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Old 07-11-2015, 08:02 PM   #1
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The Usos are pretty much the only Mania tag match material though, so there has to be some leeway.
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Old 07-11-2015, 09:06 PM   #2
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The Usos are pretty much the only Mania tag match material though, so there has to be some leeway.
Hmm, true, although I'm sure more teams will pop up. I'd argue that Harper & Rowan are credible enough to be considered for the spot. And The New Day are pretty much guaranteed to be on the main shows these days.
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Old 07-11-2015, 08:06 PM   #3
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Usos vs Lucha Dragons

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Harper/Rowan vs The Dudley Boyz

Either match will work fine for me.
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Old 07-11-2015, 09:43 PM   #4
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Oh yeah, Harper/Rowan could definitely be Mania match material.... They have had some "classic"/"good" matches with The Usos already....
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Yeah, I'm thinking they could get a Mania opener spot or something.
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Hopefully Harper and Rowan stay as a team once Rowan recovers from his injury over the next few months. I imagine Harper will flounder as a solo act in the midcard until then (he shouldn't flounder, but I don't trust WWE to do much of substance with him).
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Old 07-11-2015, 10:21 PM   #7
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Harper could very easily be Seth Rollins's next insurance policy.
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Old 07-19-2015, 09:54 AM   #8
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Harper could very easily be Seth Rollins's next insurance policy.


I like this idea a lot.


You know what I think would be cool actually? If at some point in the future, Rollins brought on Harper, and then eventually brought in Rowan as well. Harper and Rowan would be Rollins' new henchmen. Get rid of JJ Security, and everyone else.


Somewhere down the road, you have Ambrose, Reigns, and a newly created face in Bray Wyatt going up against Rollins, Harper, and Rowan.
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I like this idea a lot.


You know what I think would be cool actually? If at some point in the future, Rollins brought on Harper, and then eventually brought in Rowan as well. Harper and Rowan would be Rollins' new henchmen. Get rid of JJ Security, and everyone else.


Somewhere down the road, you have Ambrose, Reigns, and a newly created face in Bray Wyatt going up against Rollins, Harper, and Rowan.
I like the idea of Bray Wyatt turning face to try and reclaim his family.
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Old 07-12-2015, 10:35 AM   #10
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Old 07-14-2015, 08:06 PM   #11
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Watching RAW makes me think that Seth Rollins vs. Triple H or Seth Rollins vs. Kane is a go. OK.
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Several people here having a pop at me for suggesting an Undertaker v Lesnar rematch for WM32 yet according to the news stories, WWE is seriously considering this as a possibility.

Doesn't look so stupid now does it?
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Old 07-17-2015, 11:16 AM   #13
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Doesn't look so stupid now does it?
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still looks stupid
Incredibly stupid.
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Old 07-17-2015, 11:16 AM   #15
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Really sick of these yearly "Undertaker's Wrestlemania opponent" reports. Mad respect to the Undertaker, but it's fucking over. Move on and let other people shine. I have no interest in seeing Undertaker vs Lesnar again, and there's nobody on the roster at "that level" that looks like a viable threat to the non-streak anyway.

I also have no interest in Rollin's vs. Triple H. Same thing as 'Taker. Triple H hasn't been a full-time active roster member for about four years now, yet always seems to find himself in storylines where he's called to in-ring action at Wrestlemania. Same shit every year.
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Really sick of these yearly "Undertaker's Wrestlemania opponent" reports. Mad respect to the Undertaker, but it's fucking over. Move on and let other people shine. I have no interest in seeing Undertaker vs Lesnar again, and there's nobody on the roster at "that level" that looks like a viable threat to the non-streak anyway.

I also have no interest in Rollin's vs. Triple H. Same thing as 'Taker. Triple H hasn't been a full-time active roster member for about four years now, yet always seems to find himself in storylines where he's called to in-ring action at Wrestlemania. Same shit every year.
Well WWE need to stimulate interest and the best way to do it is send out rumours.

People say it sounds stupid but reading the reports and alleged thoughts of WWE creative it appears there are similarities in my line of thought; Undertaker never actually addressed his loss to Brock Lesnar and both he and Heyman have been ridiculing him at times since WM 30 culminating no with turning attention to Kane.


If Undertaker is really only one more match away from retirement then send him out with a bang and either avenge that defeat to Lesnar or lose again.

