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Old 01-14-2010, 10:26 PM   #1
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Was reading about Andre Dawson earlier and it got me thinking. When these guys retire(d) and maybe go into the HoF, what cap should they don?


Andre Dawson:
Randy Johnson:
Curt Schilling:
Roberto Alomar:
Roger Clemens:
Rafael Palmeiro:
Gary Sheffield:
Mike Piazza:
Fred McGriff:
Kenny Lofton:
Julio Franco:






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Old 01-14-2010, 10:37 PM   #2
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Andre Dawson: Expos
Randy Johnson: Diamondbacks
Curt Schilling: Red Sox
Roberto Alomar: Blue Jays
Roger Clemens: Red Sox
Rafael Palmeiro: Rangers
Gary Sheffield: Dodgers?
Mike Piazza: Mets, even though he was better with the Dodgers
Fred McGriff: Braves
Kenny Lofton: Indians
Julio Franco: Rangers

I don't think quite a few of those guys will ever get in, but a fun exercise anyway.
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Old 01-14-2010, 10:59 PM   #3
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Yeah, I was reaching on the last few, but needed some filler.
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Old 01-15-2010, 09:21 AM   #4
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I'll have to actually look at the numbers to figure some of these out...but offhand I'll say Randy Johnson definitely as a Diamondback, I'd be shocked if he went in as a Mariner. Clemens also definitely as a member of the Red Sox, whether he likes it or not.

And I'm somewhat biased of course, but I think Piazza will definitely go in as a Met. He was better as a Dodger, but only slightly. He played longer, hit most of his power milestones, and had his most memorable moments as a Met and is regarded as the best hitter in their history. Also, from what I can tell, players are still allowed to voice their preference and the Committee takes it into heavy consideration if it's close. Piazza will definitely ask to go in as a Met.
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Old 01-15-2010, 09:51 AM   #5
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Dawson should go in as an Expo, really wish he would see it that way too
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Old 01-15-2010, 11:36 AM   #6
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Andre Dawson: Cubs
Randy Johnson: D'Backs
Curt Schilling: D'Backs
Roberto Alomar: Indians
Roger Clemens: Red Sox
Rafael Palmeiro: Rangers
Gary Sheffield: Marlins (he was there longest & numbers between there and LA are about the same)
Mike Piazza: Marlins Mets
Fred McGriff: Blue Jays
Kenny Lofton: Indians
Julio Franco: Rangers

pretty biased on the 1st 4 though.
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Old 01-15-2010, 12:45 PM   #7
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Andre Dawson: Montreal Expos
Randy Johnson: Seattle Mariners
Curt Schilling: Philadelphia Phillies
Roberto Alomar: Toronto Blue Jays
Roger Clemens: Boston Red Sox
Rafael Palmeiro: Texas Rangers
Gary Sheffield: Florida Marlins
Mike Piazza: LA Dodgers
Fred McGriff: Atlanta Braves
Kenny Lofton: Cleveland Indians
Julio Franco: Cleveland Indians
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Old 01-15-2010, 01:32 PM   #8
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Andre Dawson: Cubs
Randy Johnson: D'Backs
Curt Schilling: D'Backs
Roberto Alomar: Indians
Roger Clemens: Red Sox
Rafael Palmeiro: Rangers
Gary Sheffield: Marlins (he was there longest & numbers between there and LA are about the same)
Mike Piazza: Marlins Mets
Fred McGriff: Blue Jays
Kenny Lofton: Indians
Julio Franco: Rangers

pretty biased on the 1st 4 though.
lol Alomar wearing an Indians hat
 
Old 01-15-2010, 01:33 PM   #9
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Andre Dawson: Cubs
Randy Johnson: D Backs
Curt Schilling: Phillies
Roberto Alomar: Blue Jays
Roger Clemens: Red Sox
Rafael Palmeiro: Rangers
Gary Sheffield: Marlins
Mike Piazza: Mets
Fred McGriff: Blue Jays
Kenny Lofton: Tribe
Julio Franco Rangers
 
Old 01-16-2010, 02:41 PM   #10
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Randy Johnson: Diamondbacks
Curt Schilling: Red Sox
Roberto Alomar: Indians
Roger Clemens: Yankees
Rafael Palmeiro: Rangers
Gary Sheffield: Didn't even really realize he was ever on the Marlins? I always knew him as a Dodger, Brave and Yankee
Mike Piazza: Mets
Fred McGriff: Braves
Kenny Lofton: Indians
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Old 01-16-2010, 02:41 PM   #11
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Everyone should go in as a Yankee.
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Old 01-18-2010, 02:12 AM   #12
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Clemens is gonna go in as a Yankee. Piece of shit
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Old 01-18-2010, 06:11 PM   #13
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Andre Dawson: Cubs
Randy Johnson: D Backs
Curt Schilling: D' Backs
Roberto Alomar: Blue Jays
Roger Clemens: Red Sox
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Gary Sheffield: ???
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Old 01-18-2010, 09:08 PM   #14
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Gonna throw a couple more out.

