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Old 12-25-2006, 11:23 PM   #1
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I've ripped on J.R. here quite a bit.(It was I who sparked the "xxxxx isn't made of chocolate!" craze) but JR is still leagues above Taz.

The guy stumbles over every other sentence, and sometimes cant even think of anything to finish his sentence, so cole has to finish it for him.

He also randomly breaks out into showtunes.

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Old 12-25-2006, 11:24 PM   #2
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Evertime he says "Big time ups..." I want to stab him in the throat.
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Old 12-25-2006, 11:27 PM   #3
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"Wine em, Dine em, 6 1 9 em"
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Old 12-26-2006, 12:34 AM   #4
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Not for nuthin, but dis thread is a real rocketbustah!
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Old 12-26-2006, 02:41 AM   #5
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I always wanted to smack him everytime he said "HERE COMES THE PAIN!" whenever Brock came out. I know the pain is coming, sir, I don't need you to point out the obvious. Other than that, I don't see a problem with him. Well there's also his need to enforce his brand's 'superiority'.
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Old 12-26-2006, 03:50 AM   #6
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Yes, he is terrible. But when you have him next to Michael Cole he doesn't sound so bad.
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Old 12-26-2006, 10:29 AM   #8
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I find him entertaining, some of the annoying and stupid shit he says comes off funny.
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Old 12-26-2006, 11:19 AM   #10
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Yeah, and so it figures YOU would find it enjoyable.
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Old 12-26-2006, 11:20 AM   #11
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Because he humorously can't say expositionist. I mean expeditionist.

SHE LIKES TO TAKE HER CLOTHES OFF!
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At least he has the element of new school. JR and King are very funny, but they're certainly old school. It's cool to hear from someone whos a former noteworthy wrestler who has some charisma. And though I agree he sounds like a meat head at times, its nice to see him genuinely excited about wrestling.

I love how Tazz genuinely marks out sometimes, like to Undertaker or Hogan entrances, or at wrestlemanias, or to a great match like Benoit/Angle.
Him and Cole were a damn good team, and I also liked when Tazz joined JR and King for a 3-announcer team at split brand events and stuff.
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Old 12-26-2006, 02:46 PM   #13
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Another cool thing I didn't add about Tazz, he doesn't neccesarily play the heel or face at the booth. He just plays a former wrestler who still loves wrestling, and yes sometimes he acts stupid but its cool that he just plays it down the middle and doesn't do the "I root for heels and puppies" or "I root for faces and/or Austin" bit, which has gotten a bit stale.
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Old 12-26-2006, 03:18 PM   #14
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Yes, he is terrible. But when you have him next to Michael Cole he doesn't sound so bad.
Compared to almost every announcer they've had he sounds pretty damn good.

They've had, semi-recently, Layfield, who's gold, Styles, who's gold but usually buried in shit (ewwww, caked on Lawler!), and Heyman (And that'[s going back a while) who was gold.

Tazz is also more competent than a lot of people, which makes him more tolerable.

Problem is, he's next to Styles, and he sounds like a gibbering idiot.
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Old 12-26-2006, 03:23 PM   #15
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Yes, he is terrible. But when you have him next to Michael Cole he doesn't sound so bad.
Bingo. Seperate neither of them are that great but together they just worked. Tazz and Styles hasn't really worked from the very few bits I've heard as they're basically very similar.
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Old 12-26-2006, 04:22 PM   #18
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Cole is the easy choice for worst announcer, tho.
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Old 12-26-2006, 09:16 PM   #19
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Even over Coachman?
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I hate it when he goes, "whoa whoa whoa whoa!" like in EVERY MATCH
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Yes. Easily.
But not over Don West tho. Maybe 2nd next to him.
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Easily worse than West. Easily. The only commentator who gives Cole a run for his money is Lita.
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Yea I always thought he kinda sucked. When he acts as a heel he's good though.
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Except when he yells when Little Bastard comes out. He's gold then. (Cole)
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Easily worse than West. Easily. The only commentator who gives Cole a run for his money is Lita.
Are you crazy? West is the worst announcer in the history of pro wrestling. And I seriously mean that. THE WORST. Somewhere there are two fucking retarded people in a bum fight and some guy is screaming about the end of days down the street, I would classify that guy screaming about saving your enternal soul as at least 3 or 4 times better an announcer than Don West.

Infact, I go so far as to say Don West might make my top 10 worst things about Professional Wrestling...in any catagory...ever...

Now on to the topic at hand; Tazz. He is pretty bad, but I think I would take Tazz over mordern day JR. He's annoying as fucking hell, but something about him is charismatic on the mic...even if he has only 10 phrases used over and over...

