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Old 05-23-2005, 11:25 PM   #641
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Well, I do have to admit...if the WWE really wants to help out SmackDown, they did a good job tonight with getting people to watch SD more than RAW! After all, anything is better than a HHH-ed RAW.
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Old 05-23-2005, 11:33 PM   #642
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well they can still turn him later on. I mean he could be like the most awesome manager ever. although I don't know bout seein him as a manager.
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Old 05-23-2005, 11:43 PM   #643
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well they can still turn him later on. I mean he could be like the most awesome manager ever. although I don't know bout seein him as a manager.
But how long can they keep teasing us before we just don't CARE anymore? By the time they DO, for real, turn him, we'll be too tired of it all to CARE if he does or not.
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Old 05-23-2005, 11:47 PM   #644
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I was tired of the "Ric Flair turning face only to turn on that person he befriended weeks later" back in 1994.
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Old 05-23-2005, 11:52 PM   #645
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I agree it has been rather repetitive for the past some odd years. one day, one day they will finally do it. Hopefully they will do it sooner than later. most likely at Bad Blood.
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Old 05-23-2005, 11:59 PM   #646
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I agree it has been rather repetitive for the past some odd years. one day, one day they will finally do it. Hopefully they will do it sooner than later. most likely at Bad Blood.
ACK! You didn't hear the news...no Bad Blood this year. Next RAW PPV is Vengeance...at least that what I was thought of hearing.
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Old 05-24-2005, 12:03 AM   #647
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oh yeah whatever the Raw PPV is gonna be
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Old 05-24-2005, 01:58 AM   #649
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that was like the 50th time we thought flair would turn face only to re-join triple h
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Old 05-24-2005, 02:02 AM   #650
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K, I'll try to count how many turns Flair did since he came in late 2001

first time he joined the nWo

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then he turned on RVD

then he turned on HBK

then he turned on Mayor McCheese

then he turned on Batista
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Old 05-24-2005, 02:04 AM   #651
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at this rate he will be turning on me next week

dammit flair

also, the ending was pretty good imo, i just wish triple h would shave

hell in a cell will have to be the feud ender for hhh-batista, and if batista wins that will be great for his credibility... so stop hating on everything triple h does
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he needs a full beard. that handlebar moustache thing looks gay and funny ona top heel
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Old 05-24-2005, 09:04 AM   #653
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Wasn't Cactus Jack in WCW before ECW? Steve Austin made a name in WCW before going to ECW. I'm sure Benoit was on a WCW ppv in the early 90's as a jobber before going to ECW(I have to check). Liger/Pillman was doing cruiserweight styles matches in WCW before ECW existed.

Talk about a one sided segment. WCW was a better company than ECW. I'm surprise that people always say ECW was better but like Lawler said "Extreme Crappy Wrestling". People always talked about the good cruiserweight/technical matches ECW had but that was only like for one year. The other 7 years was nothing but garbage cans. Even Steve Austin said ECW suck.
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Old 05-24-2005, 09:31 AM   #654
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What's wrong with hard-core wrestling? Seeing it live fucking owns.
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Old 05-24-2005, 09:39 AM   #655
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Wasn't Cactus Jack in WCW before ECW? Steve Austin made a name in WCW before going to ECW. I'm sure Benoit was on a WCW ppv in the early 90's as a jobber before going to ECW(I have to check). Liger/Pillman was doing cruiserweight styles matches in WCW before ECW existed.

Talk about a one sided segment. WCW was a better company than ECW. I'm surprise that people always say ECW was better but like Lawler said "Extreme Crappy Wrestling". People always talked about the good cruiserweight/technical matches ECW had but that was only like for one year. The other 7 years was nothing but garbage cans. Even Steve Austin said ECW suck.
Talk about one sided

Yeah ECW had their fair share of garbage cans, flaming tables and stuff but their period of time for technical matches and aesome cruiserweights lasted more than just a year. They had their Benoit, Dean Malenko, Saturn, Rey, Psichosis. Then they also picked up a new breed as well. Jerry Lynn, Lance Storm, and others. Open your eyes kid. You talkin bout thmem bein one sided, you doin the exact same thing you claim they were doing. Besides if it was all nothing but garbage can wrestling then why in the world would any of them have been signed elsewhere? Why would anyone care about any of them? The Lance Storm? The RVD? The Jerry Lynn? The others? Cause they were good. They knew how to work the crowd. They knew a lot more than jsut hit guy with garbage can.

So don't dog what you not totally sure about.
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Old 05-24-2005, 09:47 AM   #656
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Benoit wrestle on Superbrawl 3. Heyman did not bring in Benoit.

