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Old 06-02-2004, 07:52 PM   #1
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QUESTION - Would you consider "the following" to be the GREATEST of all-time?

Do you agree with the following? If not - please state why.



-Wayne Gretzky is the greatest hockey player of all-time

-Michael Jordan is the greatest basketball player of all-time

-Joe Montana is the greatest Football player of all-time

-Pele is the greatest Soccer ('Football') player of all-time

-Gary Kasparov (sic?) is the greatest Chess player of all-time

-Babe Ruth is the greatest baseball player of all-time

-Mohammad Ali is the greatest boxer of all-time

-Rod Laver is the greatest tennis player of all-time

-Jack Nickalus is the greatest Golfer of all-time

-Heyman is the greatest message board poster of all-time.

-Kurt Angle is the greatest amateur wrestler of all-time

-Ken Shamrock is the greatest UFC fighter of all-time

-Nancy Kerrigan is the greatest ice-skater of all-time



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Old 06-02-2004, 08:11 PM   #2
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-Wayne Gretzky is the greatest hockey player of all-time
I don't know enough about hockey to give a good answer

-Michael Jordan is the greatest basketball player of all-time
Magic Johnson

-Joe Montana is the greatest Football player of all-time
greatest Quarterback? yes, greatest football player? no

-Pele is the greatest Soccer ('Football') player of all-time
see hockey

-Gary Kasparov (sic?) is the greatest Chess player of all-time
what

-Babe Ruth is the greatest baseball player of all-time
tyrus raymond cobb

-Mohammad Ali is the greatest boxer of all-time
yes

-Rod Laver is the greatest tennis player of all-time
bjorn borg

-Jack Nickalus is the greatest Golfer of all-time
tiger woods

-Heyman is the greatest message board poster of all-time.
tidus

-Kurt Angle is the greatest amateur wrestler of all-time
dunno

-Ken Shamrock is the greatest UFC fighter of all-time
dunno
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Old 06-02-2004, 08:17 PM   #3
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Just added figure skating for the hell of it.

Nancy Kerrigan is the greatest ice-skater of all-time.

Werd.


p.s. The Miz!
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Old 06-02-2004, 08:20 PM   #4
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-Wayne Gretzky is the greatest hockey player of all-time
-Wilt Chamberlain is the greatest basketball player of all-time
-Jerry Rice is the greatest Football player of all-time
-Pele is the greatest Soccer ('Football') player of all-time
-Gary Kasparov (sic?) is the greatest Chess player of all-time
-Babe Ruth is the greatest baseball player of all-time
-Muhammad Ali is the greatest boxer of all-time
-Jack Nickalus is the greatest Golfer of all-time

I dunno about the others.
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Old 06-02-2004, 08:28 PM   #5
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-Wayne Gretzky is the greatest hockey player of all-time. Der...he rewrote every offensive record imaginable.

-Michael Jordan is the greatest basketball player of all-time. I really can't imagin anyone disagreeing unless you bring up Russell or Chamberlain. But MJ could create shots for himself. Put it this way: if Jesus returns and says that it's one shot to make or he goes Old testament on the world, MJ takes it.

-Joe Montana is the greatest Football player of all-time. Not even close. you could argue that he wasn't even the greatest player on his own team in the Niners' heyday.

-Pele is the greatest Soccer ('Football') player of all-time. Ummm..yes.

-Gary Kasparov (sic?) is the greatest Chess player of all-time. Dunno

-Babe Ruth is the greatest baseball player of all-time. Arguable. Because he was pretty much crap defensively. But he was so far ahead of his time offensively that the fact that he's in the discussion 60 plus years after his prime is a testament to what he did.

-Mohammad Ali is the greatest boxer of all-time. dunno

-Rod Laver is the greatest tennis player of all-time. dunno.

-Jack Nickalus is the greatest Golfer of all-time. at the moment, yes.

-Heyman is the greatest message board poster of all-time.

-Kurt Angle is the greatest amateur wrestler of all-time.no...there were many Russina wrestlers with better amateur careers.

-Ken Shamrock is the greatest UFC fighter of all-time. dunno

-Nancy Kerrigan is the greatest ice-skater of all-time. She didn't even win a gold medal.
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Old 06-02-2004, 08:37 PM   #6
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The Brazilians consider Garrincha to have been a better player than Pele, apparently, but Maradona or George Best or the other two that get commonly mentioned with that tag.
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Old 06-02-2004, 09:59 PM   #7
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Put it this way: if Jesus returns and says that it's one shot to make or he goes Old testament on the world, MJ takes it.
Nah, in my opinion, there's about 20 guys that are about as good as everyone else in the list and we can't really tell. Russell, Chamberlain, MJ, Malone, Hakeem, Barkley, Larry, Magic, and some more. Really, I don't think we can come to any sort of conclusive opinion.

