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Old 10-24-2011, 10:50 PM   #1
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How do shitty workers keep getting over JUST because they have a catch phrase?

Looking at you Zack Ryder...


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Old 10-24-2011, 10:54 PM   #2
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He got over for his internet show, not the catch phrase.
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Old 10-24-2011, 10:54 PM   #3
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Old 10-24-2011, 10:55 PM   #4
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yo when are you gonna cash in that briefcase destor
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Old 10-24-2011, 10:56 PM   #5
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yo when are you gonna cash in that briefcase destor
after i get a catch phrase
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Old 10-24-2011, 10:55 PM   #6
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Ken KEnnedy and The MIz also spring to mind
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Old 10-25-2011, 01:15 AM   #7
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Ken KEnnedy and The MIz also spring to mind
These two don't spring to my mind when I think shitty worker.
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Old 10-24-2011, 10:55 PM   #8
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Road Dogg...
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Old 10-25-2011, 04:42 AM   #9
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Road Dogg...
Him.

Road Dogg was SHIT as a wrestler. All he had was that Michael Buffer rip-off intro.
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Old 10-25-2011, 04:07 PM   #10
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Road Dogg...
To be fair, Road Dogg got over at a point in time where the crowd was so hot they would have creamed themselves for the hot dog vendor if he wrestled a match. And if he had a catchphrase, he'd probably be bigger'n Jesus.
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Old 10-24-2011, 10:57 PM   #11
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well u gotta cash it in before the next money in the bank
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Old 10-24-2011, 10:59 PM   #12
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If Ryder is a poor worker than Cena really is the best in the world.
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Old 10-25-2011, 04:14 PM   #13
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well u gotta cash it in before the next money in the bank
This just made me think of something.

What if they allowed it to be cashed in at any point in the future. Then the same person won it two years in a row.

They end up winning the WHC and have a Money in The Bank Shot.

So somewheres down the line, the guy loses his title in a brutal epic match at Mania and after staggering to his feet and the victor heading up the ramp he yells.

"Hey _____ you have my title, I think you should come back here"

the camera pans in on the winners face as he realizes, he turns and looks at the loser in the ring with the MITB case.

Round 2, where the guy who lost it wins it back.
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Old 10-24-2011, 10:58 PM   #14
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i got time...gonna do what the rock did and hire personal writers to come up with my meterial THEN ITS BRIEFCASE TIME
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Old 10-24-2011, 10:59 PM   #15
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After a pin attempt you should scream at the ref "I HAVE TILL THREE"

see if that or some variation of that catches on
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Old 10-24-2011, 11:03 PM   #16
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If Ryder is a poor worker than Cena really is the best in the world.
there is nothing about that logic that holds. ryder being shit does not make cena not shit.

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After a pin attempt you should scream at the ref "I HAVE TILL THREE"

see if that or some variation of that catches on
i like where you're going with this
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Old 10-24-2011, 11:44 PM   #17
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Old 10-24-2011, 11:44 PM   #18
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Zack Ryder won me over in his ECW days. Dude had awesome matches with Christian
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Old 10-24-2011, 11:45 PM   #19
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Christian is a work horse and a carrying machine.
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When I think of "shitty workers" Zack Ryder doesn't usually spring to mind tbh.
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Old 10-24-2011, 11:55 PM   #21
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"When he came out, the people cheered, and you can't teach that. They either like you or they don't"
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Old 10-24-2011, 11:57 PM   #23
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Old 10-24-2011, 11:57 PM   #24
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Old 10-25-2011, 01:05 AM   #25
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Old 10-25-2011, 01:12 AM   #26
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The Miz is not a shitty worker.
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Old 10-25-2011, 01:21 AM   #27
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Yeah, alot of those guys may not be exceptional talents, but they're not shitty. I've seen far worse ring-work and far less charisma.

At least they bring something to the table.
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Old 10-25-2011, 01:58 AM   #28
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The Rock. /thread
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lol
Not really that funny tbh. In the context of the thread that is.
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Old 10-25-2011, 04:51 AM   #31
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Not really that funny tbh. In the context of the thread that is.
Although I agree that Rock got over mostly on his mic work, to put him in the same category as Zack Ryder is a bit of a stretch.
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Although I agree that Rock got over mostly on his mic work, to put him in the same category as Zack Ryder is a bit of a stretch.
The Rock's in-ring work isn't GREAT, so WWE is really taking a risk by having him wrestle at Survivor Series, because once the novelty of seeing The Rock in the ring wears off, and he begins to actually wrestle, fans may just get bored, and turn on him...which could make for a heel turn, but still...
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Old 10-25-2011, 05:11 AM   #33
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The Rock's in-ring work isn't GREAT, so WWE is really taking a risk by having him wrestle at Survivor Series, because once the novelty of seeing The Rock in the ring wears off, and he begins to actually wrestle, fans may just get bored, and turn on him...which could make for a heel turn, but still...
All he needs to do is play the guy on the apron until Cena tags him in, and he hits all his signature moves on The Miz & R-Truth as the place goes APESHIT! Then the heels get a bit in on him, Cena makes the save, BAM! He turns around into a Rock Bottom and then The Rock walks out awaiting their match at Mania while Truth & Miz finish off Johnny Boy.

Not much of a risk.
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Old 10-26-2011, 12:01 AM   #34
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The Rock's in-ring work isn't GREAT, so WWE is really taking a risk by having him wrestle at Survivor Series, because once the novelty of seeing The Rock in the ring wears off, and he begins to actually wrestle, fans may just get bored, and turn on him...which could make for a heel turn, but still...
Actually laughing aloud at the thought of fans turning on The Rock because they "get bored" of him. It's not like he's wrestling for an hour.
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Old 10-25-2011, 05:52 AM   #35
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Although I agree that Rock got over mostly on his mic work, to put him in the same category as Zack Ryder is a bit of a stretch.
I'm in no way saying Ryder is on The Rock's level overall, but he was never that good in the ring. Would Dwayne be who he is today if he couldn't work a mic and had to get over on ring talent alone? Take away all that, I wouldn't say he's much better at all.
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I never got the Ryder thing either really. Fair enough if people want to see him, but I was thinking he's pretty funny on YouTube, but so is T-BOOOOOOONE and I'm not campaigning for him to be on Raw.
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Ryder can only ride this "Internet thingy" for so long...he'll be out of tv by Spring.
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Old 10-25-2011, 04:41 AM   #39
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Also, I'd much rather be seeing Ryder/Ziggler than Ryan/Ziggler
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Most of the guys mentioned here don't seem that shitty to me. Maybe not the best workers ever, but Ryder is definitely one of the bright spots when he gets into the ring. I loved his matches in ECW and on Superstars.
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