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Old 12-05-2010, 07:00 PM   #441
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Old 12-05-2010, 07:11 PM   #442
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But he's making $126 million even if he sucks.

He won't regret making that.
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Old 12-05-2010, 07:15 PM   #443
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Dablack guy lol'ing at Werth. Werth's lol'ing all the way to the bank.
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Old 12-05-2010, 07:21 PM   #444
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Old 12-05-2010, 07:25 PM   #445
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Old 12-05-2010, 07:26 PM   #446
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Dablack guy lol'ing at Werth. Werth's lol'ing all the way to the bank.
Also lol at the chances of 38 year old Werth being able to produce at an 18 million dollar rate

Can't knock the guy, somebody vastly overpaid him and he took the money. Good for him.
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Old 12-05-2010, 07:31 PM   #447
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Also lol at the chances of 38 year old Werth being able to produce at an 18 million dollar rate

Can't knock the guy, somebody vastly overpaid him and he took the money. Good for him.

Thats what my brother always says about Milton Bradley.

But yeah I guess he won't regret it, but if he's any kind of competitor, he will be frustrated a lot.
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Old 12-05-2010, 07:47 PM   #448
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Can't believe the Nationals ponied up the cash for Werth. Scott Boras must have done a pretty good job put that together.

The ball's in Crawford and Lee's court now.
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Old 12-05-2010, 08:14 PM   #449
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Red Sox and Padres decided to make the trade without the extension. I'm sure they'll keep working on it, but A-Gon is now in Boston.
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Old 12-05-2010, 08:25 PM   #450
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Guess it turned out to be a good day for BoSox fans after all.

When Theo and A-Gon return to the table for contract talks, I'd like to be a fly on the wall in that room.
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Old 12-05-2010, 08:42 PM   #452
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What a fucking day. I was so fucking angry. They still need to get a contract in place but at least he's here for next year.
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10 minutes after the deal went cold my father told me the Yankees signed Cliff Lee and Crawford just to fuck with me

I guess Crawford will go to the Tigers now. Nobody is going to compete with NY for Lee unless Texas opens their wallet.
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Jayson Werth to Nationals NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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I love that you have Lackey in there but not Bucholz.
Right, him too.

BTW, to all those going like "LOL at Werth for going to the Nats"...it should be more like "LOL at the Nats for giving Werth all that money, instead of spending it wisely". Werth's fine, he's all right.

...7 years and $126 million...that's a Superstar deal...
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I really thought the Red Sox would get Werth. I guess this means the Red Sox will do whatever it takes to sign Crawford. This is a good thing to me because Cliff did seem like a candidate for Washington. But, now I don't think so. They could have easily given Cliff Lee a 7 year contract but after giving a 7 year contract to Werth it looks like they might be out of the mix.
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I don't know if they'll do everything to sign him. Detroit will probably pay more. But they could.
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That said... I'd rather have Werth than Soriano for the money.
Why?
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Old 12-05-2010, 09:49 PM   #459
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If the Red Sox are willing to shell out the big bucks to sign Crawford, why not go after Cliff Lee instead? To me, it's weird the Red Sox haven't even been mentioned in the "Cliff Lee discussion".
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I think it's assumed they won't be putting cash into starting pitching since they already have quite a rotation.
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Lackey's no sure thing, neither is Matsuzaka. You'd think they'd AT LEAST be "in the mix" for Lee, but that's not the case. Maybe the Red Sox have total confidence that their starters will play up to their standards.

But it's still weird, TO ME, that the Red Sox haven't been linked to Lee this offseason at all.
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I'm not a fan of either but they're bothing making a lot of money. The Red Sox rotation is pretty tied up.
If they hadn't signed Lackey or extended Beckett, they might have gone after Lee.

I still hope they can manage to deal Matsusaka. The Cubs had interest.
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Lackey's no sure thing, neither is Matsuzaka. You'd think they'd AT LEAST be "in the mix" for Lee, but that's not the case. Maybe the Red Sox have total confidence that their starters will play up to their standards.

But it's still weird, TO ME, that the Red Sox haven't been linked to Lee this offseason at all.
They do have about 3 sure things with Beckett, Bucholz and Lester. Their major problem last year was hitting and maybe the bullpen. So I say the Red Sox get one more player maybe Crawford. And then trade for a few bullpen arms maybe and the Red Sox would be pretty much all set.

