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I like Tazz, everytime I hear "It's all good in the hood!" it cracks me up, don't know why.
JR is the worst play by play guy in the WWE, he makes so many mistakes that King has to keep correcting. His voice get's more slury all the time, he's starting to sound more and more like Cartman. I remember hearing he suffered a stroke some years back, but when a horse starts chocking up the integrity of the show quality, it's time to take it out back and unload a shotgun into it's face. Still, WWE clearly don't give too much of a damn about quality at the moment, save for Smackdown. |
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I honestly like Coach's persona. I just think he's shitty at the table. He's a pro wrestling version of Carlton, and he does it well. |
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Personally I think JR and King are feeling comfortable. They know they're the "A Team", they know they don't have to be on top form constantly.
I've been hating their commentary for years. Even before Heyman came in back in 2001 I found them awful. Heyman's run only pushed the point home a little more. If it's not cliched "governmentmules", "one man ass kicking contests", "chocolate/bbq sauce ring mats/corners/etc" it's "PUPPIES!!". I get tired of repetition very quickly. Nowadays when watching Raw it's like playing SmackDown! vs Raw 2007...same 10 sentences about each particular wrestler. Anyways, out of 10, current guys only... JBL 9 Cole 6 Tazz 7 Styles 8.5 JR 4 King 3 |
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I think it is good when commentators instill things in wrestlers. "Gore! Gore! Gore!" got Rhyno OVER. It's too bad the WWE fucked it up. Much like catchphrases can help get crowds into wrestlers, commentators can help make a wrestler become more prominent, and it makes the commentator's job more than just talking over the rest holds. |
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That wasn't the retarded part of the statement.
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Granted, I was intoxicated when I wrote what I did, and may have not articulated as well as I could have, but are you going to crucify me over one mistake, my meaning has been made clear. Agree, disagree, or masturbate over yourself. Your choice. |
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Yes. You're being crucified. You poor fucking martyr.
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Hmm, it seems you went out of your way to point out one little mistake that could have very easily been ignored. It seems you're trying to get your jollies by jumping on me whenever you get the chance. I'm not comparing myself to Jesus here, just comparing you to the Jews. Seriously dude, the point of my post was made clear. Why do you find the need to make a big deal out of it. And no, it's not me making a big deal out of it, you made a completely redundant post just to be a condescending dick. The only one blowing things up here is you, I elaborated on my point, now can we get back to the topic? |
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Ron Paul 4 EVA
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Talking about how I went out of my way isn't blowing things up?
Right. Talking about how it was over some mistake (I'm not entirely sure what your minor mistake was, but you seem to be convinced that you're being nailed to a cross over it, so it must be huge ![]() Yeah, I'm the one making a big deal. Oh, right. I'm not the one saying those things. Now, if I wanted to "jump on you whenever I got the chance," I'd have made a few comments in other threads you've replied to. Face it, I'm not following you around, persecuting you, or being Jewish. I found your comment "and it's good to have commentators and wrestlers mesh. I mean, it makes the commentators kind of more prominent." to be fucking stupid. I don't know what your typo or whatever you think I'm on you about was, or what got your panties in a wad, but don't preach maturity if this is the way you're going to behave. It has nothing to do with any typo, or martyring you, or selling you out to the Romans, or whatever else I can stretch the metaphor into (Oh, that reminds me...Add "taking things literally for deliberate offense" into your list of actions). It has to do with this nonsense about making the announcers more prominent or bonding with the wrestlers, two things which never seem to work or come to any good. I seriously have nothing against you. I think you've been going pretty far out of your way to be an idiot of late, but Afterlife is contagious. I've thought that your booking was shit for the longest time, and have vocally said so. I think some of your ideas are borderline Vince Russo wet dreams, and that you're about as in-touch with the wrestling work as I am with the Bible Belt. That includes the above statements you made. None of this is news. You didn't seem to take any of those statements as personal attacks before, but I disagree with you on Edge, backing it up with the actual transcripts (whereas you couldn't be arsed to back up your claims about my statements, or took them out of context...Yeah, I'm the bad guy there), and suddenly you're complaining that I'm ruthlessly tearing into you. Funny that. My attitude never changed. why did yours? Drop the bullshit, 'Noid. I think only you and Afterlife actually believe it. |
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Oh, and thanks for instructing a fucking cripple on their typing skills. Perhaps you could also criticise my spelling? I'm sure that would be mature.