Mark McGwire (yeah, yeah yeah. But would he be an A or a Card?):
Kevin Brown:
Manny Ramirez:
Alex Rodriguez:
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Old 01-18-2010, 09:47 PM   #15
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Old 01-19-2010, 12:06 AM   #16
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Old 01-19-2010, 09:32 AM   #17
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Randy Johnson: Diamondbacks
Curt Schilling: Red Sox
Roberto Alomar: Indians
Roger Clemens: Yankees
Rafael Palmeiro: Rangers
Gary Sheffield: Didn't even really realize he was ever on the Marlins? I always knew him as a Dodger, Brave and Yankee
Mike Piazza: Mets
Fred McGriff: Braves
Kenny Lofton: Indians
Again, Alomar wearing a Tribe hat in the Hall?
 
Old 01-19-2010, 02:40 PM   #18
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I didn't research my selections, but that is where I remember him the most so that's what I put.

That said, after researching, he spent 17 years in Major League Baseball and the only place he spent more than three years was Toronto, where he spent five. He was also an all-star, gold glove and silver slugger winner during all three years in Cleveland, and top-4 in MVP voting twice (No. 3 in 1999). According to baseball-reference.com, the highest he ever finished in MVP voting elsewhere was 6 in Toronto, and 22 in Baltimore.

So looking at his statistics, it's clear now that Toronto would probably make sense based on longevity, but he was as productive as he ever was when he played for Cleveland, so I'm not sure what you're so bothered about.
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Old 01-21-2010, 09:42 AM   #19
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Plus he won 2 World Series titles in Toronto.
 
Old 01-21-2010, 12:11 PM   #20
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He is one of the weird cases, because while he was great there, won two World Series, and stayed there the longest of anywhere, when you play for five different teams, four of them for about 3-5 years each, it's hard to really identify him with any of them.

Statistically he was probably at his best with the Indians, but (and I was too young to pay attention at the time) he probably is best identified with the Blue Jays. Again, I didn't pay much attention to baseball until about 2000.
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Makes sense. I'm a diehard Jays fan, and I couldn't fathom Alomar not going in as a Jay.
 
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The fact that he wasn't a first ballot HOF is sickening
 
Old 01-25-2010, 04:48 PM   #23
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Andre Dawson: Cubs
Randy Johnson: Diamondbacks
Curt Schilling: Red Sox
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Roger Clemens: Red Sox
Rafael Palmeiro: Rangers
Gary Sheffield: Dodgers
Mike Piazza: Mets
Fred McGriff: Braves
Kenny Lofton: Indians
Julio Franco: Braves
Mark McGwire: Cardinals
Kevin Brown: Dodger
Manny Ramirez: Red Sox
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Old 01-26-2010, 07:48 PM   #24
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Rafael Palmeiro: Rangers
Gary Sheffield: Dodgers
Mike Piazza: Mets
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Kenny Lofton: Indians
Julio Franco: Braves
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Clemens is gonna go in as a Yankee. Piece of shit
I'm pretty sure he'd go as a Red Sox... rings don't make the career and most of his stats were with the Sox... heck, you could probably make an argument of blue jays > yankees.

That said, Clemens has said he wanted to go in as a Yankee but the players have no say...

I believe it was Boggs who rumor was the Rays offered him Money to have a Rays hat and I think Winfield might have even offered his up to multiple teams for money that had the HOF change the policy and not let the players pick the hat.
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Old 01-27-2010, 12:15 AM   #26
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Actually, I've read that while the Hall does get the final decision...players are at least asked about preferences. Usually the player's wish will be honored if it's deemed close enough.
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Case in point, Andre Dawson asked to go in as a Cub...but the Hall vetoed it and are putting him in as an Expo. It makes sense, because it's really not even close.
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