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Old 02-23-2011, 12:00 AM   #1
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Wait a minute: John Cena KILLS The Rock and it gets ignored?
@ 6:00 if you do not want to wait.



Seriously, this deserves it's own thread, not just a mention, not a Cena mark, but so far The Rock vs John Cena, and Cena is up one after this reply, classic and great come back.



The Rock replies Feb 28th



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Old 02-23-2011, 12:02 AM   #2
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Wrestlemania host, that's your role, you tell these people that you love them, I here every week to show it...
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Cenas promo was dedicated strictly to the Rock.

Rocks promo was a return where he touched on a lot of points including John Cena.

IMO, its not the same thing. I'll form an opinion when Rock retorts.
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I was talking truth, you left us high and dry to play a fairy with a tooth? And you walk in this ring and tell these people that I'm lame man, he wore lipstick in get shory and rocked a skirt for the game plan. This fruity pebble that your dealing with, I'm not your average jabroni, I'm like a big purple pinwheel rock, go ahead and blow me.
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Old 02-23-2011, 12:14 AM   #5
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Well, it's a good thing I didn't start a thread about this, but I did just post in the RAW thread, so still I must say: "DAMMIT!"
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Old 02-23-2011, 12:19 AM   #6
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On to something else besides HHH/Taker...

Something else happened on RAW that went largely unnoticed, and that was Cena's "freestyle" promo. Now it wasn't so much the promo itself that I want to point out, but the style. Nevermind that the PG poster boy went to a few things he would have disqualifed Punk and Barrett for in that match a few weeks ago, but one thing that I wanted to point out was his change in tone for the delivery.

For a brief moment, he went back to the Cena the haters are holding out for. He ditched the "happy go lucky" and "poopie joke" Cena to the stance of taking Rock's comments seriously.

It's good to see some of that edge back in the character, even for just a moment, but I for one just wish this would have happened vs. Nexus instead of just folding them into comedy relief and keeping kid-friendly Cena during "the greatest threat ever to WWE". So, 7 guys constantly jumping your star player and even making him their bitch for a couple weeks doesn't harden him at all, but a few insults from The People's Champ makes him get all serious? I know it seems like I just contradicted how I feel about what happened in the same paragraph, but I'm just sayin'... it was great to see Ruck Fules Cena for a second, just wish it was done a little sooner to make more sense on the whole and maybe quell some of the backlash against the guy.

Anyone else have any thoughts?
Yes, It's posted in two threads AND I quoted myself to put it here. !3MTA3

Jokes aside, I really am curious as to what other people think about this... aside from the obligatory "IT DOESN'T MATTER..." someone's bound to throw in.
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And your electrifying YES! But hang with me that's just obscured, see now you gotta tell your family you just got schooled by Barney's turd. Oh no no, wait wait, thats your material, you can have your joke back, just don't go race to witch mountain rock, cause your mountain is broke back.
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That was pretty incredible. Cena one-upped The Rock.
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Cenas promo was dedicated strictly to the Rock.

Rocks promo was a return where he touched on a lot of points including John Cena.

IMO, its not the same thing. I'll form an opinion when Rock retorts.
Whatever man, Cena still might be the only man in history to actually one-up The Rock on the mic, give credit where credit is due.
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Old 02-23-2011, 12:32 AM   #10
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The bad thing is half of that was a bastardized Eminem rap olympics rhyme from like '97/'98-ish, yet still managed to be clever.
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Oh no no wait wait, the rocks new movie, well its nothing like walking tall, he spends the movie in the bowling alley polishing my balls. The peoples champ, he's never with the people, rock your words are see thru, you imitate me every time you leave, for seven years we couldn't see you.
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Whatever man, Cena still might be the only man in history to actually one-up The Rock on the mic, give credit where credit is due.
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The promo screamed the final rap battle of 8 Mile.. idk why.
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Dunno. Seems like anybody could have "one-upped" The Rock. Not saying Cena didn't do a good job...