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Babe Ruth is the greatest baseball player of all-time. Arguable. Because he was pretty much crap defensively. But he was so far ahead of his time offensively that the fact that he's in the discussion 60 plus years after his prime is a testament to what he did.
Well, there are a few players I'd bandy about as the top. Most of them couldn't play D very well.

Babe, Ty, Ted, Barry, Honus, Walter, Lefty, Mike S., and a few others. It's a mixed bag. Generally, offense is worth a lot more than defense, since defense also includes pitching.
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Old 06-07-2004, 01:15 PM   #8
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The Brazilians consider Garrincha to have been a better player than Pele, apparently, but Maradona or George Best or the other two that get commonly mentioned with that tag.
Chuck Di Stefano on that 'tag' pile too. I'd still go for Pele though.

Oh, and after what I saw the other night, I'm calling Derren Brown the greatest chess player ever, that trick he did was genius.

Finally, since I know you'll all appreciate it, Michael Schumacher for the best F1 driver of all time.
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Old 06-07-2004, 02:03 PM   #9
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I agree with most of those, but in situations like football and baseball, there really can't be a greatest player of all time, there can be the greatest QB or 1 Baseman of all time, but not in a general sense.
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Old 06-07-2004, 04:12 PM   #10
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I'd rather have Maradona in his prime over Pele in his prime but bear in mind I'm basing this on clips rather than seeing them play since they were before my time.
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Old 06-07-2004, 05:25 PM   #11
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-Wayne Gretzky is the greatest hockey player of all-time Agree

-Michael Jordan is the greatest basketball player of all-time Agree

-Joe Montana is the greatest Football player of all-time Agree

-Pele is the greatest Soccer ('Football') player of all-time Disagree. I'm going with Maradona

-Gary Kasparov (sic?) is the greatest Chess player of all-timeDon't kno, don't care

-Babe Ruth is the greatest baseball player of all-timeAgree

-Mohammad Ali is the greatest boxer of all-timeDisgree. Pound for pound I'm going with De La Hoya. Champion at 6 weights is amazing

-Rod Laver is the greatest tennis player of all-time Disagree. Sampras

-Jack Nickalus is the greatest Golfer of all-timeAgree

-Kurt Angle is the greatest amateur wrestler of all-timeMixed feeling. Danny Hodge deserves mad props

-Ken Shamrock is the greatest UFC fighter of all-time No way. Definately a legend though. I'd pick Tito Ortiz

-Nancy Kerrigan is the greatest ice-skater of all-time What?
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Old 06-07-2004, 05:49 PM   #12
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Yeah I always preffered Maradona to Pele, but I saw more clips of Maradona, I'd rate them about equal.

I think they were better then George Best ECG, I suppose nationality helped you come to that decision.
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Old 06-07-2004, 07:51 PM   #13
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-Wayne Gretzky is the greatest hockey player of all-time - Yes

-Michael Jordan is the greatest basketball player of all-time - Arguable but I'm not getting into it.

-Joe Montana is the greatest Football player of all-time - Meh, No but I don't know who I'd say is?

-Pele is the greatest Soccer ('Football') player of all-time - I have no idea?

-Gary Kasparov (sic?) is the greatest Chess player of all-time - No. You are probably a great chess player, Heyman.

-Babe Ruth is the greatest baseball player of all-time - Yes

-Mohammad Ali is the greatest boxer of all-time - Like Rob said, pound for pound I guess I'm going with De La Hoya. Ali was amazing, however.

-Rod Laver is the greatest tennis player of all-time - Sampras

-Jack Nickalus is the greatest Golfer of all-time - I guess, not sure don't watch enough to tell, but my dad says he is and hes a golfaholic

-Heyman is the greatest message board poster of all-time. - Void

-Kurt Angle is the greatest amateur wrestler of all-time - I'd say so

-Ken Shamrock is the greatest UFC fighter of all-time - Tito Ortiz

-Nancy Kerrigan is the greatest ice-skater of all-time - ...
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Old 06-08-2004, 02:52 PM   #14
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Yeah I always preffered Maradona to Pele, but I saw more clips of Maradona, I'd rate them about equal.