"I've been in the ring with him, he's tough."
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"Here comes the pain." (Doesn't use without Lesnar)
"Big Time Ups."
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And his never ending quest to get the word exabitionist out.
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Easily worse than West. Easily. The only commentator who gives Cole a run for his money is Lita.
Clearly you have forgotten Todd Petengale(sp?)
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Ehhh, more or less.

West is terrible, but his over-the-topness and frequent mistakes ocassionally makes me laugh. With Cole I just sit there like
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I always wanted to smack him everytime he said "HERE COMES THE PAIN!" whenever Brock came out. I know the pain is coming, sir, I don't need you to point out the obvious. Other than that, I don't see a problem with him. Well there's also his need to enforce his brand's 'superiority'.
I don't know, maybe it's just me, but I kind of liked it. I mean, it did lead to the title of a video game, and it's good to have commentators and wrestlers mesh. I mean, it makes the commentators kind of more prominent.

Tazz isn't a great commentator, he's not horrible, though. It's got to be tough being out there for an hour and put over matches under the WWE style. When you really look at it, Tazz is the third best announcer the WWE has.

I still think they should do a commentator trade. Have Joey Styles and JBL work together. They'd blend so well. The best play-by-play guy in the WWE, and the best colour commentator in the WWE. They also have different personalities, and it's easy to see that working to their advantage. Styles and Layfield would be the best possible team the WWE could have.

Michael Cole and Tazz just worked together. They just did. On ECW, Cole gets to be live. In other words, the move from SmackDown! to ECW can be looked at as a promotion. The WWE are obvious big on him, so why not? He only has to talk for an hour, and they can justify it by saying the WWE wanted a more "sports entertainmenty" commentator for the new vision of ECW.

Jim Ross and Jerry Lawler are just awful, but I guess we just have to accept they will be around forever. Well, another year at least. By then ECW will probably fold, and Michael Cole could be brought to RAW with Tazz, and they'll likely have a three-way commentating team. I know it's impossible to really predict, and it seems a little odd, but I see it working, in a weird sort of way. After all, the WWE is punishing Josh Mathews for whatever reason.

Why the fuck they don't have Josh Mathews work Heat is beyond me.
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Old 12-27-2006, 08:49 AM   #31
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No idea how anyone can think tazz is better than Ross, even in his current state.
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Old 12-27-2006, 08:54 AM   #32
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He's not. Ross is not a bad announcer, well now he kind of is because he fucks up but he's still not bad really.
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Old 12-27-2006, 09:00 AM   #33
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I don't know, maybe it's just me, but I kind of liked it. I mean, it did lead to the title of a video game, and it's good to have commentators and wrestlers mesh. I mean, it makes the commentators kind of more prominent.
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Old 12-27-2006, 12:28 PM   #34
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Pettengill was a TV host/interviewer, not a commentator. He very, very rarely called matches, much like Gene Okerlund.
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Old 12-27-2006, 12:45 PM   #35
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Why is Taz being compared to JR in this thread? They have different roles. Taz is a colour guy and JR is a play by play guy. Taz should be compared to King not JR. So with that said, Taz is way better than King. Discuss.
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Old 12-27-2006, 01:10 PM   #36
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He's not. Ross is not a bad announcer, well now he kind of is because he fucks up but he's still not bad really.
Ross isn't a bad announcer even now. Its just his fuck-ups stand out more because they're so damn weird. Part of the problem is King has become absolutely deplorable. They don't mesh well anymore. Maybe if King turned heel again(which he should be at all times).
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Old 12-27-2006, 01:12 PM   #37
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I agree about King. It only seems to work for me when there is a heel and face announcer type thing.
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Another reason people might just like Tazz.....they loved him as a Wrestler, which doesn't have much bearing on why he should be considered a good announcer but it certainly must be the determining factor for many.
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Old 12-27-2006, 01:55 PM   #39
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Why is Taz being compared to JR in this thread? They have different roles. Taz is a colour guy and JR is a play by play guy. Taz should be compared to King not JR. So with that said, Taz is way better than King. Discuss.
Probably because they're comparing quality, not roles.

Hmmm...Nah. I'm probably just thinking too far outside the box.
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Tazz doesn't seem right away from Cole.

Styles doesn't seem right without... say, a Cyrus or a Heyman as the color announcer (without Heyman, we wouldn't have had "GORE! GORE! GOOOOOORE!")

JBL is gold, and works well alongside Michael Cole (who has gotten WAY better over the years).

JR and King... have both been in decline. King has gotten less annoying over the years but it's strange to hear him not totally kiss the asses of every heel that comes through the ramp. He also isn't like, trashing John Cena, which the 6-year-ago King would have DEFINITELY done when Cena did something like insult Lita, for example.

JR, though. I put in a tape of WW(F) from 6 years back, and the decline is definitely present. It might be because he's had to call a lot of CRAP, being on Raw.

Coachman...would be a cool announcer, if he wasn't playing heel.
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