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Old 12-28-2013, 11:34 AM   #1
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Exclamation top ppv buys for 2013
2,200,000 - 9/14 Floyd Mayweather vs. Canelo Alvarez
1,150,000 - 12/8/12 Juan Manuel Marquez vs. Manny Pacquiao
950,000 - 3/16 UFC 158 Georges St-Pierre vs. Nick Diaz
900,000 - 5/4/ Floyd Mayweather vs. Robert Guerrero
662,000 - 4/7 WWE WrestleMania The Rock vs. John Cena
630,000 - 11/16 UFC 167 Georges St-Pierre vs. Johny Hendricks
550,000 - 7/6 UFC 162 Anderson Silva vs. Chris Weidman
530,000 - 4/27 UFC 159 Jon Jones vs. Chael Sonnen
475,000 - 11/23 Manny Pacquiao vs. Brandon Rios
450,000 - 2/23 UFC 157 Ronda Rousey vs. Liz Carmouche*
425,000 - 12/29/12 UFC 155 Junior Dos Santos vs. Cain Velasquez
380,000 - 5/25 UFC 160 Cain Velasquez vs. Bigfoot Silva
375,000 - 10/12 Timothy Bradley vs. Juan Manuel Marquez
364,000 - 1/27 WWE Royal Rumble C.M. Punk vs. The Rock
330,000 - 2/2 UFC 156 Jose Aldo vs. Frankie Edgar
330,000 - 10/19 UFC 166 Cain Velasquez vs. Junior Dos Santos
310,000 - 9/21 UFC 165 Jon Jones vs. Alexander Gustafsson
270,000 - 8/31 UFC 164 Benson Henderson vs. Anthony Pettis
185,000 - 8/18 WWE SummerSlam John Cena vs. Daniel Bryan
181,000 - 2/17 WWE Elimination Chamber C.M. Punk vs. The Rock
180,000 - 8/3 UFC 163 Jose Aldo vs. Chan Sung Jung
151,000 - 7/14 WWE Money in the Bank John Cena vs. Mark Henry
140,000 - 6/15 UFC 161 Rashad Evans vs. Dan Henderson
137,000 - 5/19 WWE Extreme Rules Brock Lesnar vs. HHH cage match
121,000 - 10/27 WWE Hell in a Cell Daniel Bryan vs. Randy Orton Hell in a Cell match
108,000 - 6/16 WWE Payback John Cena vs. Ryback 3 Stages of Hell match
95,000 - 11/24 WWE Survivor Series Randy Orton vs. Big Show
92,000 - 9/15 WWE Night of Champions Daniel Bryan vs. Randy Orton
87,000 - 10/6 WWE Battleground Daniel Bryan vs. Randy Orton
75,000 - 12/16/12 WWE TLC John Cena vs. Dolph Ziggler ladder match







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Old 12-28-2013, 11:45 AM   #2
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Is that just US or does it include international too (sorry if that's a stupid question).
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Old 12-28-2013, 11:51 AM   #3
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heard it was just north american numbers because there would be alot more for the silva weidman card in july
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Old 12-28-2013, 11:52 AM   #4
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i never saw a source but it seemed like an accurate list from what ive seen over the year
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Here's a question then.

Are there more PPV events per year now (boxing, MMA and wrestling all included, plus any musical events, etc.) than there used to be? Could it also be explained that poor PPV buy rates are down to competition (not necessarily direct, but where people have JUST $40 to spend, are they choosing the MMA or boxing over the wrestling in a given month?)

Never really got into the science, etc. behind buy rates and tv ratings.
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Old 12-28-2013, 03:00 PM   #6
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boxing always dominates

UFC numbers are arounf the usual but they are also putting on like 20 free cards a year with a handful of those being on FOX. those shows do amazing.

Down numbers for WWE may have to do with more people getting into MMA but it is most likely just poor booking on their parts.

Personally, all I can say is, I only missed like 4 total UFC cards this past year but only watched WM and a handful of RAW's.
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I'm surprised to see that SummerSlam was the WWE's third most successful PPV. Here I was thinking that it was meant to have done pretty poorly.
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Think it did compared to past years.

I think illegal streams have had a massive impact on PPV buyrates. It'd be really interesting to see numbers of people who watched illegally.
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Think it did compared to past years.

I think illegal streams have had a massive impact on PPV buyrates. It'd be really interesting to see numbers of people who watched illegally.
It's hard to get streamed numbers, I'll see if there's any torrented show numbers.