Don't throw someone "new" or a rising star into the mix again. Wyatt has nosedived in importance since that loss and in fact was already nosediving since the Cena loss at WM 30. Wyatt's only "significant" moment in recent times was when he eliminated Bryan from the RR.


I also suggested Undertaker v Sting at a PPV other than WM as I suspect neither men would want a loss at WM 32. Summer Slam would be great but I think the Survivor Series would be better, build it up for months etc.

Also Survivor Series is where both stars made their debuts so would hold that significance as it were.


Undertaker v Brock Lesnar WM 32 seems to be the way.
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People say it sounds stupid but reading the reports and alleged thoughts of WWE creative it appears there are similarities in my line of thought;
so this is why the product is quite bad... hmmm...
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so this is why the product is quite bad... hmmm...
Would probably be much better if I had full creative control.
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If they ever want to do Taker vs. Sting, do it on its own Network special and base it entirely around their careers or something. No need to clog-up WrestleMania with that booking nightmare. If Taker vs. Lesnar Modern II is going to happen, then SummerSlam is probably the best bet.
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Just doesn't make sense to build up Lesnar for two years just to lose to Taker.

The only logic I can come up with is if Lesnar was champ coming into Mania, and you had Taker challenge him, people would think Taker would win and retire, but you just have Lesnar destroy him. However, with Lesnar as a face now, that booking doesn't work.

Depending where they go with Owens, I could see him as a logical opponent for Taker, but again, I feel like he should go over. Owens should be being built up to headline.

Cena could lose to Taker and not get hurt by it. Sting would make some sense. I hate the idea of Kane, because it would be God awful. Rollins could be alright.
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Simple solution: Have 'Taker show up at Battleground, he tombstones Lesnar, pulls Rollins over him, gets the ref to come to in time to make the 3 count. The next night on RAW, 'Taker solidifies his heel turn with a badass promo saying that he didn't care when Noble and Mercury were taken out by Brock, but when he attacked and injured his brother, Kane he got pissed and asked Steph and Triple H to allow him to join on with The Authority as a replacement bodyguard and protector of Rollins. They agreed, and so now, almost 1 1/2 years later he's back, not just to protect the champ, but to rip him apart and end his career not just for what happened in WM XXX, but also for daring to assault Kane.
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Why would Taker want to protect Seth when Seth attacked Kane as well?
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Realization that Seth only attacked him in the heat of the moment, and besides they made up anyway.
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Here's what I'd do even though this has zero chance of happening:


Main-event: Cesaro vs. Lesnar


Taker's last match: Undertaker vs. John Cena


Tag match: Triple H/Stephanie vs. The Rock/Ronda


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Old 07-19-2015, 11:20 AM   #27
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Have the Ut interfere by taking out Rollins after a pedigree on Lesnar costing Lesnar the match leaving a pissed off Lesnar in the ring. Monday rolls around and Heyman is out alone talking about how the Taker broke the 11th commandment and how that wasn't too bright considering the beating he took the last time. HAve the Taker appear on the tron talkign about how it wasn't person just taking care of family business and he ain't done yet. After that have Lesnar jumping through hoops to get a rematch while also chasing after the Understaker leading to a triple threat at SumerSlam. After that I get a little lost..

WM32
Cena/Reigns for US title
Owens/Lesnar for WWE World Heavyweight Title
Rollins/Taker
Cesaro/Ambrose WWE Intercontinental Title
HHH/Sting II - Maybe have Taker cost Sting the match out of frustration over losing to Rollins in a close one due to something or other
Barrett/RTruth Sceptre on a pole match with winner becoming the "undisputed" king of the WWE
Stephanie and the Bellas/Ronda Rousey, Charlotte and Paige
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The guy who beats Lesnar should be "face of the company" material. Neither Cesaro or Rollins is that guy.

As much as I love Ryback, I'm not sure they can successfully salvage him and realistically get him back to that level he was at when he was first getting hot.

Whoever it is, they need to start methodically booking them on an upward climb now and have it happen at WrestleMania.
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The guy who beats Lesnar should be "face of the company" material. Neither Cesaro or Rollins is that guy.

As much as I love Ryback, I'm not sure they can successfully salvage him and realistically get him back to that level he was at when he was first getting hot.

Whoever it is, they need to start methodically booking them on an upward climb now and have it happen at WrestleMania.


So if it's not Cesaro, Rollins, or Ryback, then who is that guy?


The WWE wanted it to be Reigns, but he was too green.