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I'm not taking this seriously at all, I used the word "crucified" as literary license as you have gone out of your way to make snide little remarks towards me recently. Granted, you do it to others, but it was you who blew it up. I personally don't like engaging you, as you tend to do this, and twist things the way you want them: You're the one who took the term "crucified" literally, not me. If I was literally being crucified, I'd be up on the cross, or at least using words like "martyr". Who did that? Oh, that's right, it was you. I made my opinion, and insulted it, I used the facts in the Edge thread (the woman was condescending, if you can't pick that up you are a moron), it was you who chose to run around changing the point of the thread, asking what it did to change people's minds. I have nothing against you, I think you have more personality than most people I've ever seen on forums, and for a while I could identify with you. But you seem to just be arguing for the sake of arguing now, and I'm just meeting you there. You don't bother me, I won't bother you. You'll find that I've given you positive rep for a lot of the smart stuff you say on these boards, and agree with you quite regularly on most matters. Truce? |
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JR and King had "character" long before they spouted stupid lines over and over again. GRanted, it's been a long time now since we didn't hear "Government mule" every six seconds, or"Bah Gawd" and "puppies!" screamed ad nauseum, but that really doesn't change things. Spouting a catchphrase and/or latching on to a single wrestler doesn't better define you or the wrestler. Quote:
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There was absolutely no reason to think my comment was literal. Interestingly enough, CanadianCrippla last night was asking me about my sources for the Ruse Report because some of the stories seemed a little dubious. This is about on the same level. There's no legitimate reason to believe Sting's soul was signed to WWE, and there's no legit reason to believe that my comment referred to an actual crufixion, due to the overall rareness of such an event these days. Myself, I break them out on Christmas and Groundhog's day, but that's just me. Quote:
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Oh, and since we can now call anything we want fact, that's a fact. Edge's argument was impotent, and if you can't see that, you're a moron. Also, the sky is green, and if you can't see that, you're a moron. Weeeeee, "facts" are fun. Quote:
I'm sorry, but that is wholly stupid. And I know that's not "mature" of me... ...Then again, I'm not the one who actually preaches maturity. PRactice what you preach, douchebag. Start by not proseltysing the meaning of others' words if you don't like it when they do it. Actually, start by not acting like an immature jackass while complaining that I am one. I don't think anyone here, even myself, will contend that I am mature. However, if you're going to complain about my maturity, then act like a little kid (Also using the same methodology, all while complain about mine, a la calling someone a moron for not seeing things your way), you're just making yourself into a hypocrite in due course, and giving me reason to not only mock you for it, but justify a continuation. The mature response to an immature person isn't to attack their maturity, grammar, etc. In fact, the smart money is on not doing something to someone else that offends you; you will simply engender more of it. Maturity means taking adversity in stride, and that includes not using insults as justification for more insults. Fuck, I learned that in second grade, yet you seem either not to grasp it, or to think you're proving a point (Which invariably fails, and is a foolish and immature way to handle things). Maturity alos probably, but does not explicitly include being thick skinned enough to not immediately draw insult because of a previous, unrelated thread. In the two threads where you have complained about me post "Edge is the Man," neither are anything new. Nothing I haven't done before, even when we weren't "fighting." So again, what's changed? My argument? No. My methodology? No, out of the several comments you've made over the past few days, I picked two, which are not only normal talking points for me, but pretty consistant with things that didn't get you offended before, or lead you to say I was "going out of my way" to attack you. The only real conclusion I can come to is that you are the one who's looking for a fight. And that's fine. Because as long as you're calling me a moron or insisting that I must have meant my response to crucifixion literally, I'm more than happy to continue mocking you. However, I always like to address the core sentiment; in this case, the fact that I took "shots" at you ruining wrestling before this, and always go after statements I believe to be false or stupid (Like, say, this character nonsense). But then it all comes back to the mock: Yes, I'm out to get you. You poor fucking martyr. (insert complaints about my wit, my tactics, and all the other things you can do because you're "mature" in the space privded below. I'll probably also get whined at foe being longwinded, but I would have otherwise been whined at for just saying what I wanted to say in the first place: LOL fuck off retard....) |
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Again, not that I care, but it seems a stupid and petty attack from someone trying to make the high ground. I'm not offended, just amused. I'm also dyslexic, ADHD, transgendered and have hearing damage (Not truly deaf, but can't hear bass frequencies all that well). Oh, and I hate the Irish. Plenty of "high ground" for you to take there, too. ![]() |
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I am the cheese
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I CANT SMELL! I TOO AM CRIPPLED! Pity me in a case of a gas leak.
