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Old 12-28-2004, 12:29 AM   #1
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Rate The Wrestler - Day 125 - "World's Most Dangerous Man" Ken Shamrock

Wel, Helmsphere here, again, still wondering where Funky Fly is, i haven't seen in him in almost a week now...

Moving forward, yesterday Wrestler, Paul London, scored a above average but not good enough, 81, While he may be mega talented, he has really failed to taste sucess, which kept him from a higher score, Anyways, Today's Wrestler is former UFC Champion, WWE Intercontinental Champion, King OF The Ring Winner, and the first ever NWA-TNA World Heavyweight Champion, He is the world's Most Dangerous Man, Ken Shamrock!




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Old 12-28-2004, 12:32 AM   #2
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Old 12-28-2004, 12:35 AM   #3
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Old 12-28-2004, 12:37 AM   #4
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Old 12-28-2004, 12:41 AM   #5
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Old 12-28-2004, 01:05 AM   #6
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Old 12-28-2004, 01:11 AM   #7
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Old 12-28-2004, 01:42 AM   #8
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Old 12-28-2004, 01:43 AM   #9
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Old 12-28-2004, 02:07 AM   #10
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Kenny gets a respectable 8.6
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Old 12-28-2004, 02:38 AM   #11
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Old 12-28-2004, 05:13 AM   #12
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Old 12-28-2004, 05:44 AM   #13
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FINALLY.

Now, even though he is the 'wrestler' who got me hooked into wrestling, I have to give him a 9.5, and not the 10 which my heart wants to give him, because you can't really put him up there with the likes of Bret, The Rock, or HBK. Not because he wasn't good enough, but because he wasn't pushed to their level, only up to upper-midcard.

To go off-subject for a moment, you guys know all about the 'Rate The Moment' topic here, well, if I can use that for a moment, I think there's nothing more I'll like to see in the WWE, than Kurt Angle cutting a egotistical promo, then having that guitar riff, Kurt Angle looking around, Shamrock sliding into the ring. suplexing Angle and snap on the Ankle Lock. That would be THE moment to me.
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Old 12-28-2004, 06:54 AM   #14
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9. I always liked him

"WHAT ARE YOU DOING? WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING hit me"
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Old 12-28-2004, 07:24 AM   #15
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Old 12-28-2004, 08:12 AM   #16
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Old 12-28-2004, 08:38 AM   #17
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Ken should've gotten a lot further than he did
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Old 12-28-2004, 08:43 AM   #18
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Old 12-28-2004, 08:47 AM   #19
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Old 12-28-2004, 09:48 AM   #20
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Old 12-28-2004, 10:39 AM   #21
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Old 12-28-2004, 10:46 AM   #22
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Old 12-28-2004, 11:05 AM   #23
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if he didn't leave i'd see him as the champ

-EDIT- oh yeah I didn't give him a score... 8

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Old 12-28-2004, 11:08 AM   #24
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Old 12-28-2004, 02:23 PM   #25
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Old 12-28-2004, 02:27 PM   #26
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He wasn't anything special. Decent talent, but I didn't much care for him. His gimmick got old quick. He wasn't bad in the ring, but nothing he did ever made me stand up and take notice. I don't even think he was the best transitional guy from UFC to Wrestling either, Ron Waterman is an incredible former UFC Champ turned Pro Wrestler...better then Shamrock in my eyes. Oh well. I enjoy him enough to not have a bad taste about him, but nothing to make him go in my top favorites list...hence the slightly above average 6.
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Old 12-28-2004, 02:29 PM   #27
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Old 12-28-2004, 02:50 PM   #28
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Old 12-28-2004, 03:03 PM   #29
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Old 12-28-2004, 03:08 PM   #30
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To those who give him a six... you realize that Kevin Nash got a 61 in this thing, right? Ken Shamrock is at least a tad better than Kevin Nash, I'd say.
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Old 12-28-2004, 03:17 PM   #31
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lol Ron Waterman better then Shamrock. When did Ron win the Tag, IC, and Hardcore belt in the WWF? When did Ron wrestle a championship match, and a dam good one, for the WWF on a PPV? When was Ron Waterman one of the most over babyfaces durng the most popular time in the WWE? Shamrock could of been champion easily and definately was over with the crowd as both babyface and heel. Shamrock was a perfect ir for the IC Title and was one of those guys that when you needed a face to step up and challenge the biggest heel, he was perfect for that. Shamrock was great in the ring and good on the mic. When he hooked that ankle lock, people stood up and cheered. I don't know how 6's come into play here

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Old 12-28-2004, 03:54 PM   #32
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Old 12-28-2004, 04:23 PM   #33
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a very strong 9.

