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View Poll Results: Who is the better wrestler?
CM Punk 19 34.55%
"Macho Man" Randy Savage 36 65.45%
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Old 02-10-2009, 07:39 AM   #41
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Just have better memories of Savage.
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Old 02-10-2009, 08:51 AM   #42
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Old 02-10-2009, 12:24 PM   #43
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Ehhh, I wanted to vote for Randy Orton but something made me click CM Punk's name.
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Old 02-10-2009, 02:03 PM   #44
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If you voted for Punk here, you fucking suck.

The Macho Man will continue to get my vote straight to the Hall of Fame. BE A MAN, PUNK!
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Old 02-10-2009, 02:06 PM   #45
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And who was that talking about Punk's feuds being better? That is ridiculous. From Flair, to Hogan, to The Ultimate Warrior, to Jake Roberts, to Crush (), Randy was just fantastic in feuds. He was effective as both a heel and a face, and he was ulrta talented in the ring.

Obviously I'm not going to count his WCW run, because at the time, it was where careers went to retire. He was just collecting (a ridiculous) paycheck at the time.

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Old 02-10-2009, 02:10 PM   #46
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Punk is ok. Savage is a legend.
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Old 02-10-2009, 07:08 PM   #47
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And who was that talking about Punk's feuds being better? That is ridiculous. From Flair, to Hogan, to The Ultimate Warrior, to Jake Roberts, to Crush (), Randy was just fantastic in feuds. He was effective as both a heel and a face, and he was ulrta talented in the ring.

Obviously I'm not going to count his WCW run, because at the time, it was where careers went to retire. He was just collecting (a ridiculous) paycheck at the time.

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Yeah, that was me. I was just jesting. I voted Savage obviously, because I am over 20.

Seriously, Punk is the new IWC's wet dream from what I can tell from this. But why? He is the most dullard character on Raw and his move set since coming to WWE is wank. Generic wrestler with a knee. That shit isn't more entertaining than what Savage brought to the table. One is called Savage and one is called Punk for a very good reason.
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Old 02-10-2009, 07:13 PM   #48
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Yeah, that was me. I was just jesting. I voted Savage obviously, because I am over 20.

Seriously, Punk is the new IWC's wet dream from what I can tell from this. But why? He is the most dullard character on Raw and his move set since coming to WWE is wank. Generic wrestler with a knee. That shit isn't more entertaining than what Savage brought to the table. One is called Savage and one is called Punk for a very good reason.


Wish I'd have said that.
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Old 02-10-2009, 07:56 PM   #49
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Punk is one of the best wrestlers on Raw.
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Old 02-10-2009, 08:01 PM   #50
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Wow. One of the best, out of the 17 guys on the Raw roster. He must lay awake at night with how giddy such a notion must make him.
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Old 02-10-2009, 08:05 PM   #51
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Juan better be joking. I mean, he's not wrong, but that's nowhere near enough to make him better than The Macho Man.
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Juan better be joking. I mean, he's not wrong, but that's nowhere near enough to make him better than The Macho Man.
I know, I voted for Macho Man. But I don't think he's as bad as Fabien is making him out to be. Punk is one of the top wrestlers in the company right now.
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I think people tend to forget just how good Macho Man was. Their perception of him is clouded by Slim Jim commercials, cartoon like stature, and his WCW days. In his prime, Randy Savage was incredible. He paved the way for guys like CM Punk.
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Old 02-10-2009, 08:30 PM   #55
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but don't the things that "cloud our perception" count toward his legacy, too? just because it sucked doesn't mean that it's excused. just asking.
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Well, I don't have Punk in the top 10 in the world, right now or any time since his debut, but I put Savage in the top 10 of all time.

He is an excellent worker, but his matches in ROH vs his matches in the E? not even comparible. Obviously he is restricted by TV time, card positioning and all of that, but how can he go from the work he did with Joe and Colt cobana, then go to OVW, and then get even more training from the Brits, whilst on the road, and somehow wind up with a moveset that makes him look very average? In-ring is the only place he has any chance of beating Savage, because Look, Charisma, Stickwork, over with the crowd, infamous matches and fueds all go to the Macho Man.

And in fact, fuck TV time limits as an excuse. RVD used to come out and light up the ring for 5 minutes at a time on WWE TV every week.

I wouldn't put this much into talking about why Mark Henry shouldn't win, because the skills and potential aren't there to make it an interesting match up, but Punk can and should be showing better quality accross the board now he has finally made it.
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Old 02-10-2009, 08:34 PM   #57
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but don't the things that "cloud our perception" count toward his legacy, too? just because it sucked doesn't mean that it's excused. just asking.
counting as legitimate factors, and allowing them to overshadow your positive feelings aren't the same thing.
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oh i've never been a big macho man fan. this wasn't really that hard for me. i was just asking.
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but don't the things that "cloud our perception" count toward his legacy, too? just because it sucked doesn't mean that it's excused. just asking.
You can judge it on anything you want. If that's what defines Savage to somebody, then that's how it is. It's their vote to cast. I'm simply stating that I think a lot of people are oblivious to, or have forgetten, the fact that Randy Savage was a 5 star wrestler in his day. He was also one of the first athletic, smaller, high flying wrestlers to ever break the glass ceiling and become elevated to superstar/main event status based on how over he was. Guys like Shawn, Jericho, and even CM Punk would later do the same.
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They put the title on him for a year during the Hulkamania Boom.

Says it all for me.
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He had a hell of a career. It came to a screeching hault in WCW, but at one point he was right alongside Hogan as the biggest name in pro-wrestling. He was comparable to The Rock in the Austin era.
WWE has chosen not to promote this legacy, but it was there. Everyone knew Macho Man, not just wrestling fans.
I personally think it's a shame that the Macho Man doesn't get the credit he deserves. He had an incredible career though.
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macho man randy sevavage is big wrestler icons but cm punk is nobody even he win world titles, ecw titles or the eaterconeteaninetal titles. why will wwe have hard names
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Old 02-11-2009, 03:45 PM   #64
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Is this even a legit question? Its not even close IMO.... Punk needs to be around for another 10+ years to even come close.... Saveg FTW
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