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Old 09-04-2006, 06:00 PM   #2921
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hey miz, i missed Gustavo's game yesterday. How'd he pitch?
 
Old 09-04-2006, 06:02 PM   #2922
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I hear Chacin took his A-game out there, pity the Jays have been out of it for 2 months eh
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Old 09-04-2006, 06:03 PM   #2923
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Also wtf happened to Vernon Wells? He looked like he was on for a 40/120 type season, his BA is still the hots so he can'tve slumped that much
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Old 09-04-2006, 06:37 PM   #2924
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Old 09-04-2006, 06:38 PM   #2925
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Also wtf happened to Vernon Wells? He looked like he was on for a 40/120 type season, his BA is still the hots so he can'tve slumped that much
He never really slumped. I've always said he's peak was 35 hr and 100 rbi's
 
Old 09-04-2006, 06:54 PM   #2926
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Old 09-04-2006, 07:02 PM   #2927
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Chacin for Cy Young
 
Old 09-04-2006, 08:20 PM   #2928
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Mike Lowell has 5 errors in 129 games, 17 HRs and .290 batting average, so I don't know what you are talking about there. I guess you are probably really happy the Red Sox kids have shut up or something though, since the Boston Red Sox really do bother you a lot for some reason. NEXT YEAR IS THE YEAR
Yeah man errors are an awesome way to determine the gold glove. Chavez is so much better than him its ridiculous, Lowell is definately above average but Chavez and Rolen are just in a league of their own, best defensive 3Bs since Mike Schmidt. Joe Crede is also better.

He had a nice offensive season but his numbers are not that of the other candidates. Jim Thome, Frank Thomas > Mike Lowell
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hey miz, i missed Gustavo's game yesterday. How'd he pitch?
Let's wait until Chacin has more than one good start. One good start against the Pawtucket Red Sox (no Ortiz or Manny) does not outweigh getting raped by Tampa Bay and Baltimore the first 3 months of the season.
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Old 09-04-2006, 09:11 PM   #2931
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Let's wait until Chacin has more than one good start. One good start against the Pawtucket Red Sox (no Ortiz or Manny) does not outweigh getting raped by Tampa Bay and Baltimore the first 3 months of the season.
no runs in his last 10 + innings
 
Old 09-04-2006, 09:15 PM   #2932
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I love all your random comments that don't respond to my posts. Let me lay it out for you:

CHACIN HAS HAD ONE GOOD START. IT WAS AGAINST A SHITTY LINEUP WHO HAS STOPPED CARING.

You were wrong about Chacin being better than Blanton, wrong about Gaudin being shit, wrong about the Jays being more than a mediocre team. Just stop.
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Old 09-04-2006, 09:20 PM   #2933
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Old 09-04-2006, 09:56 PM   #2934
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CHACIN HAS HAD ONE GOOD START. IT WAS AGAINST A SHITTY LINEUP WHO HAS STOPPED CARING.

You were wrong about Chacin being better than Blanton, wrong about Gaudin being shit, wrong about the Jays being more than a mediocre team. Just stop.
did u miss his start against the indians? i believe so. Now that chacin is healthy he'll continue to show why he's a better pitcher than Blanton
 
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"Continue" to show why? What the hell has he ever done in the past to show he was better than Blanton?
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Old 09-04-2006, 10:52 PM   #2938
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Jays are the 8th best team in the AL right now. Which, as we all know, is the only league that counts. Therefore being #8 out of 30 is hardly mediocre. They will finish better than 8th to boot. They are spectacular.
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That would be eight out of 14, not eight out of 30
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There are 30 teams in MLB. The NL's 16 are all shit, therefore even a team like the KC Royals are #14 out of 30.

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Yeah man errors are an awesome way to determine the gold glove.
Alright way to take what I said out of context. Lowell is pretty amazing on the defensive side of the ball, saying that he could possibly be a Gold Glove canidate is not a ridiculous statement at all. I think hes a little bit better than Above Average, he is really good.
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Old 09-05-2006, 01:30 AM   #2942
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Will be pretty funny if the Jays are happy about ending up ahead of the Paw Sox for 2nd place in the AL East...Sweet losers attitude
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Old 09-05-2006, 12:19 PM   #2943
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How about some love for the above .500 Florida Marlins.
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Old 09-05-2006, 01:57 PM   #2945
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Hey Miz, what happened to your precious MARINERS yesterday, did they get PWN'D by DETROIT OH I AM SO SORRY--NOT!

But on the good side at least the Tig's will @ least equal their 85-77 record from 1993.
 
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I still think the Tigers will do a Seattle and bomb in the playoffs.
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Tigers have good pitching, so.... well who ever knows.
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Why does Gibbons keep pulling Halladay once he gets the lead? For the life of me, I can't understand this guy. IN Halladay's last 3or4 starts, the bullpen has blown the lead he fought all game to get. Oh, or Rios throws the ball into the stands after semi catching it, causing it to become a 2 run HR. I know wins aren't the true measure of a pitcher, but I feel for Halladay, because he's deserving of 20 win seasons. He's deserving of those traditional milestones.

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Alright way to take what I said out of context. Lowell is pretty amazing on the defensive side of the ball, saying that he could possibly be a Gold Glove canidate is not a ridiculous statement at all. I think hes a little bit better than Above Average, he is really good.
Just checked out the stats since I hadn't looked yet, Lowell has .987 FPCT (.004 behind Chavez) with 53 more chances. Not saying this makes him a lock or something since it doesn't, but I still don't see how saying Lowell should get the Gold Glove is ridiculous.
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Old 09-05-2006, 11:19 PM   #2955
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I just noticed I am in a discussion about a Gold Glove while saying I don't care about the MVP lol, kinda weird

But like I said about the MVP is true about the Gold Glove, people aren't gonna think Chavez is miles ahead of Lowell or Crede if he wins or vice versa - so even that is kind of dumb now that I look at it.
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Old 09-05-2006, 11:23 PM   #2956
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You're just saying all this because David Ortiz isn't going to win it again.
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It isn't even close. Chavez and Rolen are in a completely different class among third-basemen; they will go down as 2 of the greatest ever. Lowell is good but fielding percentage stats aren't going to tell you how good a guy is at turning a double play, how his range is, etc. All things that anyone could see Chavez > Lowell.

Fielding is not hitting, there still aren't any good metrics out there.
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Nah I already stated I don't care if Ortiz even won it (pretty sure in this thread too) I don't think Ortiz would get enough votes to win even if he did have a monster season since he is a DH.

Actaully the only reason I'd wish Ortiz would win it is so a player from the Yankees couldn't. If Jeter does end up winning it though, hopefully he comes off his MVP season by leading the league in errors the next season.
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Chavez and Rolen maybe 2 of the bests, but saying Lowell isn't a canidate for the Gold Glove this season is pretty dumb when he has been making pretty amazing plays this entire year.
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