I want everyone to remember something....

[Kane Knight]

Originally Posted by destor18 There little fan boyish about it. The guy hasnt done a damn thing wrong. I refuse to hate someone who hasnt earned it. Its that simple. So he broke Stevie's nose, this aint hop-scotch. As far as his moves looking bad, there no worse than Cena's. And time WILL tell, so the aurguments futile.

I'll type this slow so you can understand.

Not having done anything wrong yet does not mean he's destined for greatness, which is what you're asserting. You can't cite anything that he's done worthy of fan attention? You justify this all in the blind faith that not having "dropped the ball," Which you lose on because you insist he lacks exposure (Or was that the other one of you guys), is good enough to equal something positive. Except the odds are running strong that he'll be an also-ran if anything other than shit.

You insist he's got potential. Not having screwed up yet =/= potential. And I'm being generous enough to ignore his sloppy wrestling, lack of mic skills, and lack of crowd reaction in terms of "screwing up" for the sake of this statement.

By the way, Cena IS better than him. HE's been watered down since he's been pushed to the main event, but he's got the chops. However, when pushed to the main event, a wrestler ALWAYS suffers a loss of moves, especially higher risk moves (But not limited to that). However, he's relying on charisma and actual fan reactions a la most main eventers. These are things that Cena had at a stage in his career comparable to Masters current location. These are things that establish someone, not dead crowds. Not even wrestling skills, necessarily (IF this was true, I'd never praise JBL).

You're making assertions you can't seem to back up in terms of what he's got, and ignoring that he's gotten better and more exposure than most superstars on TV.

So what is there? Tell me, instead of saying "I'm a fan because he hasn't screwed up," tell me a real reason. Being a fan implies you think positive things, but you can't seem to give me a positive thing, only a lack of a negative (Essentially a breakeven point that he hasn't dropped the ball, which ignores a LOT of important factors). And since you can't seem to successfully put even THAT forth, I can't see what's worth being a fan for, or being so sure that he'll go places.

And if that is all you can assert to support your assertions, then yes, that is very much fanboyism.

[Destor]

Originally Posted by Kane Knight I'll type this slow so you can understand. Not having done anything wrong yet does not mean he's destined for greatness, which is what you're asserting. You can't cite anything that he's done worthy of fan attention? You justify this all in the blind faith that not having "dropped the ball," Which you lose on because you insist he lacks exposure (Or was that the other one of you guys), is good enough to equal something positive. Except the odds are running strong that he'll be an also-ran if anything other than shit. You insist he's got potential. Not having screwed up yet =/= potential. And I'm being generous enough to ignore his sloppy wrestling, lack of mic skills, and lack of crowd reaction in terms of "screwing up" for the sake of this statement. By the way, Cena IS better than him. HE's been watered down since he's been pushed to the main event, but he's got the chops. However, when pushed to the main event, a wrestler ALWAYS suffers a loss of moves, especially higher risk moves (But not limited to that). However, he's relying on charisma and actual fan reactions a la most main eventers. These are things that Cena had at a stage in his career comparable to Masters current location. These are things that establish someone, not dead crowds. Not even wrestling skills, necessarily (IF this was true, I'd never praise JBL). You're making assertions you can't seem to back up in terms of what he's got, and ignoring that he's gotten better and more exposure than most superstars on TV. So what is there? Tell me, instead of saying "I'm a fan because he hasn't screwed up," tell me a real reason. Being a fan implies you think positive things, but you can't seem to give me a positive thing, only a lack of a negative (Essentially a breakeven point that he hasn't dropped the ball, which ignores a LOT of important factors). And since you can't seem to successfully put even THAT forth, I can't see what's worth being a fan for, or being so sure that he'll go places.

Well, thats pretty much it, I will be on his side until hes gives me a reason not to, which may be soon. He cuts adaquit promos for lower mid-card (better than I evr heard Paul London, or even Shelton Bejamin, god there awful), im not exspecting gold. His matches are indeed sub-par but the in the WWE that doesnt really matter. I cant comprehend hating a guy for no reason, soon I may have one, but I dont. He is not in the Main event, just because he gets a match with HBK doesnt make him a main eventer. And no, not screwing up yet is not potential, its a reason not to hate the guy, when he does screw up, thats a diffrent story.