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Old 12-05-2010, 06:51 PM   #1
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Some players don't want to be the franchise guy - like it or not, Werth is that now. Him, Zimmerman and Stratsburg
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Old 12-05-2010, 07:11 PM   #2
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But he's making $126 million even if he sucks.

He won't regret making that.
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Old 12-05-2010, 07:15 PM   #3
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Dablack guy lol'ing at Werth. Werth's lol'ing all the way to the bank.
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Dablack guy lol'ing at Werth. Werth's lol'ing all the way to the bank.
Also lol at the chances of 38 year old Werth being able to produce at an 18 million dollar rate

Can't knock the guy, somebody vastly overpaid him and he took the money. Good for him.
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Old 12-05-2010, 07:31 PM   #5
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Also lol at the chances of 38 year old Werth being able to produce at an 18 million dollar rate

Can't knock the guy, somebody vastly overpaid him and he took the money. Good for him.

Thats what my brother always says about Milton Bradley.

But yeah I guess he won't regret it, but if he's any kind of competitor, he will be frustrated a lot.
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Old 12-05-2010, 07:21 PM   #6
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Can't believe the Nationals ponied up the cash for Werth. Scott Boras must have done a pretty good job put that together.

The ball's in Crawford and Lee's court now.
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Red Sox and Padres decided to make the trade without the extension. I'm sure they'll keep working on it, but A-Gon is now in Boston.
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Guess it turned out to be a good day for BoSox fans after all.

When Theo and A-Gon return to the table for contract talks, I'd like to be a fly on the wall in that room.
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What a fucking day. I was so fucking angry. They still need to get a contract in place but at least he's here for next year.
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10 minutes after the deal went cold my father told me the Yankees signed Cliff Lee and Crawford just to fuck with me

I guess Crawford will go to the Tigers now. Nobody is going to compete with NY for Lee unless Texas opens their wallet.
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10 minutes after the deal went cold my father told me the Yankees signed Cliff Lee and Crawford just to fuck with me

I guess Crawford will go to the Tigers now. Nobody is going to compete with NY for Lee unless Texas opens their wallet.

Wait what? where did you hear this that he will go to Detroit?
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I don't know if they'll do everything to sign him. Detroit will probably pay more. But they could.
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If the Red Sox are willing to shell out the big bucks to sign Crawford, why not go after Cliff Lee instead? To me, it's weird the Red Sox haven't even been mentioned in the "Cliff Lee discussion".
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I think it's assumed they won't be putting cash into starting pitching since they already have quite a rotation.
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Lackey's no sure thing, neither is Matsuzaka. You'd think they'd AT LEAST be "in the mix" for Lee, but that's not the case. Maybe the Red Sox have total confidence that their starters will play up to their standards.

But it's still weird, TO ME, that the Red Sox haven't been linked to Lee this offseason at all.
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Lackey's no sure thing, neither is Matsuzaka. You'd think they'd AT LEAST be "in the mix" for Lee, but that's not the case. Maybe the Red Sox have total confidence that their starters will play up to their standards.

But it's still weird, TO ME, that the Red Sox haven't been linked to Lee this offseason at all.
They do have about 3 sure things with Beckett, Bucholz and Lester. Their major problem last year was hitting and maybe the bullpen. So I say the Red Sox get one more player maybe Crawford. And then trade for a few bullpen arms maybe and the Red Sox would be pretty much all set.

I think Bucholz and Beckett are gonna have a real good season and I'd be surprised if Lester isn't. You guys may need a new closer too. I think it's about time for Paps closer days in Boston to come to an end especially since 2011 is the last year on his contract if I'm not mistaken. You guys do need a stop gap for this Daniel Bard fellow.

I don't pay that much attention to the Red Sox how good is Bard? How close do you think he is to becoming the new closer of the Red Sox?
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Red Sox should get Kerry Wood to set up Papelbon, and if needed (is Papelbon goes through a rough stretch), take over the Closer role.
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I could of sworn that Wood was all ready signed by someone. I thought he may have have signed with a National League team. *Shrugs* Daniel Bard maybe a better guy for the set up role and take over closing sometimes if Paps should fall into a bad stretch.
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I'm not a fan of either but they're bothing making a lot of money. The Red Sox rotation is pretty tied up.
If they hadn't signed Lackey or extended Beckett, they might have gone after Lee.

I still hope they can manage to deal Matsusaka. The Cubs had interest.
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They have Bard for that and if Okajima gets back to pitching like he did in 2007 and 2008, he would become the setup man. Bard just needs to work on lowering the number of critical HRs he gives up before he can officially become their closer.

Beckett is a strange case since he's been very streaky the last few years and usually you can tell if he will be good or bad based on how large his gut is when Spring Training arrives.
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Price also went up for Pujols. Cards are looking to sign an extension with fat Albert. Have a feeling his $$$ price just went up.
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Jays sending Marcum to Brewers

Shaun Marcum(notes) went 13-8 with a 3.64 ERA and 165 strikeouts this past season for the Toronto Blue Jays after taking a year off to recover from Tommy John surgery. It looks like the surgery was successful. Not the kind of guy you want to lose, right?

Well, the word from the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel is that Marcum, who turns 29 next week, is moving back to the States; he's been traded to the Milwaukee Brewers though it's not clear for who. The paper notes that the Blue Jays would like to have second-base prospec Brett Lawrie, who just happens to have been born in Canada, as well as some pitching prospects.

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Also, Jays looking at trading for Zack Greinke.
This is good. They do need a more established pitcher on their team. I wonder what they would ask from the Jays. You think maybe Travis Snider or Ricky Romero might have to be part of the deal?
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Old 12-06-2010, 11:43 AM   #31
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This is good. They do need a more established pitcher on their team. I wonder what they would ask from the Jays. You think maybe Travis Snider or Ricky Romero might have to be part of the deal?
OMG, if all the Jays had to give up was Travis Snider, I would faint.
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OMG, if all the Jays had to give up was Travis Snider, I would faint.
I did say "Part of the deal" this is Grienke we're talking about he's a great pitcher just would work out better on a small market team with his problems.
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Was really hoping Werth would go to a contending team. Don't blame him for cashing in, though.
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Have the Tigers expressed interest in Crawford? Not sure why, but I picture them getting him somehow.
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Have the Tigers expressed interest in Crawford? Not sure why, but I picture them getting him somehow.
It all depends we have about 2 teams maybe even 3 above Baltimore that want Crawford.

1. Red Sox(After not getting Werth I think the Sox are gonna go hard after him.

2. Angels(They're still in the mix right?)

3. Yankees (Right now it's been said that Carl is our "Plan B" If Lee doesn't come here then the Yankees are going hard after Crawford. Now, who knows they could sign both Crawford and Lee. But, we have Gardner The Yankees love Brett Gardner and he's been doing better so it could go either way)
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Pat Gillick's top five moves with the Phillies, according to Todd Zolecki:

1. Signing Jayson Werth.
2. Trading Bobby Abreu.
3. Trading Jim Thome.
4. Trading for Jamie Moyer.
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