But you got plenty of material to work with, what with the terrible movies he has made and his abandonment of WWE for 7 years to make them.
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It was alright, but it was still the same gay and poop jokes in a "you sold out" wrapper. I'm just surprised he didn't throw a package of peanuts at Cole and make a vintage DEEZ NUTZ joke.
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I thought it was pretty awesome tbh, but I def. don't think he "one-upped" The Rock. IF anything, they're even now.
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I thought it was pretty awesome tbh, but I def. don't think he "one-upped" The Rock. IF anything, they're even now.
Juan, quit being nice just because he is your cousin.
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It was alright, but it was still the same gay and poop jokes in a "you sold out" wrapper. I'm just surprised he didn't throw a package of peanuts at Cole and make a vintage DEEZ NUTZ joke.
Methinks the pinwheel served that purpose.
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It was good, but I hope he can show that he can burn somebody up like that without doing a "rap". If, and God willing, they do a back-and-forth on it. Cena will get his ass eaten alive on RAW if he can't do more than a long winded rap with props.
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Methinks the pinwheel served that purpose.
I'd mark out if he pulled a glass jar of peanuts out of his jorts and hurls it at Michael Cole like he is Roger Clemens.
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Fuck you people. The promo was good, it's what everyone has been screaming for him to do for about 4 years now. And now it's too cool to enjoy it because The Rock came back and cut an old school promo.. Yep, wouldn't be TPWW if it was any other way.
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It was alright, but it was still the same gay and poop jokes in a "you sold out" wrapper. I'm just surprised he didn't throw a package of peanuts at Cole and make a vintage DEEZ NUTZ joke.
You're right. Rock and Cena should stop this promo war before it gets going and bond over their love of gay jokes.

I loved it. If it wasn't The Rocks return last week and it was just a promo on Cena to build to Wrestlemania, I think I would have enjoyed Cena's a lot more.
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It was good, but it isn't like he tore the fucking house down. He didn't destroy The Rock.
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I wouldn't think of it as Cena "killing" The Rock but Cena's response to the trash talking the Rock did to him last week.

It was very good compared to the usual Cena promo and is similar to how Batista helped Cena produce some of his best promos since moving to Raw years ago.

What Cena said was true but at the same time Cena's movies haven't been as strong as The Rock for him to even consider leaving as an option. The Rock had the acting option because it was producing equal or more to what he was making in the WWE and didn't need a while to adjust financially.
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It was good, but I hope he can show that he can burn somebody up like that without doing a "rap". If, and God willing, they do a back-and-forth on it. Cena will get his ass eaten alive on RAW if he can't do more than a long winded rap with props.
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It was a great promo, and it was everything that made me fall in love with John Cena in 2003-2004 but I disagree with everything John Cena said content wise. He said it well, but he's still a piece of shit for saying it. As a lifetime fan of the WWF I have seen what has happened to the people who didn't know when it was time to retire, move on and try something different. In short this industry is TOXIC and John Cena is on the wrong side of the fence on this issue. Also he doesn't have the stink of WWE failure from after the end of the Attitude era, so the WWE will now benefit from The Rock's good name reputation in the world of entertainment. He left and it was the perfect opportunity for him to leave and John Cena can't be serious in trash talking him to do the best thing for the Rock's and his family's future. John Cena missed the birth of his nephew, is that something we want to praise? No, he's a scumbag for missing it and he's a scumbag for not taking his "fired" time off to spend time with his wife and his brother's newly created family.

The Rock had a golden opportunity to reach for the brass ring in Hollywood and he had the balls to go for it. The Rock could have been just another failed actor like Hollywood Hulk Hogan or somebody who is known for only one really good movie like Rowdy Roddy Piper.

I disagree that the Rock "sold out" his fans and I just think Cena said that years old just to get The Rock into another match. The Rock was never able to fight Shawn Michaels, but he didn't insult Shawn Michaels in public to try to draw him out. He was probably upset that The Rock brought in all of the ratings for all of those years and Cena hasn't. Cena has seen the decline of the empire that the Rock, NOT Cena help built. If anything Cena has been one of the reasons for the decline.

Also let me point out that the Rock was the most SELFLESS WWE Champion that I can remember. When The Rock was the champion for the first time he could have ran with the title all the way to WrestleMania for his fight with Stone Cold: he didn't. The Rock and Mankind had a great rivarly that gave Mankind somebody who would probably never win the title under other circumstances two championship reigns and Royal Rumble title match that will go down as one of the greatest in the long history of the Rumble.

