has been given...If he's not enough, I understand, but I HAVE made mention of the gimick being used before)? I'm sorry, in the constant bickering with you two 'tards, I may have missed a few posts here and there.

Doesn't the fact that this is a repackaged gimmick, reused for a new superstar (And that they thought so much of it, they've used it TWICE of late) indicate that it might have been successful? Or are you saying that the WWE rehashes flopped gimmicks?
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reply to me KK, or... Are you completely fucking wrong? Changing the subject .. Weak.
I'm sorry, but I can only type so fast, and I've got more than the one tard to keep up with.
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Oh? Where did you ask for one? Was that before or after I mentioned that even Jindrak got a better response with that (He's not the best example, for sure, but one has been given...If he's not enough, I understand, but I HAVE made mention of the gimick being used before)? I'm sorry, in the constant bickering with you two 'tards, I may have missed a few posts here and there.

Doesn't the fact that this is a repackaged gimmick, reused for a new superstar (And that they thought so much of it, they've used it TWICE of late) indicate that it might have been successful? Or are you saying that the WWE rehashes flopped gimmicks?
You mentioned earlier it didnt work for Jindrak, and im still waiting for someone its WORKED for. I dont see Jindrak in the main event.
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You mentioned earlier it didnt work for Jindrak, and im still waiting for someone its WORKED for. I dont see Jindrak in the main event.
haha yeah, where are these THOUSANDS of Top Notch stars who have gotten over through making fans/low midcarders tap out.
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haha yeah, where are these THOUSANDS of Top Notch stars who have gotten over through making fans/low midcarders tap out.
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Here's a situation... Batista debuts as DEACON BATISTA. Wow he was fucking SHIT! He got FUCKED by a shitty gimmick and shitty and few opponents. The guy is HUGE (like Masters), doesnt get to beat alot of big names and wow.. he still wasn't over. He comes to RAW and get's THE ANIMAL gimmick where he is basically allowed to destroy every good wrestler on the roster with very little selling. People eat that shit right up.

Master's on the other hand, get's to wrestle fans... Stevie richards, Val venis....
and not achieve even very decent victories. He is being fucked.
The guy also has a better look (HE doesn't make me laugh when he comes to the ring), though currently his dancing is laughable. The guy also makes his moves look worth a fuck (His Spinebuster actually makes the move look valid). Masters has come down to the ring, attempting to look like a "Masterpiece" while chewing gum, his moves are sloppy.

I mean honestly, the best comparison you can draw between the two is that they're big. Batista didn't magically become good because of his new gimmick, nor was he bad because of his last one. A gimmick can hurt or help a wrestler, but when you have nothing to work with, a good gimmick can't save you.

Repackaging someone doesn't make them any better. In fact, it didn't sstop BAtista from getting BOOED when he started talking, or after he won the championship. So I'd say your comparison is a weak one. Especially since, instead of immediately being thrust up to work with a main eventer, he...You know...Was someone's sidekick, and actually developed and progressed.

But Hell, everything else is valid...Except for most of it, which I have just argued against. Oh, and the fact that Batista's popularity seems to be waning now that the novelty is wearing off. But yeah, other than that, brilliant way of putting me in my place.
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Old 08-23-2005, 09:37 PM   #110
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Shoulden't take alot to keep up with "tard's" jackass.
On the contrary. You don't seem to put any thought or effort into what you write.

Therefore, you can post shit much faster than someone who does. Not to mention there's two of you trying to put the same level of "thought" into your arguments.

And every time I answer one of you fuckwits, the other starts in on how I'm ignoring the other. I'd accuse you of being lovers, but the thought of either of your procreating is scary beyond all reason.
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Old 08-23-2005, 09:38 PM   #111
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haha yeah, where are these THOUSANDS of Top Notch stars who have gotten over through making fans/low midcarders tap out.
Except I didn't say top notch stars, but if you've got to MAKE UP An argument to feel like a winner, you probably need the "victory."
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Old 08-23-2005, 09:38 PM   #112
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The guy also has a better look
Better look after he joined evolution with TRIPLE H and RIC FLAIR.

He was originally walking around with a COLLECTION BOX, yeah ok your so right.
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Old 08-23-2005, 09:41 PM   #113
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Who has WORKED for? you already admitted Jindrak didnt pull it off.
No, I sarcastically implied that it's not like Jindrak got more over (Which he did) with this gimmick. I then went on to blame everyone but Masters, so I thought I was crystal clear that it WAS sarcasm.

My bad. I assumed that you'd realise a statement in which I say it's everyone's fault but Masters would be false, and therefore a sarcastic or ironic response.
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Oh and to top it off, followed around Reverand D-von dudley , and I bet its Batista's fault he wasnt over then.
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Old 08-23-2005, 09:42 PM   #115
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Better look after he joined evolution with TRIPLE H and RIC FLAIR.

He was originally walking around with a COLLECTION BOX, yeah ok your so right.
I mean physique, fuckwit.

Batista in this gimmick would get over better due to in ring performance and actual look.
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Nice copout, ThruTheWire. Get shown up for being a moron, try and pull a weak humour deflection.
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I felt it was unnecessary. Since you still don't even have an argument.
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The guy also has a better look (HE doesn't make me laugh when he comes to the ring), though currently his dancing is laughable. The guy also makes his moves look worth a fuck (His Spinebuster actually makes the move look valid). Masters has come down to the ring, attempting to look like a "Masterpiece" while chewing gum, his moves are sloppy.

I mean honestly, the best comparison you can draw between the two is that they're big. Batista didn't magically become good because of his new gimmick, nor was he bad because of his last one. A gimmick can hurt or help a wrestler, but when you have nothing to work with, a good gimmick can't save you.

Repackaging someone doesn't make them any better. In fact, it didn't sstop BAtista from getting BOOED when he started talking, or after he won the championship. So I'd say your comparison is a weak one. Especially since, instead of immediately being thrust up to work with a main eventer, he...You know...Was someone's sidekick, and actually developed and progressed.

But Hell, everything else is valid...Except for most of it, which I have just argued against. Oh, and the fact that Batista's popularity seems to be waning now that the novelty is wearing off. But yeah, other than that, brilliant way of putting me in my place.
1) Batista moves look like shit, except his p-bomb
2) whats wrong with chewing gum? Its an easy way to look cocky. Jericho does it all the time.
3) Batista became majically because he wrestled top stars for no reason, and beat them down. Hell Im still pissed they put him over Kane when he had zero fan reaction
4) Repackaging has helped alot of people, ring master wasnt workin well if I remember right. Neither was Izzak Yakem.
5) Who has this gimmick WORKED for?
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You mentioned earlier it didnt work for Jindrak, and im still waiting for someone its WORKED for. I dont see Jindrak in the main event.
Hi. Wrestlers who got over by berating/humiliating and/or challenging the fans:

--Hercules Hernandez. Masters is doing the exact same gimmick, except he doesn't have Bobby Heenan cutitng promos for him
--Big Joh Studd and the Body Slam/Arm Wrestling Challenge
--Million Dollar Man Ted Dibiase Didn't even get in a ring for his first three months in the WWF.
--Heel Old school Ken Patera
--Kurt Angle Three I's. Fought a ton of mid-carders early on
--E & C. Again, just workign the crowd. Not really a debut, but the photo opportunity stuff is what put them in the upper midcard scene

I could actually go on, but I think thats a good sample size of people who were given the same kind of time and opportunity and eventually ended up as headliners.
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