WCW help out ECW alot. Who send their talents to ECW shows in the early 90's? Vince...no it was WCW.

The ring was missing one person, Todd Gordon. He was a huge part of ECW early success. In matter of fact, when he left(or force out) ECW the company was beginning to suck and fill with nothing but hardcore matches. Maybe ECW would still be in business if Tod Gordon was there.
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Old 05-24-2005, 01:21 PM   #657
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You see the sign? "ECW Sucks, get over it"

Still. I was marking out on the Heyman promo and I didn't even watch ECW. Heyman is a promoing GOD.

However it kinda defeats the purpose of him coming out there and saying "ECW was about more than weapons" and then have Bentoit and Tajiri come out there and fight in an ECW Rules match in which the main focus was on the weapons.

Oh and... dammit I'm sick and tired of the phony Flair turns.
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Christ, I think that ECW funeral segment was the longest RAW has gone without a commercial break.
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I had to tape RAW, and it was a damn good one......until the end. How many times can they tease a Flair face turn and ruin it??? This is getting ridiculous. So when they finally do turn Flair face, no one is gonna care b/c they think he's gonna turn heel right away again. And we also had the typical HHH beatdown.

But aside from that, it was a good RAW. The Edge/Lita segment was almost too much. It just seemed as if they were talking to Matt the whole time. Comments like "I've been seeing him behind your back for the last few months", and the "Edge is the only man to satisfy me". I hope Matt wasn't watching RAW, or he would have been pissed.

The ECW funeral was really cool segment. There seemed to be alot of shoot comments during it. Then having Bischoff(WCW), Heyman(ECW), and Vince(WWE) all in the same ring together seemed surreal. Can't wait for the ECW ppv now.

Maria was looking as always. And I was actually glad that Coach ruined that segment since I didn't care to see Big Vis with his pants down.

But overall a quality RAW besides the finish.
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Christ, I think that ECW funeral segment was the longest RAW has gone without a commercial break.
I didn't time it, but that had to be up there with the "This is your life" segment with Foley and Rock in '99 for longest segments.
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Wasn't Cactus Jack in WCW before ECW? Steve Austin made a name in WCW before going to ECW. I'm sure Benoit was on a WCW ppv in the early 90's as a jobber before going to ECW(I have to check). Liger/Pillman was doing cruiserweight styles matches in WCW before ECW existed.

Talk about a one sided segment. WCW was a better company than ECW. I'm surprise that people always say ECW was better but like Lawler said "Extreme Crappy Wrestling". People always talked about the good cruiserweight/technical matches ECW had but that was only like for one year. The other 7 years was nothing but garbage cans. Even Steve Austin said ECW suck.
hardly. What about the amazing three way dances towards the end between super crazy, Tajiri and Little Guido. Dude, did you actually watch ECW?
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I didn't time it, but that had to be up there with the "This is your life" segment with Foley and Rock in '99 for longest segments.
It was worth it. Paul Heyman sold One Night Stand to a lot of people.
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Damn it, I just realised. There's a pretty good chance Triple H will be champion AGAIN. He's undefeated in Hell in a Cell, do they really want to ende his legacy in HIAC matches? And surely Batista won't go over Triple H for a third time? I dunno, it all looks gloomy for Batista right now if you ask me.
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I thought Batista vs. Edge was a great match for many reasons. One I thought that Edge and Xtian could be the next top heels on RAW, Batista was getting huge pops, both of them looked good in the match, and Flair came out to help Batista clean house. I was really happy with the way RAW was going.

Then I heard the infamous guitar chord and out came HHH, and then fucking Flair low-blowed Batista, and just like that, HHH made the top tier guy look weak AGAIN. Not only is HHH on top again (with or without the title), but there goes any chance of Edge and Xtian being top heels, and a potential HHH vs. Flair match in the near future.
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HHH lost that 6 man armageddon HIAC in 2000

But Maria in that ring was sort of really irritating to me. I mean she just jiddered and I was like Stop moving. Stand still for a second. Other than that she looked pretty darn good.
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Triple H will win the World Title for the 17th time, making his reign supreme, only to be beaten by Ric Flair, finalizing his big face turn, who will tie him for 17 reigns a piece.

They will then face each other on PPV, in which HHH will win the World Title back, marking his 18th World Title victory, making him the most dominant World Champion of all time.

Then Flair will turn heel again.
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I think he'll get over 18
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Triple H won't ever stop winnin the world title unti he reaches 21 title reigns
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HHH's world title reigns have to actually MEAN something to even be compared to Flair's.
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