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The problem with Cryme Tyme is that they are awful in the ring. JTG and Shad Gaspard should really still be in OVW. Actually, DSW has the better teams, so a move over there would have done them some good.
Triple H and Shawn Michaels just aren't funny. They are trying too hard, their jokes are something that 12 year olds would be heard rattling off. OK, we get it! A rooster can be called a "cock". A "cock" is also a nickname given to a penis. You didn't need to put it on a shirt. I'm sure the people that originally came up with using "cock" as a slang for penis didn't make that bigger deal about it. Edge and Randy Orton winning the World Tag Team Championship is good, as people might care about the belts now they're on main eventers, again. The Intercontinental Championship changes are somewhat interesting, but a little redundant. They should bring in Joey Mercury to feud with Johnny Nitro over the Title. John Cena is not the best thing going for the WWE right now. To paraphrase a line from Scrubs, John Cena's "like the guy who goes to a garage sale, buys a bronze medal without having served, and gets everyone to call him Sarge. And newbie, nobody likes that guy". He moves like a retard in the ring, he's just not charismatic enough to be in the position he currently is. He's feuding with Umaga, who is just a stupid character. Thank God the WWE still has SmackDown!... |
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![]() I thought the fact that he tried to attack their two biggest faces was probably a heelish thing to do? Remember there is still some consistency in WWE. While he may now be a heel, he is also still retarded and they can't exactly have him come out and act like Edge, can they? Hacksaw probably wasn't available to come over to the UK or something so they decided to have him go against their top two faces for a segment. Don't worry, you'll get your Eugene heel feud next week ![]() |
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As for the starter of this thread, you're basically saying that just cause you're liking raw then everybody else must. Well get this mate, you can't please everyone. Especially when most of the card just sems like a bunch of filler matches and reminds me every week why the roster split needs to end. |
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JV - are you crazy? Raw has been fucking piss poor recently. I don't even want to imagine what it would be like this whole year without Cena and Edge.
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^ Didn't even think about how bad it would've been without them two, i mean, their feud wasn't exactly entertaining, but Raw would've looked worse overall without them.
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The real problem isn't that they can't please everyone, it's that they can't please anyone. In the course of 2-3 months, they've lost nearly one fucking million people. Again, one of the main reasons I mocked Vegas. This shit is fucking idiotic. There is no defense for Raw right now, none at all. Losing .8 points is serious shit, as it's around a million people (Depending on the slot, 1 point can mean as much as 3.6 million, IIRC the peaks), maybe more. (Editor's note: Raw has lost well over a million viewers, bordering on two, since July. So it's the last 4 months, but it's well over a million viewers. More recently, their shows have dumped at least half a million people in FOUR WEEKS) Vegas' argument is bordering on MAKE IT OR BREAK IT's "bad apples" conspiracy theory. It's good, it's just so many people are hating it because it's cool. Well, if the IWC is that influential, if we can make them shed millions of viewers, they'd better start pandering to us. |
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I watched RAW for the first time in a while and I saw HHH & HBK beating up 1 third of the roster. I mean, most of the people they beat up and buried are jokes but come on.
You have Chris Masters punk out Jerry Lawler to help get him over or whatever, and then the next segment HHH knocks him out cold in less than 5 seconds. Like, what the fuck is the point in having Masters go over a 'legend', only to have him lying unconscious on some toilet seat 5 minutes later??? What a friggin waste of air time. |
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If you read this, you are going to die – a grotesque man with a glass black eye waits for you. He will show up unexpectedly and snatch you away and take you to his basement cellar. He will then pluck out your eyes with a knife, and begin poking you relentlessly with a sharp pen until you die. Once dead, he will compose your meat for the pigs. BRUTAL DEATH WILL COME UNLESS YOU POST THIS MESSAGE IN EIGHT MORE TOPICS IN THE NEXT 24 HOURS! You will receive a homebaked cookie with sprinkles on top for your efforts.
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^ That confused me aswell(in reply to Mr. JL). The segment with King just didn't seem to serve any prupose at all other than to waste time.
End the roster split already WWE, you fucking idiots. I'm just going to stop watching wrestling until they do, well actually, i'll watch Smackdown while its good, but i'm going avoid every raw show(aswell as highlight shows) until they start improving in the ratings or end the roster split. |
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The last month of Raw has been the worst month that I can remember. I seriously feel like I'm watching WCW Thunder.
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I don't know. I think WCW came up with some original stuff. Sure, it sucked, but at least "Viagra on a pole" hadn't run its course ten years ago...
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Vegas > Most.
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Vegas, I've been awrestling fan for 20 years. So for me to be losing interest, it hads to be bad. I've beren giving both TNA and WWE a chance every week for years now.
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All the talk about RAW and SmackDown, and no one has even mentioned ECW.
