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Old 08-02-2005, 07:00 PM   #41
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botching a shooting star press takes HELLA-tallent
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Lesnar update: negotiations break down

After verbally agreeing to terms with WWE, Brock Lesnar has decided to withdraw from any involvement with the company.

Check back here for more on this developing story.
Check back for more?

Legit announcements on releases and such don't USUALLY carry that line at the end.
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Old 08-02-2005, 07:06 PM   #43
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At least he didn't botch walking to the ring. You're going to compare a guy who botched a single high profile spot to a guy who jobs at his own entrance, and ask the diff?

Fucking moron.
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botching a shooting star press takes HELLA-tallent

Everyone botches something you stupid faggot.

Now go smoke Vince.
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Old 08-02-2005, 07:08 PM   #45
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Besides, the SSP isn't exactly the easiest thing to do. CWs who use it regularly still screw up.
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Billy Kidman for instance.

and some other guy, i forgot his name.
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And you didn't hear how sweaty those ropes were that night?
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what is the difference between brock and glodberg? they both were handed the world and asked "is this all"? both were given awesome gimmics from the start. both said the wwe was the worst career move ever. both walked out of the sport thinking they were bigger than wrestling. fans boo goldberg but want brock back. WTF? don't say brett hart is the reason because he and goldberg are friends now.
There's a huge difference on all counts.

First, Goldberg was right about the WWE being a mistake. They turned him into a glorified jobber. Depending on what you read, this happened because of his shit attitiude backstage or because he couldn't work a 'WWE style.' But whatever. He has said several times he would go back into wrestling,just not for the WWE. The shoot comments he made on Trips alone almost makes me like him. Almost. Brock was tired of the entire industry of wrestling and called it a joke. On this point, i can see why fans hate him.

Secondly, brock Lesnar was way ahead of Goldberg in the ring. GB just had not improved much in his five plus years in the ring, where Lesnar was a legit wrestler who was good, especially if you consider how green he still was. Based on his amateur background alone, the best years of Brock were still ti come.

Finally, I think your whole oint is invalid because the fans want Lesnar back, but there's a huge group of fans that want Goldberg back, too. He's still bankable. And if some upstart fed like TNA signed him to a contract he would immediately becomethe biggest draw outside the WWE.
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whats with the name calling? do you LIKE-him like him? calm down kk, you'll live longer. I laughed my ass off when goldberg fell after the sparks. kane slipped off the top turnbuckle that night too.lol I was like WTF? everyone kept falling down
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And it boggles the mind that so many net fans wnat to suck Charlies Haas' balls,and cried when he was released, but saythings like 'Lesnar sucks,''He has no talent,' or 'He's just a brawler' when Lesnar was three times the amateur Haas was. Charlies was an All-American, sure, but Brock was legitimately one of the most successful amateur wrestlers in American history.

He was still very green and put in long feuds with Show, UT, and Bobcore. And its Brock's fault he didn't carry those three to five star matches???
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Old 08-02-2005, 07:24 PM   #54
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what I think is a riot is people who say "____can REALLY wrestle". in wwe it means SHIT! unless its k-1 who cares about amature background. nobody in wwe "REALLY" wrestles.
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how old are you jalapeno? 11, 12?
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And it boggles the mind that so many net fans wnat to suck Charlies Haas' balls,and cried when he was released, but saythings like 'Lesnar sucks,''He has no talent,' or 'He's just a brawler' when Lesnar was three times the amateur Haas was. Charlies was an All-American, sure, but Brock was legitimately one of the most successful amateur wrestlers in American history.

He was still very green and put in long feuds with Show, UT, and Bobcore. And its Brock's fault he didn't carry those three to five star matches???
Possibly because those fans remember that Brock walked out on the business and badmouthed it, wheras Haas still seems like a nice guy who loves the business and didn't deserve to be fired.

I can see it both ways really.

At this moment, and I've said this before, I'm willing to give him another chance, if he's changed. If he thinks he can or will waltz back in and get the royal treatment again, then screw that. But if he's been humbled and he honestly wants to invest himself in this business again, hey, why not?
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Old 08-02-2005, 07:25 PM   #57
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I'm 16. Now get off my dick.
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what I think is a riot is people who say "____can REALLY wrestle". in wwe it means SHIT! unless its k-1 who cares about amature background. nobody in wwe "REALLY" wrestles.
Who said it meant anything? Are you fucking retarded or something?

It's called an OPINION.
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what I think is a riot is people who say "____can REALLY wrestle". in wwe it means SHIT! unless its k-1 who cares about amature background. nobody in wwe "REALLY" wrestles.
I suppose the mat wrestling that people like Benoit, Angle, and Shelton Benjamin, not to mention Shawn Michaels and Stone Cold (on occassion) isn't "really" wrestling...
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LOL at one n00b calling an idiot "pandejo" WATCH YOUR FUCKING LANGUAGE!!!!!!
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I'm 16. Now get off my dick.
you have not said one thing that didn't involve homosexuality or your privates and yet YOU call people gay.
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Old 08-02-2005, 07:31 PM   #62
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whats with the name calling? do you LIKE-him like him? calm down kk, you'll live longer. I laughed my ass off when goldberg fell after the sparks. kane slipped off the top turnbuckle that night too.lol I was like WTF? everyone kept falling down
It's funny, the fag is asking me if I'm hot for Brock.

