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Old 04-03-2016, 11:58 PM   #1681
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Brock/Ambrose should have gotten more time. They were clearly weren't in a rush.
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Old 04-03-2016, 11:59 PM   #1682
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So that was THE BIGGEST WRESTLEMANIA OF ALL TIMES.
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This show felt like a longer version of fastlane except not as good because they main event wasn't as good.
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Old 04-04-2016, 12:01 AM   #1684
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Takeover > Raw tomorrow > Mania

My guess that will be the final verdict when all is said and done. Can't see Ryder being champ past tomorrow night .

Really didn't get AJ or Sasha losing decisions but who knows maybe all corrected tomorrow night as well.

Shanes bump was sick but rest of match was meh.

Ambrose / Brock deserved more time then the Battle Royal.

Women had match of night by a mile.
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Old 04-04-2016, 12:02 AM   #1685
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Almost exclusively terrible:

Ladder match: Fine, but weird to end it by putting it on someone who hadn't be hyped at all
Jericho/Styles: Fine again, but a weird decision to job AJ
League of Nations/New Day: Just embarrassed for the four in the LoNs. Waste of talent
Lesnar/Ambrose: So short and anti-climatic
Women's Match: Highlight, best match by far
Undertaker/Shane: A couple of good spots but not that entertaining
Battle Royale: Happy with ending in otherwise dull match
The Rock and Wyatt segement: Killing one of the WWEs best potential assets
Reigns/HHH: Booking decisions aside, was also a fucking dull match
Strange to read so many negative comments on here.

Reading the live updates, I figured the PPV was pretty good?!

I disagree with people being upset over LON's and the Wyatt's. Any time you get air time with a Stone Cold, Foley, HBK, Rocky, Cena, etc., you are getting a gift.

I agree with Road Doggy Dogg that the Wyatt's have been in this instance one too many times, but it will be easy to repush them/re-establish credibility if the WWE so chooses it.

Why aren't more people happy to see Ryder going over big time?.........or that Kalisto guy getting a solid win over Ryback?

Can't please em' all?
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Old 04-04-2016, 12:03 AM   #1686
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I disagree with people being upset over LON's and the Wyatt's. Any time you get air time with a Stone Cold, Foley, HBK, Rocky, Cena, etc., you are getting a gift.
Oh come on... lol
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Old 04-04-2016, 12:04 AM   #1687
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Strange to read so many negative comments on here.

Reading the live updates, I figured the PPV was pretty good?!

I disagree with people being upset over LON's and the Wyatt's. Any time you get air time with a Stone Cold, Foley, HBK, Rocky, Cena, etc., you are getting a gift.

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Why aren't more people happy to see Ryder going over big time?.........or that Kalisto guy getting a solid win over Ryback?

Can't please em' all?
It came across bland. Some stuff was cool, but after watching takeover dallas, this shit just seems so out of date.
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Old 04-04-2016, 12:04 AM   #1688
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Legitimately conflicted. Serious question: it seems like the only way to really voice dissatisfaction would be to cancel the network, but NXT is great and deserves support, as do a lot of main roster talent. Do we just bend over and take a Reigns-dominated future because other things are good?
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Old 04-04-2016, 12:04 AM   #1689
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Takeover > Raw tomorrow > Mania

My guess that will be the final verdict when all is said and done. Can't see Ryder being champ past tomorrow night .

Really didn't get AJ or Sasha losing decisions but who knows maybe all corrected tomorrow night as well.

Shanes bump was sick but rest of match was meh.

Ambrose / Brock deserved more time then the Battle Royal.

Women had match of night by a mile.
You, my friend, are in for a huge surprise.
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Old 04-04-2016, 12:05 AM   #1690
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Any time you're getting squashed by someone you're not getting over.
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Old 04-04-2016, 12:06 AM   #1691
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Women had match of night by a mile.
Meh. Thought AJ vs Jericho was a better match.
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Old 04-04-2016, 12:06 AM   #1692
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Damn so they were on the verge of having a "new regime" control raw (even though it would have just been the same peeps booking the show even if Shane McMahon had won) and the worst guy ever in probably his long term run as WWE World Heavyweight Champion... seems really really bad
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Old 04-04-2016, 12:06 AM   #1693
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Oh come on... lol
Back in 2012, DX destroyed Damien Sandow on the 1000th episode but it actually helped Sandow (albeit, briefly).
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Old 04-04-2016, 12:08 AM   #1694
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Old 04-04-2016, 12:08 AM   #1695
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Wyatt has been squashed 3 years in a row at WrestleMania.
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Old 04-04-2016, 12:08 AM   #1696
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I'm glad I finally get to say the Womens title match on the main roster on the biggiest PPV stole this show.
That is the only light here


You won't know that tho after Vince's minions edit this show to make Reigns look like fucking Daniel Bryan.
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Old 04-04-2016, 12:09 AM   #1697
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Any time you're getting squashed by someone you're not getting over.
Screen time with top legends in the business is better than no screen time at all.

Who would you have rather been tonight? Bray Wyatt or Jack Swagger?
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Old 04-04-2016, 12:09 AM   #1699
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Mania felt odd overall at least for me. Lots of odd booking decisions but the show itself wasn't terrible nor was it great. Also didn't feel like the extra hour was worth it for the show.

Didn't have that feeling of being a big surprise in goodness from an awful Road to Mania like last year.