I think they were better then George Best ECG, I suppose nationality helped you come to that decision.
Sorry but Best is in their league. It's all down to opinion anyway but we just as great.
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Old 06-17-2004, 04:09 AM   #15
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-Wayne Gretzky is the greatest hockey player of all-time

-Michael Jordan is the greatest basketball player of all-time

-Joe Montana is the greatest quarterback of all-time

-Pele is the greatest Soccer ('Football') player of all-time

-Gary Kasparov (sic?) is the greatest Chess player of all-time

-Ty Cobb is the greatest baseball player of all-time
Held Stolen Base records, was one of the greatest hitters, redefined the game
-Rocky Marcianno is the greatest boxer of all-time
The only undefeated World Champion of all time.
-Rod Laver is the greatest tennis player of all-time

-Jack Nickalus is the greatest Golfer of all-time

-Kurt Angle is the greatest amateur wrestler of all-time
no but I can't think of another one right now
-Ken Shamrock is the greatest UFC fighter of all-time

-Nancy Kerrigan is the greatest ice-skater of all-time
 
Old 06-17-2004, 04:46 AM   #16
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"-Michael Jordan is the greatest basketball player of all-time"

Wrong. Magic Johnson.

"-Mohammad Ali is the greatest boxer of all-time"

Wrong. Ali has gotten his butt kicked before. The only boxer who never got his tail whipped was Rocky Marciano.

"-Rod Laver is the greatest tennis player of all-time"

Andre Agassi.

"-Jack Nickalus is the greatest Golfer of all-time"

Tiger Woods.

"-Heyman is the greatest message board poster of all-time."

Zeeboe.

"-Ken Shamrock is the greatest UFC fighter of all-time"

Tito Ortiz.
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Old 06-17-2004, 05:01 AM   #17
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"-Michael Jordan is the greatest basketball player of all-time"

Wrong. Magic Johnson.

"-Mohammad Ali is the greatest boxer of all-time"

Wrong. Ali has gotten his butt kicked before. The only boxer who never got his tail whipped was Rocky Marciano.

"-Rod Laver is the greatest tennis player of all-time"

Andre Agassi.

"-Jack Nickalus is the greatest Golfer of all-time"

Tiger Woods.

"-Heyman is the greatest message board poster of all-time."

Zeeboe.

"-Ken Shamrock is the greatest UFC fighter of all-time"

Tito Ortiz.
Zeeboe there's a name I haven't heard in years.
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"-Jack Nickalus is the greatest Golfer of all-time"

Tiger Woods.

"-Heyman is the greatest message board poster of all-time."

Zeeboe.
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Old 06-17-2004, 10:16 PM   #19
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-Wayne Gretzky is the greatest hockey player of all-time
-No Question
-Michael Jordan is the greatest basketball player of all-time
No Question. People say Magic, but Jordan pretty much single-handed turned Chicago into a Championship team.
-Joe Montana is the greatest Football player of all-time
No Way. Greatest QB, probably. Their is quite a few player's i would pick before Montana.
-Pele is the greatest Soccer ('Football') player of all-time-I don't know enough about soccer to say.

-Gary Kasparov (sic?) is the greatest Chess player of all-time
-same as soccer
-Babe Ruth is the greatest baseball player of all-time-Questionable. Baseball is so hard to pick a greatest player in. Their are so many different things that make you a great player.

-Mohammad Ali is the greatest boxer of all-time
-No, i have to agree with everyone who picked Rocky Marciano.
-Rod Laver is the greatest tennis player of all-time-I don't agree. I would have to say Sampras or Agassi, but maybe that's because i've seen them more.

-Jack Nickalus is the greatest Golfer of all-time-I would agree with that now, but when all is said and done, i will have to change my pick to Tiger Woods.

-Heyman is the greatest message board poster of all-time.
-See soccer
-Kurt Angle is the greatest amateur wrestler of all-time
-i'm sure their are a lot of great amateur wrestler's so i can't agree or disagree with this one.
-Ken Shamrock is the greatest UFC fighter of all-time-I disagree. I really think Vitor Belfort is an awesome fighter that keeps getting better and better.

-Nancy Kerrigan is the greatest ice-skater of all-time-disagree. I remember Oksana Baul (sp) being way better than Kerrigan, but i'm not really into Ice-skating, so i could be way off.
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