Tells you a LOT about how they are fucking up ECW, now does it? |
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Why the hell would anyone want to talk about ECW Velocity?
If it wasn't for Van Dam, I wouldn't even read the TV reports! |
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Is that some kind of gimmick you are trying to get over. Because you've said it twice and i still dont give a neck-breaking fuck. What i am saying is this. People expect too much out of RAW because of it's past. Now its not wrong to have high expectations, yet some people here seem to be biased, IMO. I will admit that RAW isn't the best that it could be and that it may have to do with some of the WWE talent scouts/writers being straight dumbasses, but if it is that bad, then just dont watch it. Yea, easier said than done, but its not that hard to do either. The problem with the WWE writing as a whole is that those who grew up watching it and were loyal fans have GROWN UP, yet they fail to realize that. My Point: Cryme Tyme is the shit |
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Another thing, i've seen it in the thread, but the roster split between RAW and SD! needs to end. We know why they've done it, but they need to think about the future. It is a good business move if they are REALLY competing, but everyone knows that Vince owns it all so no one will take it seriously. Plus, the WWE currently feels like it doesn't need a reason to bring the highest quality shows. With no real competition, they feel they can do this. This is one reason why i believe the buying of WCW was the worst thing for wrestling.
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So you admit 'Raw isnt the best' yet the opening tirade you posted was that it was 'pretty damn decent'. You then say that its down to the writers being 'straight dumbasses', again contradicting your original view that it was 'decent'. I'd say that you are backtracking under the weight of popular feeling. Raw is terrible, has been for weeks, there are no real storylines happening on Raw. Look at Hardy & Nitro, they wrestle week after week for the IC title, and I don't recall one single promo between them. This is for the (alledged) second most prestigious title in the WWE. They are just fighting, because, there isn't much else for them to do as neither are trusted on the mic, or are anywhere near a main event level. JR mocks Nitro for not wearing the belt, but then shouts 'BAHGAWD HERE COMES THE MARINE!' when John Cena appears carrying the belt like a 50% off Subway lunch. Carlito has 2 minutes a week to put over some sort of ladies man gimmick. DX have a good half hour, pretty much doing nothing. 'Cryme Time are the shit' according to you, but they are never in the ring. They are of course, a recycled 4 year old gimmick with 25 year old jokes (i can tell you liked that one). I don't have high expectations, I've been watching this crap for the last 3 years without any, but when Raw drops below the level of when Triple H was winning the title carrying an injury where he could hardly walk, then there's issues with the programming. As I say, I may watch it this Monday, I may not. I certainly won't be bothered if I missed it. And just to remember Johnny, my opinion matters......*sigh*...more. ![]() |
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And it's not a good business move in the sense that if someone at the top gets injured, they haven't got enough wrestlers ready to step up now. |
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You've lost me KK. You think anything anyone says/does is retarded though, so I'll just laugh that comment off.
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I understand that many people will not get a chance to shine, but that forces those people to 'step their game up'. As far as the traveling, hell, Flair did it, Rock did it, SCSA did it, HOGAN did it. It is a part of the business and people who enter it know this. |
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As far as the IC title portion you mentioned, the fued is just starting to heat up. After last monday, i expect a bit more emotional support to come because of how Nitro 'let out frustration' after the match, which will give the feeling that it is 'very personal'. One thing that is losing the viewers is Cena's gimmick. We all know it is stale, but it is not all of his fault. Which comes to my part of the writers being "dumbasses". Do what brought you to the dance, so to speak. THIS is where i believe the writers are fucking up. This is also why i believe that the roster split should stop, as it would give the writers more ideas as to what to do with the talent. Sure, everyone won't be able to compete, but that is either: 1.) Their own fault for not putting enough time into their character 2.) The crowd/consumer doesn't buy into them. So, with that said, you should get rid of the 'dead weight'. A smart business move. Things are so predictable because there is no variety on the show. We all know that Cena is going to beat Umaga, Orton is going to Mania, SS will split, etc. With more variety, i.e. ending the roster split, more ideas develop. Imagine this card for a PPV: -Cena v. Booker T (title unification match) -Hardy v. Nitro v. Benjamin v. Carlito (IC title match, preferably ladder or TLC) -Batista v. Edge v. Rey Mysterio (#1 Contenders match for heavyweight/WWE title) -Chavo v. Masters v. Benoit v. Umaga (#1 Contenders match for IC title) -Kendrick/London v. Edge/Orton (tag title unification match) -Jimmy Wang Yang v. Helms v. Mercury v. Noble(4-way elimination Cruiserweight Title Match) -Some interesting women's title match -JBL/JR or Cole at ringside (King can be an anchor) -DX could recruit some of the spirit squad when they split up or form some tag teams and that was just off the top of my head. Obviously it can be altered, but i think you see my point. Fresh ideas. Last edited by Johnny Vegas; 11-15-2006 at 05:02 PM. |
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