When Brock Lesnar was getting the then quickest push in WWE history who gave up another chance of a long run as champion to make him look like a million bucks in Summerslam? That's right; The Rock. It is things like that make the Rock a 7-time champion but only having 297 days as the champion. The Rock knew that he was only one person and that by pushing everybody as far as they could they all would triuphum. John Cena is all about "me myself and I." Fuck you John Cena.
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Whatever man, Cena still might be the only man in history to actually one-up The Rock on the mic, give credit where credit is due.

OK in all honesty I'm still giving this one to The Rock for a few reasons, first of

Its one thing to "diss" someone in a rhyme scheme its quite another to lay into someone by just talking which is what Rock did it takes a certain quick wit to have clever put downs in casual speaking format. Not saying rapping is easy, putdowns (or at least Cenas) arent as jarring as they would be if he was simply addressing the crowd.

Second ALL of Cenas material is predictable and lacks any real creativity

example a typical Cena putdown goes like this (in deep wigger voice) blah

blah blah homosexual joke blah blah blah rhyme referencing my balls/and or anus blah blah blah something that rhymes with you cant see me.

the only point that actually stung was the "seven yrs we couldn't see u"part
the rest was Cena by the numbers IMO.

Oh yea as far as films go Rock could always point out that Cenas Films make sure that straight to dvd bin is at least half full.
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Old 02-23-2011, 03:10 AM   #28
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It was a great promo, and it was everything that made me fall in love with John Cena in 2003-2004 but I disagree with everything John Cena said content wise. He said it well, but he's still a piece of shit for saying it. As a lifetime fan of the WWF I have seen what has happened to the people who didn't know when it was time to retire, move on and try something different. In short this industry is TOXIC and John Cena is on the wrong side of the fence on this issue. Also he doesn't have the stink of WWE failure from after the end of the Attitude era, so the WWE will now benefit from The Rock's good name reputation in the world of entertainment. He left and it was the perfect opportunity for him to leave and John Cena can't be serious in trash talking him to do the best thing for the Rock's and his family's future. John Cena missed the birth of his nephew, is that something we want to praise? No, he's a scumbag for missing it and he's a scumbag for not taking his "fired" time off to spend time with his wife and his brother's newly created family.

The Rock had a golden opportunity to reach for the brass ring in Hollywood and he had the balls to go for it. The Rock could have been just another failed actor like Hollywood Hulk Hogan or somebody who is known for only one really good movie like Rowdy Roddy Piper.

I disagree that the Rock "sold out" his fans and I just think Cena said that years old just to get The Rock into another match. The Rock was never able to fight Shawn Michaels, but he didn't insult Shawn Michaels in public to try to draw him out. He was probably upset that The Rock brought in all of the ratings for all of those years and Cena hasn't. Cena has seen the decline of the empire that the Rock, NOT Cena help built. If anything Cena has been one of the reasons for the decline.

Also let me point out that the Rock was the most SELFLESS WWE Champion that I can remember. When The Rock was the champion for the first time he could have ran with the title all the way to WrestleMania for his fight with Stone Cold: he didn't. The Rock and Mankind had a great rivarly that gave Mankind somebody who would probably never win the title under other circumstances two championship reigns and Royal Rumble title match that will go down as one of the greatest in the long history of the Rumble.

When Brock Lesnar was getting the then quickest push in WWE history who gave up another chance of a long run as champion to make him look like a million bucks in Summerslam? That's right; The Rock. It is things like that make the Rock a 7-time champion but only having 297 days as the champion. The Rock knew that he was only one person and that by pushing everybody as far as they could they all would triuphum. John Cena is all about "me myself and I." Fuck you John Cena.
Lolllllllllllllll. It was fucking scripted by the writers you dumb shit, probably cleared by The Rock so it was fine to say. "I HATE CENA FOR SAYING IT". I just burst out laughing at work.

Love or hate John Cena's character (you know, as wrestling is a scripted television program), he is probably one of the best company men they've ever had in an elevated position. I'd be willing to bet that Cena would put anyone over if asked.
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Lolllllllllllllll. It was fucking scripted by the writers you dumb shit, probably cleared by The Rock so it was fine to say. "I HATE CENA FOR SAYING IT". I just burst out laughing at work.

