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Old 04-03-2016, 11:56 PM   #1
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WWE WrestleMania 32 is the 1st time that Triple H has walked into WM as WWE World Heavyweight Champion and LOST the title to his opponent.

The former 'Big Gold' World Title, that was the WCW World Title, is discounted, because that was not WWE's home-grown world title, when the championship was known as the WWWF World Heavyweight Championship upon creation in 1963.

So, bye bye to H's unbeaten WWE World Title run at WrestleMania, courtesy Roman Reigns.

And fuck you, Little Jimmy.

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Old 04-03-2016, 11:47 PM   #2
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Fuck Hunter for wanting to close the night.
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Fuck Hunter for wanting to close the night.
According to dirtsheets, etc., Triple H wanted Shane/Taker to main event. Vince was the one pushing for Triple H/Reigns to main event.
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According to dirtsheets, etc., Triple H wanted Shane/Taker to main event. Vince was the one pushing for Triple H/Reigns to main event.
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Old 04-03-2016, 11:49 PM   #5
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Fuck Hunter for wanting to close the night.
Reports had HHH wanting Taker/Shane going on last. He knew this shit was going to happen.
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Was this the worst WM main event ever from every standpoint top to bottom?
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That was terrible. At least the bad WM's have the crowd mostly cheering at the end.
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Was this the worst WM main event ever from every standpoint top to bottom?
Wasn't Orton versus Triple H pretty meh?
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lol at him going over clean
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The explosion of cheers when they counted three were so clearly piped in considering the crowd had been booing the shit out of Reigns just seconds earlier. Just garbage.
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The explosion of cheers when they counted three were so clearly piped in considering the crowd had been booing the shit out of Reigns just seconds earlier. Just garbage.
Was a bit funny that there were people cheering but WWE being too quick with the muting or crowd noise lowering got rid of those. Just a bunch of people front row doing the cheering motions but barely any sounds coming out.
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They brought back the post Wrestlemania video package
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Ladder match was good
Womens mstch was good
Styles and Jericho was good

Everything else was meh or worse and although it was bad Corbin winning tge battle royal could be a bright spot
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It blows my mind how 2 hours of Takeover was exponentially more enjoyable than near-7 hours of Wrestlemania
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Oh man The revisionist history on this one......
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Hey! It was the best WM of all-time until the night after WM 33 next year when IT becomes the best of all-time!
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Old 04-03-2016, 11:51 PM   #18
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A lot of good matches. Vince's refusal to accept Roman is the drizzling shits is what killed this show.
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Just....wow....I can't believe they just said "fuck the crowd" this is what we're doing.

Did they think Shaq and a surprise Zack Ryder win 8 hours ago would satisfy the crowd?
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Watching the hell in a cell match

They showed shane mcmahon being carted out so I assume he loses

I hit "start from beginning" on wwe network and it brought me to the middle of this match
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this was a show which needed a lot of bells and whistles and didn't really get any. That main event while not terrible by any stretch was exactly what you'd expect to happen by booking the match like that and putting it on last.
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this was a show which needed a lot of bells and whistles and didn't really get any. That main event while not terrible by any stretch was exactly what you'd expect to happen by booking the match like that and putting it on last.
Of course it wasn't terrible. That would be disrespectful to the definition of the word.
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Cena was actually the legit #1 face in 04-05. Reigns was never ever even legit over on his own.
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I dunno about that. I'm inclined to agree with the notion but this isn't the first time they've been "derailed" like this. At some point they need to win over someone credible.
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Ok....now that you all hate what you've just watched, pay for it every month and don't cancel. Noelle Foley is hot. Isn't that worth it??
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Ok....now that you all hate what you've just watched, pay for it every month and don't cancel. Noelle Foley is hot. Isn't that worth it??

To be fair I didn't pay a thing that said 3 of those matches I'd have gladly paid for well 3 1/2
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I can kind of sympathize with the Jericho win in that regard as well, however. Jericho has done nothing but put people over for the past few years, to the point that beating him almost means nothing now. Winning a WM match gives him some credibility back. AJ Styles is a pretty big star and he wasn't buried and he doesn't have a long backlog of losing a bunch of feuds etc, so this loss doesn't hurt him that much. I can see the justification for it, even if I don't agree with it
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Almost exclusively terrible:

Ladder match: Fine, but weird to end it by putting it on someone who hadn't be hyped at all
Jericho/Styles: Fine again, but a weird decision to job AJ
League of Nations/New Day: Just embarrassed for the four in the LoNs. Waste of talent
Lesnar/Ambrose: So short and anti-climatic
Women's Match: Highlight, best match by far
Undertaker/Shane: A couple of good spots but not that entertaining
Battle Royale: Happy with ending in otherwise dull match
The Rock and Wyatt segement: Killing one of the WWEs best potential assets
Reigns/HHH: Booking decisions aside, was also a fucking dull match
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Takeover > Raw tomorrow > Mania

My guess that will be the final verdict when all is said and done. Can't see Ryder being champ past tomorrow night .

Really didn't get AJ or Sasha losing decisions but who knows maybe all corrected tomorrow night as well.

Shanes bump was sick but rest of match was meh.

Ambrose / Brock deserved more time then the Battle Royal.