Daniel Bryan's career is in serious jeopardy and so he's likely out.


WWE's best bet might be to re-push Randy Orton for the umpteenth time.....as erroneous as that may be. The WWE can play it off as 'after all these years', Orton is finally starting to realize the potential that Triple H initially saw in him.
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So if it's not Cesaro, Rollins, or Ryback, then who is that guy?


The WWE wanted it to be Reigns, but he was too green.


Daniel Bryan's career is in serious jeopardy and so he's likely out.


WWE's best bet might be to re-push Randy Orton for the umpteenth time.....as erroneous as that may be. The WWE can play it off as 'after all these years', Orton is finally starting to realize the potential that Triple H initially saw in him.
Orton actually is probably the best option but they should have rolled with it years ago. I think he's too far into his career to be "the future".

There are one or two guys on the lower rung who have the look, the size, the mic skills, the charisma and the in-ring skills to be the face of the company. They're miles away from that level though. They'd have to change their character up, push them out of nowhere and go all in with the push without the start-stop bullshit.

... Of course, I'm referring to Johnny Curtis. The one man WWE has dropped the ball with worse than Ryback.
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Orton actually is probably the best option but they should have rolled with it years ago. I think he's too far into his career to be "the future".

There are one or two guys on the lower rung who have the look, the size, the mic skills, the charisma and the in-ring skills to be the face of the company. They're miles away from that level though. They'd have to change their character up, push them out of nowhere and go all in with the push without the start-stop bullshit.

... Of course, I'm referring to Johnny Curtis. The one man WWE has dropped the ball with worse than Ryback.
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Orton actually is probably the best option but they should have rolled with it years ago. I think he's too far into his career to be "the future".

Definitely agree. However - I wouldn't want to put the strap on Orton as a way of pegging him as "the future." At this stage in the game, Orton is way too 'saturated' for that. I want Orton to be champ so that he can carry the company afloat while the WWE tries to find their "next John Cena" (whether that comes in the form of a new-and-improved Roman Reigns, Kevin Owens, etc.). My 'vision' is that maybe you have a guy like Orton be the 'top face' for the company in 2016, and then have someone like Reigns, or Owens eventually take top billing in 2017 after Mania'.


As far as guys like Johnny Curtis goes, I hope the WWE learned their lesson (i.e. do NOT bring up NXT talent to the "big leagues" unless you have a clear cut vision of how you are going to push said character. Don't come up with dumb shit! REALLY take the time to think about the character).
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Yeah sad thing is, is nobody is ready.
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Yeah sad thing is, is nobody is ready.
I think Cena and Orton need to get injured at the same time for 2-3 months and force the issue. The have the talent, they do not have the faith or competent bookers ....
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Thing about Orton is I don't think HHH will ever have him look better than he is.
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It's a shame as well. The WWE had two golden opportunities to really make something out of Orton and failed both times:


1) Orton's premature face turn after Summerslam 2004. WWE should have pushed Orton as a 'cool heel' as they did with The Rock in 98/99 (i.e. a heel that gets massively cheered by the fans). Evolution should have kicked HHH out of the group, and Orton should have been the new leader..........with Batista going over heel Orton at Wrestlemania 21.


2) That one Wrestlemania where Orton fought Hunter - no way Hunter should have gone over. Orton, with Legacy, should have easily beaten The Game. The week before Wrestlemania, Orton should have been able to kick Stephanie in the head to add to his massive heeldom. Legacy was way the fuck over during this time period and it got squashed.
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It's a shame as well. The WWE had two golden opportunities to really make something out of Orton and failed both times:


1) Orton's premature face turn after Summerslam 2004. WWE should have pushed Orton as a 'cool heel' as they did with The Rock in 98/99 (i.e. a heel that gets massively cheered by the fans). Evolution should have kicked HHH out of the group, and Orton should have been the new leader..........with Batista going over heel Orton at Wrestlemania 21.


2) That one Wrestlemania where Orton fought Hunter - no way Hunter should have gone over. Orton, with Legacy, should have easily beaten The Game. The week before Wrestlemania, Orton should have been able to kick Stephanie in the head to add to his massive heeldom. Legacy was way the fuck over during this time period and it got squashed.
I agree on the second instance for sure. They fought @ WM 25, and the damn WWE Championship was on the line! Orton definitely deserved to be pushed.

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Ambrose was soooo over and a perfect main-event protagonist...they have no idea what to do with him now though.
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