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Old 11-30-2010, 09:42 AM   #41
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He is a beast. I don't know if its the camera angle or if he is legitimately ducking from the ceiling. But aside from that.

I don't know if anyone agrees or has this train of thought, but doesn't it demean the NXT rookies if they go through this program with their pro, the tasks, events etc. just to have WWE debut another FCW talent on the main roster?

Hypothetically speaking, if they go with this Mason Ryan or another talent, doesn't it say "yeah you 6 on NXT are good and all, but he's way better"

I'm kind of rambling because I'm tired and at work, but yeah.
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Old 11-30-2010, 07:23 PM   #42
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The format won't work to establish some guys. If they wanna put a guy like Mason Ryan over as a monster, NXT is a difficult place to do it (as they spend most of their time doing stupid games).
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Not to my knowledge. He's Ryan O'Reilly (far better name, although I'd want to see his kayfabe brother, "Cyril" called up at some point), who was at one point signed to a WWE development deal, but he and his girlfriend walked from the company just after she debuted on WWE television. It was a shame, too, because she was quite hot.
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The line-up for nXt season 4 -

* Alberto Del Rio is paired with Conor O'Brian (i c wut u did there)

* Chris Masters is paired with Byron Saxton

* Daniel Bryan is paired with Derrick Bateman

* R-Truth is paired with Johnny Curtis

* Ted DiBiase is paired with Brodius Clay.



It was rumoured that Michael Cole was going to be the pro for Seth 'Tyler Black' Rollins. The idea was pulled in the afternoon then Black posted on his Twitter - "Today is just one of those days where I hate everything and everyone."
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Hmmm.. Source? It's right so far in that there are 5 rookies and R-Truth mentors Johnny Curtis.
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Old 11-30-2010, 10:11 PM   #46
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Lol. Chris Masters as a pro of a guy who was an announcer at one point? Oh lord season 4 is going to be terrible.
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Old 11-30-2010, 10:49 PM   #47
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Ok so an overall good bunch, but I would have rather had 8 including Hunico and Richie for some variety.
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It was rumoured that Michael Cole was going to be the pro for Seth 'Tyler Black' Rollins. The idea was pulled in the afternoon then Black posted on his Twitter - "Today is just one of those days where I hate everything and everyone."
The reports of Seth Rollins (Tyler Black) being upset are false as he reported on his twitter this morning. The original tweet was a re-tweet from Xavier Woods that has since been deleted.

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I just watched FCW from last week and they have Saxton in a feud with Abe Washington.They were the commentary team and have since begun wrestling and have both been hitting the gym. Saxton has been doing really good promo work.They also have two batistas,two Mcintyres,and Brodius Clay is husky-er then Husky is.Ritchie Steamboat is looking like a future star.Oh yea!...Percy Watson is down there too.lol
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Yeah, I've heard that Byron Saxton has been doing phenomenal work down in FCW. Personally, I wish they'd call him up as a male manager, and let him grow into a great worker in his own time; but saw him in the ring recently and he truthfully didn't look too bad.

I love the way the WWE has saved some big hits for later. Seth Rollins, Xavier Woods, Richie Steamboat, Peter Orlov (Alex Koslov, motherfuckers) and even Wes Brisco could be great for later seasons.
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I'm interested in all 6 rookies in one way or another.

Derrick Bateman definitely won me over with his promo and use of the word "mantastic". Giving him Daniel Bryan as a pro only adds to it.
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I'm yet to see NXT this week, but Derrick Bateman has always been a guy I've wanted to see succeed. I don't even know why. Him being paired with Daniel Bryan is definitely a good thing.

Here is what I hope from the Pro/rookie relationships:

Alberto Del Rio & Conor O'Brian
Del Rio is nothing but a selfish character. He should be using Conor solely as a tool to his own success. O'Brian should be wary of that, but want to learn from Del Rio's vast experience and skill-set. I'm not sure how healthy or unhealthy Rey is at the moment, but if he needs to take time off, it would be a great way to get heat for O'Brian by having him take out Rey. I wouldn't be opposed to seeing O'Brian work some SmackDown! events under the pay of Del Rio.