Was a good heel and a good face, could of improved on the mic, but he had this who mental flip thing in the middle of his matches that I really bought into. He wrestling skills were always improving and he was really something different as he had the legit UFC background.
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Old 12-28-2004, 05:09 PM   #34
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Old 12-28-2004, 06:27 PM   #35
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lol.. I am looking at the rating history and...

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Old 12-29-2004, 01:06 AM   #36
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Old 12-29-2004, 01:22 AM   #37
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lol.. I am looking at the rating history and...

Hayabusa is ranked the same as Ric Flair
Balls Mahoney is ranked higher than Jeff Hardy
Disco Inferno is ranked higher than Hurricane
Well....

In the United States, Ric Flair is a legend, who is known by millions.

In Japan....Hayabusa was the same exact thing. So why not?

Jeff Hardy....Ball Mahoney...well, Jeff should be higher in my mind, but they are sorta similar, so I dunno.

Disco and Hurricane...Well for fuck sakes, It's Disco Inferno! (/lara emily mode)
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Old 12-29-2004, 03:33 PM   #38
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lol Ron Waterman better then Shamrock. When did Ron win the Tag, IC, and Hardcore belt in the WWF? When did Ron wrestle a championship match, and a dam good one, for the WWF on a PPV? When was Ron Waterman one of the most over babyfaces durng the most popular time in the WWE? Shamrock could of been champion easily and definately was over with the crowd as both babyface and heel. Shamrock was a perfect ir for the IC Title and was one of those guys that when you needed a face to step up and challenge the biggest heel, he was perfect for that. Shamrock was great in the ring and good on the mic. When he hooked that ankle lock, people stood up and cheered. I don't know how 6's come into play here
For the record Ken Shamrock never held the Hardcore title . And if you are going to argue the point that if the WWF gives someone a title they clearly are talented, Jeff Hardy has won the IC, Tag, Euro, Hardcore, and Light-Heavyweight Titles in the WWF, does that make him more talented then Christopher Daniels who has only jobbed on Jakked for the WWF?

Oh oh oh...and while we get to talk the talk, my personal favorite wrestler of all time (Billy Gunn) has won the IC Title, AND the Tag Title, AND the King of the Ring...all that Shamrock has done, except he also has a run as the Hardcore Champion...now outside of me how many people would say that Billy Gunn is better then Sting, because as well all know Sting never wrestled for the WWF...

Just becuase Ron Waterman never got a chance to make his impact on WWF T.V. doesn't mean he wasn't a phenominal wrestler. In my eyes, and from matches I have seen from him he does a better job then Ken Shamrock. You can be mega over without having a drop of in ring skill, if you want proof look at Ultimate Warrior...you can have a good gimmick and it doesn't mean your a good wrestler, if you want proof look at Hulk Hogan...you can have a major title during a period of great company success and it doesn't mean your great, if you want proof look at Goldberg.

Ken Shamrock in my eyes isn't anything more then a slightly above average wrestler...which is why I gave him a slightly above average (which in theory is a 5) score of 6.
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Old 12-29-2004, 03:39 PM   #40
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Yeah, you can be mega over without having any ring skill, but that's wrestling. We're not just rating ring skill in here, well maybe you are, but nobody else is. It's a combination of skills and obviously Waterman was missing things. Until you make it to the big stage, you are nothing in my eyes. Waterman never made it and there's a reason he didn't. Phenomenal wrestler he was, but what has he ever done where the casual fan is going to say, "yeah, I remember him." Nothing
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