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Old 03-16-2011, 08:30 PM   #41
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And Masters doesn't suck, he usually has the best match on Superstars (for what that's worth ).
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Old 03-16-2011, 08:48 PM   #42
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I stand corrected.

He has improved a little but he's still pretty terrible IMO.
To be fair, Masters had his fanbase back when he was big, too.

Granted, it was from the "I will force myself to love everything about wrestling, dammit!" crowd instead of the "he has four fans? He's overrated." Crowd.

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Masters is a bad example but yeah I see your point. But guys like Santino, Ryder, Bourne, and Tatsu seem like generally likable people with a decent amount of talent. Nothing wrong with rooting for someone like that to succeed.

Of course there's also something to be said about people wanting to become a fan of someone before it's cool to like them. I dunno. Fuck it.
And there's something to be said about the fact that it spreads well beyond those four as well.

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So this is is what the millionth iteration of the IWC sucks thread?
I don't see you not making threads in discussion just because they've been done before. Don't be a fucktard, Lara.
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Old 03-16-2011, 08:49 PM   #43
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Oh, and was Hassan really a jobber? The dude was in some high profile feuds until he got fired over controversy. It's not like people were latching on to a guy wrestling dark matches.
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Old 03-16-2011, 08:53 PM   #44
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Yea, really. I think the same can be said about a lot of these supposed darlings
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Old 03-16-2011, 08:59 PM   #45
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The REAL reason for all this is that wrestling fans, alot of 'em, are STUPID.

They'll bitch and moan about wanting something to get done, such as bring in a particular wrestler, or having a particular guy be pushed, and as soon as they "get their wish", so to speak, they'll criticize the company for doing whatever they (the fans) asked for in the first place, or they'll turn on the guy they wanted to see get a push in the first place.

Fans bitched and moaned FOR YEARS about wanting to see Bret Hart back in the WWE. Last year, Bret came back, and what did we read and hear? "Bret looks old", "Bret can't walk", "Bret looks like Ozzy Osbourne", "He's a sell-out", and all sorts of garbage.

Also, FOR YEARS fans wanted to see The Rock back in WWE. Now he's back, and what are we reading and hearing? "He's not funny anymore", "He just says the same things over and over", "He's back but he'll surely leave us again", etc.

And we see it alot with guys who fans go like, "He should be Champion", and as soon as WWE gives them the belt, fans will boo the guy and cheer for whoever is facing him, in hopes of him losing the title.

You just CAN'T please the fans. It's "damned if you do, damned if you don't".
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Old 03-16-2011, 09:01 PM   #46
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It won't be long before Miz is turned face and pushed as the top guy, and his current fans start to view him like Cena.
Just like Cena in 2005.
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Mofo is more talking about low card wrestlers (those under the midcard) than "jobbers". Jobbers, by my definition at least, are the enhancement talents that almost always lose and almost never have much to do angle or storyline-wise. The low carders get TV time and storylines, even if they are far and few between or just on Superstars.
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Yeah, Xero's right...

...THESE are "jobbers":
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Old 03-16-2011, 11:57 PM   #50
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Yea, really. I think the same can be said about a lot of these supposed darlings
I know. most people are working programs with Undertaker before they're terminated due to controversy.
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Old 03-17-2011, 12:01 AM   #51
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It won't be long before Miz is turned face and pushed as the top guy, and his current fans start to view him like Cena.
Just like Cena in 2005.
I'm not sure how I feel about this. On the one hand, Miz is still shite and likely only has appeal because of the same 2-D heel fetish that gets most "bad guys" over, so I'm not sure I feel bad about the IWC turning on him based solely on the fact that he's now actually made it.

On the other, Miz is already enough of a deterrent in terms of me watchign wrestling. I'm not sure fanboys hating him is worth further devaluing my interest in WWE.
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