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Old 05-09-2009, 04:45 PM   #81
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I think that he should actually start wrestling in mid-card feuds instead of Diva feuds. He could drop part of the comedic gimmick but keep mis-pronouncing people's names. Get a few wins under his belt, he could get a little bit cocky and easily transition into a "Rock" like entertainer.
Seriously, it's not rocket science.

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No, seriously, mid-carder for life.
Quite possible. But he obviously has the potential to go places.
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Old 05-11-2009, 01:13 AM   #82
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You don't think his size could translate into the crowd sympathising with him? I'm not saying Santino Marella WILL be a main eventer. That'd be a ridiculous guarantee to make, but it's very rare that a character connects so well with crowds as Santino. He's consistently been one of the most entertaining highlights on a dull roster, and he's had considerable success DESPITE being a comedic character.

If the WWE actually decided to get a bit more seriously behind him, he could snowball to the top, I think.
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Old 05-11-2009, 02:47 AM   #83
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We don't need another sympathy case in the main event. I think they learned their lesson when Rey held the belt. I realize he connects with the fans. That is the mark of a great showman. Do you not remember back in the Attitude era when guys like Road Dogg, Billy Gunn, Al Snow, Goldust, Godfather, and, yes Val Venis all connected with the fans? For one reason or another, they didn't get pushed to the main event. You could argue that some of those guys didn't have the right look that a Rock, HHH, or a Stone Cold had, but there was still a spot on the roster for them because of their talent. That is the case with Santino. I'm not sure what you mean about him having success "despite being a comedic character." That is exactly why he is having success now. He was so one-dimensional before. There is no reason to play with the formula as long as it is working.
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Old 05-13-2009, 12:13 AM   #84
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We don't need another sympathy case in the main event. I think they learned their lesson when Rey held the belt. I realize he connects with the fans. That is the mark of a great showman. Do you not remember back in the Attitude era when guys like Road Dogg, Billy Gunn, Al Snow, Goldust, Godfather, and, yes Val Venis all connected with the fans? For one reason or another, they didn't get pushed to the main event. You could argue that some of those guys didn't have the right look that a Rock, HHH, or a Stone Cold had, but there was still a spot on the roster for them because of their talent. That is the case with Santino. I'm not sure what you mean about him having success "despite being a comedic character." That is exactly why he is having success now. He was so one-dimensional before. There is no reason to play with the formula as long as it is working.
The thing about all those guys you mentioned is that they are from a different era, where everybody was over to some degree. Nowadays, it's a much rarer thing for someone to actually get the fans to care about them.

What I meant by him having achieved success despite being a comedic character, is that in a kayfabe sense, the guy is actually quite accomplished. He's a two-time Intercontinental Champion, which is more than a lot of others guy will achieve in their lifetime. The point is that despite coming off like he should be a loser who never wins anything, Marella has got two mid-card title wins to his name.

Also, Mysterio himself was not a poor choice for World Champion. His reign was horribly handled, and booking destroyed him as a main event force. Also, Marella's a fair bit bigger than Mysterio, and has got more weight to his style, as well. His MMA stuff would be a lot easier to take seriously. Marella and Mysterio are bad comparisons.

Also, I am not saying he should drop the gimmick. I'm just asking whether or not the WWE would benefit by making him a goofball outside the ring, but a serious competitor inside it, ala Kurt Angle and Chris Jericho circa 2000.
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I don't really put much stock in those Intercontinental title wins. The first was a "fluke" when his gimmick was the Milan Miracle. The second was a comedy run in which he beat Kofi Kingston (he didn't actually even gain the fall).

Think like Vince. He doesn't see the small man offense as being credible, and honestly, it shouldn't be in professional wrestling. Everything we have been taught by the WWE says that you need to be big to succeed, so a guy the size of Little Spike Dudley should get tossed around like Spike. He may grab a tag title reign with somebody, but I don't think he will ever hold even the ECW championship because I don't think by WWE standards he is the guy to anchor that show.
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I try and can`t recall a guy who would be on a midcard losing streak doing comedy and wearing a drag, then becoming the world champion.
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Old 05-13-2009, 02:27 AM   #87
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I try and can`t recall a guy who would be on a midcard losing streak doing comedy and wearing a drag, then becoming the world champion.
William Regal would have fit that quota if he hadn't fucked up his massive heel push last year.
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Old 05-13-2009, 02:28 AM   #88
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I don't really put much stock in those Intercontinental title wins. The first was a "fluke" when his gimmick was the Milan Miracle. The second was a comedy run in which he beat Kofi Kingston (he didn't actually even gain the fall).

Think like Vince. He doesn't see the small man offense as being credible, and honestly, it shouldn't be in professional wrestling. Everything we have been taught by the WWE says that you need to be big to succeed, so a guy the size of Little Spike Dudley should get tossed around like Spike. He may grab a tag title reign with somebody, but I don't think he will ever hold even the ECW championship because I don't think by WWE standards he is the guy to anchor that show.
Well, to be honest, it doesn't really matter what stock anyone puts into them. An Intercontinental Title win is an Intercontinental Title. People remember Chris Jericho as an eight-time IC Champion -- not as a guy who sometimes won and lost the title in the same night.
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