Women had match of night by a mile.
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Takeover > Raw tomorrow > Mania

My guess that will be the final verdict when all is said and done. Can't see Ryder being champ past tomorrow night .

Really didn't get AJ or Sasha losing decisions but who knows maybe all corrected tomorrow night as well.

Shanes bump was sick but rest of match was meh.

Ambrose / Brock deserved more time then the Battle Royal.

Women had match of night by a mile.
You, my friend, are in for a huge surprise.
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Meh. Thought AJ vs Jericho was a better match.
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Almost exclusively terrible:

Ladder match: Fine, but weird to end it by putting it on someone who hadn't be hyped at all
Jericho/Styles: Fine again, but a weird decision to job AJ
League of Nations/New Day: Just embarrassed for the four in the LoNs. Waste of talent
Lesnar/Ambrose: So short and anti-climatic
Women's Match: Highlight, best match by far
Undertaker/Shane: A couple of good spots but not that entertaining
Battle Royale: Happy with ending in otherwise dull match
The Rock and Wyatt segement: Killing one of the WWEs best potential assets
Reigns/HHH: Booking decisions aside, was also a fucking dull match
Strange to read so many negative comments on here.

Reading the live updates, I figured the PPV was pretty good?!

I disagree with people being upset over LON's and the Wyatt's. Any time you get air time with a Stone Cold, Foley, HBK, Rocky, Cena, etc., you are getting a gift.

I agree with Road Doggy Dogg that the Wyatt's have been in this instance one too many times, but it will be easy to repush them/re-establish credibility if the WWE so chooses it.

Why aren't more people happy to see Ryder going over big time?.........or that Kalisto guy getting a solid win over Ryback?

Can't please em' all?
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I disagree with people being upset over LON's and the Wyatt's. Any time you get air time with a Stone Cold, Foley, HBK, Rocky, Cena, etc., you are getting a gift.
Oh come on... lol
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Back in 2012, DX destroyed Damien Sandow on the 1000th episode but it actually helped Sandow (albeit, briefly).
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Back in 2012, DX destroyed Damien Sandow on the 1000th episode but it actually helped Sandow (albeit, briefly).
It helped him? Because I remember him completely changing gimmicks soon after. Unless there was an explanation that the beatdown turned him retarded and made him go from a genius to a guy who just impersonates people, I don't think it helped him.
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Strange to read so many negative comments on here.

Reading the live updates, I figured the PPV was pretty good?!

I disagree with people being upset over LON's and the Wyatt's. Any time you get air time with a Stone Cold, Foley, HBK, Rocky, Cena, etc., you are getting a gift.

I agree with Road Doggy Dogg that the Wyatt's have been in this instance one too many times, but it will be easy to repush them/re-establish credibility if the WWE so chooses it.

Why aren't more people happy to see Ryder going over big time?.........or that Kalisto guy getting a solid win over Ryback?

Can't please em' all?
It came across bland. Some stuff was cool, but after watching takeover dallas, this shit just seems so out of date.
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Why aren't more people happy to see Ryder going over big time?.........or that Kalisto guy getting a solid win over Ryback?

Can't please em' all?
In the case of Kalisto, and kind of related to your theory of sharing air-time with legends, I think it's more a case of the quality of what we're seeing, rather than the fact we're seeing it.

Kalisto has two wins over Ryback now, clean. Should be a big deal, but nobody really gives a fuck because the matches were pretty boring. I like both guys, but long matches do not favor Ryback, especially when his opponent is a midget who he should be eating for breakfast.

Likewise for Kalisto, they would probably be able to showcase him better, working in matches where he can fly around a bit and show what he can do, rather than going in matches with guys who's matches shouldn't last more than two minutes.

As for the legends thing, it's like I said above about Foley/Orton. Even if Orton had lost that feud in 2004, it'd have showcased what he could do and give him some legit exposure. Being squashed by a legend can have it's place, but when it happens EVERY FUCKING TIME it's basically saying "you'll never be as good as the Attitude Era guys". Just for once, I'd love to see Rock or Austin or someone get in a guy like Bray Wyatt's face, and for Wyatt to just hit the Sister Abigail and walk off, without being made to look like a bitch.
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In the case of Kalisto, and kind of related to your theory of sharing air-time with legends, I think it's more a case of the quality of what we're seeing, rather than the fact we're seeing it.

Kalisto has two wins over Ryback now, clean. Should be a big deal, but nobody really gives a fuck because the matches were pretty boring. I like both guys, but long matches do not favor Ryback, especially when his opponent is a midget who he should be eating for breakfast.
I agree. It's similar to them pushing Reigns and Cena (at least in the past) as underdogs. Cena looks more than capable, especially when he always over comes the odds... and ESPECIALLY Reigns, who looks like pretty much a bad ass, mother fucking, ass kicker, who probably doesn't actually need to talk much to get over, ala Goldberg, Taker, Kane, etc.

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when it happens EVERY FUCKING TIME it's basically saying "you'll never be as good as the Attitude Era guys". Just for once, I'd love to see Rock or Austin or someone get in a guy like Bray Wyatt's face, and for Wyatt to just hit the Sister Abigail and walk off, without being made to look like a bitch.
I agree, it's been over done to the point it's become an issue, where it's actively preventing newer talent from getting over or reaching the level of the past stars. Unfortunately, Vince doesn't seem to care enough to realize this and/or do something different.
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