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Hey Mister!
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You know who was awesome in the booth?
Raven. |
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stfu you guys, this thread is about Raven's awesome commentary now, not your homosexual attraction to eachother.
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You're entitled to your opinion. I haven't really taken notice of your comments about me ruining wrestling, I really couldn't give a fuck what you think. Likewise, I don't think you could wit yourself out of a knock, knock joke. I'm sure you don't give a fuck. Same shit. The only problem I have with your "mock" (if you can call it such, because it really didn't prove a point, and it really wasn't very insulting, or even clever) is that you took what I said the wrong way, which is what you constantly accuse other people of to "make" your arguments. I'd just like to make this clear, and I can't speak for everyone, but I can sure as Hell speak for myself: You are not God. Stop acting like you are a) smarter than everyone else, and b) can manipulate all circumstances to fit your ego. You can't. Stop fellating yourself and find a woman to do it for you. |
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I'm Mr. White Christmas
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I got bored with the paragraphs. Cliffs Notes version?
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Higher. Further. Faster.
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So that Tazz guy used to be a wrestler, huh?
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A lot of the guys are short. I don't know why they poke fun at Tazz. For God's sake they had REY MYSTERIO as their WORLD CHAMPION!
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Two homos having a pointless arguement on page 2.
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The big reason I hate Michael Cole is because he's clearly a clone of McMahon's commentary style from years ago. The one thing I really really FUCKING hate is when after the ref counts 2, he'll say some shit like 'its over its over!' or 'we've got a new champion'. Just like how McMahon used to.
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I was mocking the thread title you fucking idiot.
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Good one.
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I think Michael Cole would be better if he wasn't such a pussy and was his sly self more often. He actually hits JBL with some good zingers occasionally, and you can tell by the way JBL acts towards Cole, he's got some sort of affection for him.
Michael Cole could be pretty good if he wasn't such a whiney babyface character, in other words. It irritated me to no end at No Way Out when Randy Orton stole a victory from Rey Mysterio, and Michael Cole was having a hissy fit about how Rey Mysterio was cheated out of the match whilst representing Eddie Guerrero. "How dare he cheat, Eddie Guerrero would have never approved of that!". Stupid babyface shit holds Cole down. |
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Topic title was accurate.
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I don't know if they should have both guys on at the same time, but if they expand and maybe do two shows a week (*chort*), Raven and Kevin Nash should become TNA's colour commentators. Maybe have Kevin Nash do commentary part-time (I dunno if he could keep focus for an hour), and have Raven replace Don West? A quick question: Why does Don West have a job? I mean, I thought they just liked him because he had a laid-back, casual, almost fan-like quality to him. TNA isn't that company any more. It needs to grow, and one area of growth is in the broadcasting team. Mike Tenay actually knows what he is doing. Replace West with Shane Douglas, Raven or Kevin Nash, ASAP. |
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Isn't Raven Bi or gay? I heard he fucked Lodi.
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i like ole cole he makes color guys look good, he made king look better when he worked with him, then he made taz look great, now with jbl he makes him look like the best color guy since bobby the brain, and that is coles job get the wrestlers and the color guys over.
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How did everyone feel about Mark Madden? I never paid much attention to WCW, but he used to piss me off a lot when I did watch.
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