Here's an idea. Don't be a retard, you won't get called a retard.
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Old 08-02-2005, 07:32 PM   #63
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And it boggles the mind that so many net fans wnat to suck Charlies Haas' balls,and cried when he was released, but saythings like 'Lesnar sucks,''He has no talent,' or 'He's just a brawler' when Lesnar was three times the amateur Haas was. Charlies was an All-American, sure, but Brock was legitimately one of the most successful amateur wrestlers in American history.

He was still very green and put in long feuds with Show, UT, and Bobcore. And its Brock's fault he didn't carry those three to five star matches???
Yeah, just like Batista's to blame for the sub par matches with Batista.
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this fag has had more pussy than you will ever even dream of. I asked a question and im called a cocksmoker....hummmm a simple question. thats a little weird isn't it?
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WHAT???

WHAT???

WHAT???

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what I think is a riot is people who say "____can REALLY wrestle". in wwe it means SHIT! unless its k-1 who cares about amature background. nobody in wwe "REALLY" wrestles.
Your comparison betwen Brock and Goldberg was invalid. And this statement is a little ignorant. Because a solid amateur background almost always means that the performer is going to put on better matches. We all know its "not real" but there's a corollary once they step in the ring. Wrestling is wrestling.
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Yeah, just like Batista's to blame for the sub par matches with Batista.
I sound like a retard? when did batista wrestle himself. can you pm me the match? that would be awesome
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this fag has had more pussy than you will ever even dream of. I asked a question and im called a cocksmoker....hummmm a simple question. thats a little weird isn't it?
You asked why one guy, a wreckless bastard, isn't the same as another, with a lot of talent.

There are no stupid questions, just stupid people.

Besides, raping male cats doesn't count as pussy.
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I sound like a retard? when did batista wrestle himself. can you pm me the match? that would be awesome
Uhoh. I made a typo.

That certainly gives you the high ground, when you're making stupid comments...



Seriously. You want to criticise my spelling next? Stooping pretty low, boy.
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Seriously. You've got to bring up the ONE notable botch when trying to prove that Brock's not more talented than Goldberg, and the best you can do to "Show me up" is to point out that I typed Batista a second time instead of JBL?

I feel bad for you.
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Your comparison betwen Brock and Goldberg was invalid. And this statement is a little ignorant. Because a solid amateur background almost always means that the performer is going to put on better matches. We all know its "not real" but there's a corollary once they step in the ring. Wrestling is wrestling.
And good wrestlers tend to put on good matches. Hard to believe, but true.
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I asked a question, thats all and everybody jumped on me for it. the things I said in my question were true and accurate. I just don't understand I personally liked brock and goldberg. after wm xx we all knew neither man could call a match. I didn't want to go to war over it.
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I agree that he should have handled the way that he left much differently. However, he is soemthing that the WWE needs right now - A guy who is a draw that makes people think "OK, this guy whether he is heel or face can be a World Champion".

But that is where the problem lies I think. He doesn't deserve to go straight back into the Title picture if he does rejoin. However, his return would be so hyped up and huge - Is there any way of toning it down to mid-card stuff?
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I asked a question, thats all and everybody jumped on me for it. the things I said in my question were true and accurate. I just don't understand I personally liked brock and goldberg. after wm xx we all knew neither man could call a match. I didn't want to go to war over it.
I wasn't trying to jump on your case. But I don't think it was a valid comparison. Or, at least, it was overly-simplified. If you were trying to compare Goldberg to Brock in order to defend Goldberg, then you're mistaken. First, like I said, Goldberg actually had much better, much smarter reasons for leaving the WWE, while Brock was being a jack-ass.

But Brock is better in the ring. He is. I don't think this is even a discussion. I don't care if you say "Well, he was carried," Brock Lesnar was in an Iron Man match with Kurt Angle. He had strong matches with both members of the WGTT. His matches with John Cena were so underrated, they're probably over-rated by now. And his matches with Big Show were watchable. And its the Big Show. Basically, in his shotened run on SD, he put on more quality matches than Godberg has in his entire career.

I don't like Bill as a person or in the ring; that being said I do know that he's the one guy that is enough of a draw to legitimize an upstart promotion. And he's gone out of his way to try to mend fences with people he used to have heat with.

Basically, if you're trying to say that anyone who wants Lesnar back should want GB back, then you're mistaken. Two different cases. Lesnar is an asshole who puts on decent matches who will still probably act like an asshole. Whereas Bill was an asshole who put on lousy matches but is a huge draw and seems to have mellowed out in his old age.
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It's all been a swerve. Brock Lesnar is code for Kevin Nash. Therefor, Nash will show up at Summerslam, attack Batista, and break his leg leaving the arena.
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I asked a question, thats all and everybody jumped on me for it. the things I said in my question were true and accurate. I just don't understand I personally liked brock and goldberg. after wm xx we all knew neither man could call a match. I didn't want to go to war over it.
Sorry, when you over simplify an issue, even simplifying Brock's botch to Goldberg's recklessness, you are asking a very STUPID question.

What was going through your mind that would make you think these two were a valid comparison, or that being an unsafe worker and botching a single spot (Unless you'd like to name a LOT more) were close enough to count?
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It's all been a swerve. Brock Lesnar is code for Kevin Nash. Therefor, Nash will show up at Summerslam, attack Batista, and break his leg leaving the arena.
I think he would break his quad coming out of the curtain TRYING to attack Batista.
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