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Old 03-07-2015, 08:35 AM   #121
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Those sexual harassment charges brought up by the Diva makes me wonder if that had anything to do with Audrey Marie and her sudden dismissal even as she was slated to be Sister Abigail (or something similar) in a bigger Wyatt Family.
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Old 03-07-2015, 09:13 AM   #122
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From what I've read, Regal's job is to go around the world scouting talent. That's equally as important to the company.
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I am glad that Bill DeMott is gone. Disappointed in how WWE's investigations found the allegations to be false.
That's the official statement. but This smells very much like Hunter or Vince going to Bill saying "You have to quit so we don't have fire you"
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Old 03-07-2015, 10:16 AM   #124
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If you are busting peoples ass to get into WWE Shape, maybe you should practice what you preach and not be a fat ass yourself.
Man thank god Phil Jackson and bill belichek and John wooden were such great athletes and in such amazing shape or else they would have been horrible teachers
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Old 03-07-2015, 02:59 PM   #125
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Those sexual harassment charges brought up by the Diva makes me wonder if that had anything to do with Audrey Marie and her sudden dismissal even as she was slated to be Sister Abigail (or something similar) in a bigger Wyatt Family.
Been rumored or assumed for a while that was very likely the case. Either she complained or other people complaining on her behalf led to her getting fired.

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Old 03-07-2015, 03:09 PM   #126
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What a massive shame, she really had it all and it affected the original plans for the 6-8 member Wyatt Family
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Old 03-07-2015, 03:58 PM   #127
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The worst thing about the Sexual Harassment allegations is that, depending on jurisdiction, Independent Contractors aren't protected under the law.

Which seems to go back to the misclassification of the WWE's workers.
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Old 03-07-2015, 07:39 PM   #130
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From what I've read, Regal's job is to go around the world scouting talent. That's equally as important to the company.
This is true. I read that he was a scout. It's a pretty important role. In addition to that, I'm sure Regal helps in almost every other area of a talent's development as well. To be head coach on top of that? Pretty exhausting.
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Those sexual harassment charges brought up by the Diva makes me wonder if that had anything to do with Audrey Marie and her sudden dismissal even as she was slated to be Sister Abigail (or something similar) in a bigger Wyatt Family.
I thought of her too. It's a shame, because I quite liked Audrey Marie. I thought she had a fair bit of charisma for a female talent at her level. I wonder if the company will ever reach out to her again?
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I am glad that Bill DeMott is gone. Disappointed in how WWE's investigations found the allegations to be false.
I'm not even convinced their investigation was that thorough or serious

I keep hoping for some PR disaster to expose the WWE(It seems like they are really crooked) but they seem to skate by every time.
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Jamie Noble and Joey Mercury should start the Stamford Investigation Agency, solely to dismiss all the accusations made to The Authority. All of the allegations made by disgruntled current employees are false and have no grounds.
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Old 03-07-2015, 08:28 PM   #134
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They did something like that on TV once with Kane conducting an investigation.

When ever I see the words internal investigation my bullshit sense goes off especially with this company.
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Jim Ross has come out and basically written a "back in my day" blog about the issue.
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Jim Ross has come out and basically written a "back in my day" blog about the issue.
yeah I am ready for the oldtimer podcasts next week taz already piped in. lets see what piper stonecold and jr say.
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Old 03-08-2015, 06:15 PM   #141
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Jim Ross has come out and basically written a "back in my day" blog about the issue.
Yea I dunno how to feel about that. He seems to share Vince's train of thought that we're all entitled whining millennials and it seems like even though he issued disclaimers throughout the blog that he supports the shit Demott pulled as it would toughen you up.
I love J.R. but man oh man.
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Old 03-08-2015, 06:33 PM   #142
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I think there's a couple things someone should point out to Mr. Ross.

1. Back in his day, they barely knew what a concussion was, let alone what the long term effects of them were.

2. It is no longer his day. Times change. Some things that were perfectly alright in his day, are no longer cool. Hazing is one of those things that are going the way of prohibition. There's a way to separate the wheat from the chaff, but sadistic abuse is not an acceptable way to do so.