Chris Masters & Byron Saxton
Saxton's mic skills will carry this combo. Masters has gotten a lot better in the ring, but besides maybe his one tag team win every now and then, people don't really invest much in him. Saxton should put over his Pro, by mentioning that he has headlined PPVs and competed against great former Superstars like Shawn Michaels, Triple H and John Cena. It can become apparent that Saxton is sucking up to Masters, but as I believe his strengths may be as a heel, I don't see a problem with Saxton eventually stepping over Masters to benefit himself -- perhaps even leading to a feud between the two on SmackDown!.

Daniel Bryan & Derrick Bateman
I think this will be my favourite pairing. I'm not quite sure how Bateman is in the ring, but Bryan can work for three men or more, and their interactions should be quite amusing. I'd love it if Bryan set Bateman tasks like facing his old mentor, William Regal, and stuff like that. I think Bateman has the potential to get the most over.

Dolph Ziggler & Jacob Novak
I don't know much about Novak, but then again, I didn't know much about Wade Barrett when he showed up, either. Being paired with Ziggler will help him, and I hope we get to see Novak involved on SmackDown!. Have Novak help Ziggler retain the IC Title, and then have whoever he helps Ziggler against beat him in a match. Novak could get quite over as a lackey this way. It'd also be interesting to see a guy play against the heel status of his mentor. Or see Novak try and seduce Vickie Guerrero out from under Ziggler. So many possibilities. Seeing the Bryan/Ziggler rivalry revived and passed onto their rookies could be a great story for NXT 4, too.

R-Truth & Johnny Curtis
A few things interest me about Curtis: He's been wrestling for eleven years. He was trained by Killer Kowalski. He's been with the WWE in developmental for four years, crossed over from DSW to FCW and has survived all the talent cuts. Also, he's being allowed to use what is essentially his real name. Since he seemingly bills himself from being from Maine, and R-Truth is his mentor -- I hope they're not going to try and turn this guy into another Scotty 2 Hotty. I haven't seen his NXT promo yet. Let him be serious, and learn from R-Truth how to have fun, while Curtis wants to remain serious. Truth can also have wounds from his old rookie, David Otunga. Perhaps Curtis joining the Nexus after this season could confirm R-Truth's fears?

Ted DiBiase & Brodus Clay
I'm not too sure if Clay is any good. He's a second generation star or something, isn't he? His pairing with DiBiase makes sense, though. It adds a needed something to DiBiase, and it gets Maryse on NXT (nice) and Clay can graduate into an awesome bodyguard for DiBiase, if nothing else.
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Old 12-01-2010, 10:04 PM   #55
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After viewing the intro promos, I gotta say Bateman and Curtis are my two favorites.
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Looks like we get the good ol Bryan vs Cole storyline again. More fun ahead!
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I hope they add CM Punk to the commentary team. Just throwing that out there. Also, I hope Ashley Valence does the ring announcing naked.

How I would book the first week of NXT 4:

* The Pros all introduce their rookies. They all get to say what they think about their Pros. Matt Striker informs them that they will be having two Triple Threat Matches tonight -- one involving the guys with RAW Pros, and one involving the guys with SmackDown! Pros. The winners will then face off in the main event, with the winner getting a point towards immunity.

* Johnny Curtis defeats Derrick Bateman and Brodus Clay in a Triple Threat Match. Curtis & Bateman work together, as Mathews remarks they used to be a tag team early in their careers. Michael Cole says this is a singles competition, and basically gets on both guys for working together. Clay gets to look good by suplexing them each a few times, and maybe even a spot where he suplexes both. Curtis and Bateman hit some nifty double-team moves to keep Clay out. Eventually, Clay knocks Curtis out of the ring and looks to finish off Bateman. Curtis enters with a steel chair and slams it into Clay's back a few times and pins him after a DDT onto the steel chair for the win.

What this accomplishes: Johnny Curtis gets a win moving forward, in a way that protects his opponents. It also plays into his "loose cannon" gimmick. Brodus Clay gets to look like a beast, and Bateman can have his shining moments and doesn't take the fall.

* Matt Striker asks the rookies' Pros what they thought of the match. R-Truth says that Johnny Curtis proved that he is resourceful, but wants to know if he can beat someone without using a weapon. Daniel Bryan said that his rookie showed guys, and that he didn't win his first NXT match, either. Ted DiBiase says that there should be disqualifications in Triple Threat Matches, and Johnny Curtis should not be going forward into the finals.