This is exactly why this online WWE network has such an opportunity. Netflix is booming, if it gives away all the PPVs bar the big ones (or maybe just Wrestlemania) on the network, then they could get more "buys" even if it is at a lower price. Then a discount on the ones not part of the network.

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Does WWE offer their PPV's online?
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Old 12-30-2013, 12:18 PM   #11
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Also, Im curious to see the buyrate for UFC 168 bc I know their was alot of new traffic and posters in the MMA forum. Prolly close to 750,000.
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Yeah, on wwe.com. Same price as the US PPV networks I believe though.

Did it for whichever Wrestlemania had Miz/Cena.
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It's hard to get streamed numbers, I'll see if there's any torrented show numbers.

This is exactly why this online WWE network has such an opportunity. Netflix is booming, if it gives away all the PPVs bar the big ones (or maybe just Wrestlemania) on the network, then they could get more "buys" even if it is at a lower price. Then a discount on the ones not part of the network.

Be really interesting
It could certainly be a game changer and a really smart business move.

WWE don't make a penny out of me. I stream PPVs either on the night or the morning after, same with Raw, SmackDown, NXT, etc. but I'd happily pay £10 a month for all the weekly content and back catalogue.
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Largest PPV Buys of 2013 list eh?

1,150,000 - 12/8/12 Juan Manuel Marquez vs. Manny Pacquiao
75,000 - 12/16/12 WWE TLC John Cena vs. Dolph Ziggler ladder match
425,000 - 12/29/12 UFC 155 Junior Dos Santos vs. Cain Velasquez

Has 2012's event in it.

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I think this list is for the past year, not specifically 2013 and just 2013. So from December 2012 to November 2013, as I don't think the PPV buys for December don't really come out in time for a list of the whole year to be compiled in time for the end of the year.

I think the name of the thread being "top ppv buys for 2013" is just to generalise it, as the majority of the PPV's occurred in 2013.
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It could certainly be a game changer and a really smart business move.

WWE don't make a penny out of me. I stream PPVs either on the night or the morning after, same with Raw, SmackDown, NXT, etc. but I'd happily pay £10 a month for all the weekly content and back catalogue.
As would I.
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It's hard to get streamed numbers, I'll see if there's any torrented show numbers.

This is exactly why this online WWE network has such an opportunity. Netflix is booming, if it gives away all the PPVs bar the big ones (or maybe just Wrestlemania) on the network, then they could get more "buys" even if it is at a lower price. Then a discount on the ones not part of the network.

Be really interesting
Check out UFC's new site UFC Fight Pass.

It's a pay site ($10 a month) which will have alot of the old UFC, Pride, and Strikeforce library, old seasons of TUF, backstage shit like press conferences, UFC Tonight eps, Countdown shows, etc etc etc.

They already have two cards planned that will only air on that site exclusively. The first airing on January 4th.

Would WWE fans be interested in a site like this?
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That is basically what "WWE Network" will be based on the rumors/dirtsheets.
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It's kinda funny to me that it's not done because they were talking about it when I was working for WWE NOLA in 2009.

I assumed it was a real thing.
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It does not surprise me to see the WWE list go:

WrestleMania - Royal Rumble - SummerSlam

Everything else seems flexible each year but these three seem like 'The Big 3' (Survivor Series hasn't felt like a big ppv in years).
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It's kinda funny to me that it's not done because they were talking about it when I was working for WWE NOLA in 2009.

I assumed it was a real thing.
They were trying to get it on an actual cable network first before resorting to online only. They've got Legends House taped, which is a reality show with a bunch of legends living in a house.
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What will be interesting is "Legends' House" was filmed like 3-4 years ago. I'd imagine they had them force pop culture references into the show. Have any of the cast members died since then?
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What will be interesting is "Legends' House" was filmed like 3-4 years ago. I'd imagine they had them force pop culture references into the show. Have any of the cast members died since then?
They're saying they didn't start filming until Febuary last year, so it's not that old. Still out of date if they start making references to shit though.

Luckily, everyone is alive. Confirmed Legends appearing on this show are Gene Okerlund, Hacksaw Jim Duggan, Hillbilly Jim, Howard Finkel, Jimmy Hart, Roddy Piper, Pat Patterson and Tony Atlas.
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Old 12-31-2013, 08:15 AM   #25
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Wasn't Iron Shiek supposed to be on the show too? I hope so, but I imagine they'd have to edit 98% of his footage.
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Old 12-31-2013, 09:24 AM   #26
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Old 01-01-2014, 10:35 AM   #28
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They could at least put past matches on iTunes. I'm surprised they didn't jump on that ship already.
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