And I'm not even one of those folks who are opposed to roughing folks up to get a point across. I had no problem with what Holly did to Capotelli. But there's a difference between stretching someone or roughing someone up and what Laughing Man was doing. I'm pretty sure Hiro Matsuda wasn't slapping his students on their broken leg.
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Old 03-08-2015, 06:34 PM   #143
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Yeah, really disappointed in J.R.
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Old 03-08-2015, 06:42 PM   #144
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Well then allow me to withdraw my sympathy for J.R. being mocked for his Bells Palsy cause you know people mocking your physical ailment is just to toughen you up.
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Old 03-08-2015, 06:47 PM   #145
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JR isn't really known for his progressive attitude towards the business, but it's still disappointing to see him back these asinine actions.
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Old 03-08-2015, 07:00 PM   #146
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I can't say I'm surprised. JR is pretty out of touch on a lot of things.
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Just came in to talk about JR, but all my points have been touched on. Pretty poor form on JR's behalf.
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Old 03-08-2015, 08:08 PM   #148
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I wonder if JR made the foolish mistake of not fully researching the extent of DeMott's actions. I don't see how anybody can defend him. This is beyond tough love and ribbing.
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Old 03-08-2015, 08:26 PM   #149
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Not surprised he'd have an old school mentality about the idea of toughening up rookies even though he did say he was completely against the abuse part of it.

Him trying to compare Demott's abuse with Peterson's child abuse as just a generational difference thing was a really bad example.
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Old 03-08-2015, 09:07 PM   #150
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All older wrestlers/personalities are going to defend Bill DeMott.
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Old 03-08-2015, 09:11 PM   #151
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I dunno. Aren't there some old school tough bastards saying he went way too far?
And I keep seeing tweets defending this dude suggesting this is all made up I'm always amazed at the horrible stuff people try to justify. There is such a huge difference between being hard on people and just being an abusive, sadistic, asshole. Pretty sure people wouldn't complain if he was just hard on them.
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JR's blog isn't that bad.
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I dunno aren't there some old school hard asses saying he went way too far?
Supposedly Harley Race hates Demott's training system but hasn't gone out in public saying it. Some developmental wrestlers went to him asking for advice and he was pissed to hear what was going on.
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It's wrestling school. It's not supposed to be boot camp. If DeMott wants to be a drill instructor he can enlist.
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If all this is true, this is really despicable.

I'm all for pushing the trainees to the limits physically, as long as it doesn't become dangerous or risk the health or safety of any of the superstars or trainers. That being said, there's absolutely no need to intentionally, negligently or recklessly risk injury or re-injury to a potential superstar as has been alleged.

Also, there's no need to mock or make fun of anyone who may be different or have a different background from what's considered "normal." This is supposed to be a professional environment in a publicly traded company run by adults, not a school yard or high school locker room. That's just plain bullying, which I thought WWE was AGAINST.

Also, if someone's really struggling or just not cutting it, there's no need to mock, scream, humiliate or embarrass them for it. Simply pull them aside and discuss the situation with them. If it's that big of an issue or becomes one, then give them fair warning and release or fire the superstar.

That being said, there's just NO excuse for allowing or covering up sexual harassment or abuse by any employee or superstar.
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The American Icon actually sums up the situation quite well.

Another way to look at this: imagine if when HHH tore his quad in that match, if someone with veteran status like a Harley Race came up to him in the back and started slapping him in the thigh and calling him a lazy pussy.

If you can't see a difference in tough love and sadistic abuse, you're likely doing it wrong, and General Rection seemed to not have any distinction between the two. There is no tangible lesson to be learned from being singled out and ridden constantly, training naked, or asked to do unneccessarily dangerous shit that can get you hurt in a business where your body health is already on the line in "perfect" conditions.
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Chris Jericho tweeted and then deleted...

"Hey @BillDeMott is a good friend & great trainer. If u can’t handle it then quit. My training at #HartBrothers camp was 10,000 times worse!"

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EC3's "response" to Chris Jericho was pretty solid. I would love to here them talk in podcast format.
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I would too. I feel like Jericho deleting his tweet though was his way of saying "Nevermind, I don't wanna defend this stance" though so I doubt it will happen.
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Jericho taking a page out of Guru Dave's book
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