* We get a hype video for Brodus Clay (the first rookie alphabetically).

* CM Punk, Josh Mathews & Michael Cole give their early predictions about who they think will win. Cole predicts Conor O'Brian, because he has the best Pro. CM Punk goes with Derrick Bateman, because Daniel Bryan is the best mentor to have. Cole and Punk get into it about that. Josh Mathews says that he wants to see his old broadcast partner, Byron Saxton get the win and not forget his humble ECW roots.

* The Miz is shown backstage talking about this season of NXT 4, with his predictions being wanted. He expects the winner to not be as stupid as Kaval and actually challenge for the WWE Title, but none of the rookies are going to be any good because he is not a Pro this season. The best thing to ever come from NXT was Alex Riley, and that Daniel Bryan has no business being a Pro on this show. He predicts that Conor O'Brian will win, because Alberto Del Rio is the best Pro in the bunch.

What this accomplishes: These segments put over some of the NXT guys more, allows for some fun banter between the commentators, and gets The Miz on NXT. It positions the fans in certain ways, which is what the WWE loves in these worked competitions (and pretty much why Kaitlyn won NXT 3).

* Conor O'Brian wins the second Triple Threat, beating Byron Saxton and Jacob Novak. O'Brian gets the pin with an F-5 on Novak. Why not bust out that move? Basically a standard Triple Threat.

What this accomplishes: Conor O'Brian gets out the gate first. He doesn't have the most out-there personality, and a guy his size relies on credibility. He's a menacing threat for Johnny Curtis in the main event, and it allows Alberto Del Rio to gloat about his rookie. Saxton & Novak can bounce back.

* A video airs on Byron Saxton.

* Chris Jericho has a taped segment aired (I wish), that has him talking about which Pro he thinks will win. He says that Daniel Bryan earned his respect in their first outing, and he really thinks that he has what it takes to crown a winner -- that being Derrick Bateman.

* R-Truth is shown talking to Johnny Curtis backstage. He tells Curtis to go out there and prove he is by far the best rookie on NXT. Curtis says he is the best. R-Truth brings up David Otunga and says that Curtis better know his place in the WWE.

What this accomplishes: The Chris Jericho bit is a reach, but his input would be worth something as the man who took Wade Barrett on in the first season. We also get to know more about Saxton, and personal issues begin to pop-up between R-Truth and his rookie this season based on what went down with the Nexus.

* In the main event, Conor O'Brian defeats Johnny Curtis with his Roof Top Drop (Full Nelson Slam) to go 2-0 on NXT and score on immunity point. He and Alberto Del Rio celebrate, as R-Truth looks a little discouraged.

What this accomplishes: Conor O'Brian gets out the gate strong, with perhaps the most loathed Pro in the contest (oh, besides Vickie Guerrero). O'Brian is going to need credibility to work, in my opinion. Curtis gets to look heroic by facing two big men that night.
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Old 12-02-2010, 03:01 AM   #59
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I think I would make a descision to make the pros more interested in getting their rookies to win NXT.

I would offer the same prize that the winner of the season gets to the pro himself. If the rookie wins NXT then they both receive a future championship opportunity on pay per view. They could book it like that so they can cash their shots in together in a triple threat match against the champion. They can then tease that they will work together to get the pro the championship or the other way around.

It either blows up in their face or one of them becomes the heavyweight champion of Raw or Smackdown. I think it would be a good way to make sure that the wrestlers are actually trying their best to help out their rookie. It will be a kayfabe way to make the pros more accountable for their rookies future and how it will benefit them in the future. The way I see it NXT seems to be 50 percent audience approval, so a pro could make it way into a PPV main event the popularity of his rookie.

I would also try getting NXT back on television or at least as a replay on Universal HD.
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Am I the only one who really wanted to see Cole be Seth Rollins' pro? It would build a great rivalry between Cole and Daniel Bryan and then you throw Rollins in there saying they were friends from the Indy days.
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Tyler Black as a rookie can be the successor to Daniel Bryan/Kaval.
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