I think Bucholz and Beckett are gonna have a real good season and I'd be surprised if Lester isn't. You guys may need a new closer too. I think it's about time for Paps closer days in Boston to come to an end especially since 2011 is the last year on his contract if I'm not mistaken. You guys do need a stop gap for this Daniel Bard fellow.

I don't pay that much attention to the Red Sox how good is Bard? How close do you think he is to becoming the new closer of the Red Sox?
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Red Sox should get Kerry Wood to set up Papelbon, and if needed (is Papelbon goes through a rough stretch), take over the Closer role.
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They have Bard for that and if Okajima gets back to pitching like he did in 2007 and 2008, he would become the setup man. Bard just needs to work on lowering the number of critical HRs he gives up before he can officially become their closer.

Beckett is a strange case since he's been very streaky the last few years and usually you can tell if he will be good or bad based on how large his gut is when Spring Training arrives.
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I could of sworn that Wood was all ready signed by someone. I thought he may have have signed with a National League team. *Shrugs* Daniel Bard maybe a better guy for the set up role and take over closing sometimes if Paps should fall into a bad stretch.
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Nope, but the Cubs COULD be interested. Id hope, anyway...I miss him.

Also would love to see the Cubs go for Zack Greinke...but I'd like to see the Cubs go for someone...

We'll probably get Carlos Pena...damnit
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Nope, but the Cubs COULD be interested. Id hope, anyway...I miss him.

Also would love to see the Cubs go for Zack Greinke...but I'd like to see the Cubs go for someone...

We'll probably get Carlos Pena...damnit
The Cubs don't seem to have a real plan, and that sucks, 'cause they are my favorite team. But you just don't see them making moves that make any sense...I don't see them having a clear vision about what kind of a team they want to have, not just in 2011, but in the years ahead. No long term plan. They just seem to sign different players every offseason, and hope that something clicks.
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I could of sworn that Wood was all ready signed by someone. I thought he may have have signed with a National League team. *Shrugs* Daniel Bard maybe a better guy for the set up role and take over closing sometimes if Paps should fall into a bad stretch.
Last I heard Wood was one of the many relievers the Os were looking into but I hope that it doesn't come down to him cause I feel as if it would end up being a disaster.
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10 minutes after the deal went cold my father told me the Yankees signed Cliff Lee and Crawford just to fuck with me

I guess Crawford will go to the Tigers now. Nobody is going to compete with NY for Lee unless Texas opens their wallet.

Wait what? where did you hear this that he will go to Detroit?
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Nope, but the Cubs COULD be interested. Id hope, anyway...I miss him.

Also would love to see the Cubs go for Zack Greinke...but I'd like to see the Cubs go for someone...

We'll probably get Carlos Pena...damnit
They might have some competition Washington is looking for a first baseman as well. And Pena or LaRoche is at the top of their list.
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Price also went up for Pujols. Cards are looking to sign an extension with fat Albert. Have a feeling his $$$ price just went up.
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Jays sending Marcum to Brewers

Shaun Marcum(notes) went 13-8 with a 3.64 ERA and 165 strikeouts this past season for the Toronto Blue Jays after taking a year off to recover from Tommy John surgery. It looks like the surgery was successful. Not the kind of guy you want to lose, right?

Well, the word from the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel is that Marcum, who turns 29 next week, is moving back to the States; he's been traded to the Milwaukee Brewers though it's not clear for who. The paper notes that the Blue Jays would like to have second-base prospec Brett Lawrie, who just happens to have been born in Canada, as well as some pitching prospects.

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Also, Jays looking at trading for Zack Greinke.
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Also, Jays looking at trading for Zack Greinke.
This is good. They do need a more established pitcher on their team. I wonder what they would ask from the Jays. You think maybe Travis Snider or Ricky Romero might have to be part of the deal?
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GM Pat Gillick is elected to the National Baseball Hall of Fame by the Veteran's Committee...

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...Really?
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Good pickup for the Brewers. Marcum pitched well last year, really.
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Droford will be ecstatic to hear the O's got Mark Reynolds and his #1, #2, and #3 records on the single season strikeout list.
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