Love or hate John Cena's character (you know, as wrestling is a scripted television program), he is probably one of the best company men they've ever had in an elevated position. I'd be willing to bet that Cena would put anyone over if asked.
Just ask Sheamus
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Old 02-23-2011, 03:28 AM   #30
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Cena didn't kill Rock, but it was an awesome performance. How could the promo be Cena by the numbers when he hasn't said that stuff for 6 years?
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Cena didn't kill Rock, but it was an awesome performance. How could the promo be Cena by the numbers when he hasn't said that stuff for 6 years?
When he geared up I knew where it was headed.Granted I haven't seen this movie in six years but all the same I've seen this movie before.

If you get my meaning
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Please. Cena is terrible.

Obviously he would put anyone over, Hasney. He's been booked like Hulk Hogan for six years and knows the company would have nothing to gain by jobbing him out, and even if they did who cares? He's the focal point of their film studios. He's sleeping in tubs full of money. Also, that segment was certainly scripted, but I have a hard time believing he was provoked by creative to give those retarded opinions on The Rock during his MTV interview a couple of years ago. He might be being scripted to run with it now that Rocky is back in the fold, but he owns those statements and I can't recall him ever "taking them back." Love or hate Cena's character, this guy is an overpaid meathead who loves the smell of his own stink, and you can't help but think that when he was blabbering about how "he would never leave the WWE or it's fans LIKE THE ROCK DID!," he probably had some feeling of self-righteousness for saying it.

Sure, the way SlickyTrickDamon is taking that segment personally is a bit silly, but there's an important point in there that we shouldn't miss: Fuck John Cena.
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Both guys gave the better promos of their careers in the past 2 weeks, both have been excellent, who cares who's winning in a promo war?

This has been great TV, WWE has done a fantastic job recently in making me want to watch the product and talk about it again.

Good job!
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Define "Terrible". And terrible to who, the larger WWE audience, or the IWC who make up a small number?
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I guess the word I was really looking for was "atrocious".

Atrocious
-exceptionally bad or displeasing; "atrocious taste"; "abominable workmanship"; "an awful voice"; "dreadful manners"; "a painful performance"; "terrible handwriting"; "an unspeakable odor came sweeping into the room"

I'm sure all of those examples qualify here. Also, atrocious to the latter I guess, though I will tell you that I haven't met a person in my age group(i'm 25) that doesn't dislike John Cena.
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Both guys gave the better promos of their careers in the past 2 weeks, both have been excellent, who cares who's winning in a promo war?

This has been great TV, WWE has done a fantastic job recently in making me want to watch the product and talk about it again.

Good job!

This^^^

The Rock returning surprised me because I don't read dirt sheets anymore. So seeing he returned I watched.

I enjoyed Rocks promo, I enjoyed Cenas and so I might buy wWestlemania for the first time in 4 years.

Good job WWE


Favre4eva, im 23 and I enjoy Cena... Just saying.
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Cena didn't kill, but come on... even the biggest Cena haters HAD to enjoy that just a little bit.

I just marked out for the wrestler I've hated for years... that's entertainment.
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Cenas promo was dedicated strictly to the Rock.

Rocks promo was a return where he touched on a lot of points including John Cena.

IMO, its not the same thing. I'll form an opinion when Rock retorts.

I agree. Cena's was pretty brutal but The Rock could counter with something as equally brutal. Kind of hoping The Rock doesn't say anything and instead saves it for Mania, at which time he will lay the smackdown on Cena.

Actually I don't want to see them wrestle or even 'get into it' at Mania or elsewhere because there is no way they would let the Rock go over on Cena.
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Bonus points if he does it out of nowhere when Cole is "overheeling"
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I honestly think they are doing this now to build Cena/Rock at Mania next year in Miami, as it's Rock's home town.

They are clearly going to do something with this, and 6 weeks isn't enough build for something of this size.

I'm not saying it's going to be 12 months of solid build, but sowing seeds every now and then with a strong 3 month build after next years rumble
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