IC ladder match might have been the best match from start to finish tonight.
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Back in 2012, DX destroyed Damien Sandow on the 1000th episode but it actually helped Sandow (albeit, briefly).
It helped him? Because I remember him completely changing gimmicks soon after. Unless there was an explanation that the beatdown turned him retarded and made him go from a genius to a guy who just impersonates people, I don't think it helped him.
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So that was THE BIGGEST WRESTLEMANIA OF ALL TIMES.
Next year will be the most magical
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Screen time with top legends in the business is better than no screen time at all.

Who would you have rather been tonight? Bray Wyatt or Jack Swagger?
So you're reasoning is basically "At least he's not Jack Swagger!"?
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Old 04-04-2016, 12:12 AM   #1706
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Trying to focus on the positives, the best parts of the night to me were:


IC ladder match was aight. Ryder winning is a cool moment though I thought it was a weird booking decision based on his total last minute addition and all

Women's match: was great. Not a fan of Flair being involved in the decision. Let Charlotte be get her own heat, she's capable

Corbin winning the battle royale

that spear on Steph (and Steph's attire in general, smokeshow)

AJ/Jericho was a good match, don't fully agree with Jericho going over but hell he's jobbed to everyone lately so it's good to get him a "big game" win. AJ will recover from it

New Day's entrance

Austin 'ell yeah

Rock's jokes about Wyatt family were funny even if the segment sucked and buried them
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Old 04-04-2016, 12:12 AM   #1707
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Interested to see where they go for Extreme Rules. What will The Authority do? AJ/Jericho 5, Women's division going forward, Cena returns?, Shane gonna disappear? Ryder with title, KO vs Zayn on the big stage, etc.
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Next year will be the most magical
I don't know. This year was pretty magical. They made cheers come out of thin air.
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Old 04-04-2016, 12:14 AM   #1709
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Wyatt has been squashed 3 years in a row at WrestleMania.
Has he really been 'squashed', or do the WWE see a red flag in him which is preventing them from pushing him to the heights that they want?

You can't just push someone because it looks good on paper?

In 2004 - none of us could understand why Randy Orton's push was derailed so quickly after his Summerslam victory. In the year's following, he was also held a step below the likes of Cena. No one could figure out why.

As it turned out, Orton was a huge dick backstage and was extremely immature. He didn't have the leadership qualities needed to be a leader in the lockerroom.

Perhaps in Wyatt's case, perhaps he has a few holes in his wrestling?
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Old 04-04-2016, 12:14 AM   #1710
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Once again, Vince proving that the current roster is no comparison to the attitude Era retirees.
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Old 04-04-2016, 12:14 AM   #1711
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So glad all this young talent got over tonight......
I said about the same thing last year, sarcastically.
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Old 04-04-2016, 12:15 AM   #1712
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Worst Mania ever. Holy shit.
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Worst Mania ever. Holy shit.
Not by a long shot
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Has he really been 'squashed', or do the WWE see a red flag in him which is preventing them from pushing him to the heights that they want?

You can't just push someone because it looks good on paper?

In 2004 - none of us could understand why Randy Orton's push was derailed so quickly after his Summerslam victory. In the year's following, he was also held a step below the likes of Cena. No one could figure out why.

As it turned out, Orton was a huge dick backstage and was extremely immature. He didn't have the leadership qualities needed to be a leader in the lockerroom.

Perhaps in Wyatt's case, perhaps he has a few holes in his wrestling?
... Roman Reigns just won the world title...
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Has he really been 'squashed', or do the WWE see a red flag in him which is preventing them from pushing him to the heights that they want?

You can't just push someone because it looks good on paper?

In 2004 - none of us could understand why Randy Orton's push was derailed so quickly after his Summerslam victory. In the year's following, he was also held a step below the likes of Cena. No one could figure out why.

As it turned out, Orton was a huge dick backstage and was extremely immature. He didn't have the leadership qualities needed to be a leader in the lockerroom.

Perhaps in Wyatt's case, perhaps he has a few holes in his wrestling?
all of this sounds logical and understandable but then you look at the main event that just happened

Wyatt has flaws of course, but Reigns has shown nothing that warrants him getting the push he has

(hence every single person's problem with the whole affair)
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Old 04-04-2016, 12:17 AM   #1716
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Worst Mania ever. Holy shit.
THERE it is!
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Old 04-04-2016, 12:17 AM   #1717
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So you're reasoning is basically "At least he's not Jack Swagger!"?
I'm just saying that screen time is better than no screen time, and air-time with main event legends is better than air time with mid-carders.

League of Nations, New Day, and the Wyatt Family were picked for Austin, HBK, Foley, Cena, and Rocky for a reason.

But hey - if you think you know more than the WWE, the more power to you.
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I get what Heyman is saying and I agree with it in a vacuum - being featured every week is the goal. However, at some point you can't just be a side piece all the time or you won't be featured every week. You need to evolve in some manner.
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Bottom line for tonight's show is the standard WWE: One step forward, two steps back.
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I'm just saying that screen time is better than no screen time, and air-time with main event legends is better than air time with mid-carders.

League of Nations, New Day, and the Wyatt Family were picked for Austin, HBK, Foley, Cena, and Rocky for a reason.

But hey - if you think you know more than the WWE, the more power to you.
Yeah, WWE's booking decisions are always top notch because they're WWE. Forgot.

I think giving a diva a farting gimmick is fucking stupid, too. But it's CLEARLY genius because WWE knows better than me.
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