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Old 12-12-2003, 04:48 PM   #1
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Just a quick point. Not once have you mentioned that people like her for her music, implying that only the image matters.
Or that nobody disagrees over her music...
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Old 12-12-2003, 09:32 PM   #2
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Or that nobody disagrees over her music...

I bloody do. I don't get why they get the accolades when Within Temptation and Nightwish (and to some extent Lacuna Coil) have the same image, but provide much better quality material.
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Old 12-12-2003, 10:09 PM   #3
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I bloody do. I don't get why they get the accolades when Within Temptation and Nightwish (and to some extent Lacuna Coil) have the same image, but provide much better quality material.
I'm still trying to figure out why people compare Lacuna Coil and Evanescence in the first place. there really isn't that strong a relationship between the two sounds. The similarities seem to be superficial at best, too.

I don't really contest their music. I enjoy it. I think fanboys go overboard, but you get that with almost any popular style of music. Course, the image is probably more important to a lot of people, but I wasn't arguing the music because I didn't see it as much of an issue. It's pop. You like it or you don't. Some people take it further and crusade over an image, and that's the only place I really take issue. I decided I liked the music before I knew what she looked like, and wasn't that impressed with her appearance. The music's cool.

As for why they have the mainstream but those other bands don't, it's mainly image and marketability. Mainstream hype is all a marketing tool. Bands like Linkin Park and Evanescences aren't put there because they're the hottest of their genres, but because they're the ones that can be milked.
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Old 12-12-2003, 10:16 PM   #4
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I'm still trying to figure out why people compare Lacuna Coil and Evanescence in the first place. there really isn't that strong a relationship between the two sounds. The similarities seem to be superficial at best, too.

I don't really contest their music. I enjoy it. I think fanboys go overboard, but you get that with almost any popular style of music. Course, the image is probably more important to a lot of people, but I wasn't arguing the music because I didn't see it as much of an issue. It's pop. You like it or you don't. Some people take it further and crusade over an image, and that's the only place I really take issue. I decided I liked the music before I knew what she looked like, and wasn't that impressed with her appearance. The music's cool.

As for why they have the mainstream but those other bands don't, it's mainly image and marketability. Mainstream hype is all a marketing tool. Bands like Linkin Park and Evanescences aren't put there because they're the hottest of their genres, but because they're the ones that can be milked.
I'm not really too into the appearance of Evanescence. I think Amy Lee is a beautiful girl but I too didn't know what the band looked like. The first time I heard a sample of their music was during a DareDevil trailer before Final Destination 2 last February. The girl I was with told me she liked the girl from the band but I thought she said "It was an all girl band." I also thought that Paul McCoys parts were done by the lead singer of POD, cause it kinda sounded like him.

I didn't know shit, I was just really impressed with the little bit of chours I heard from the movie. I liked it cause it was something different.

I personally like Evanescence for their harder stuff like "One Last Breath" and "Whisper". It's an odd combination to have a girl with a soft, almost operah like voice... mixed with the guitar and bass beat in a lot of their songs. I like it because it's soft voice and lyrics expressed in a hard way.

At their concert Amy was screaming the lyrics, and usually when a girl screams her voice isn't half as good as it usually is but hers was beautiful... and that's what I like about the band. Amy could shave her head and have her boobs moved to her knee's for all I care.

I'm also into Linkin Park, once again not because of an image. If you listen to a song like "Don't Stay" from LP, then listen to a song like "One Last Breath" from EV... you'll see they're the same in many ways.

The guitar beats in the music are similar, but even more similar they're both considered rock groups, and both have earned a HUGE amount of respect for me because of their choice of lyrics. Evanescence is more poetic with emotion, where Linkin Park is more blunt and straight forward with emotion in their music.

So hey... you have your own opinion and so does everyone else. You don't think Amy Lee is hot, I do. You can say she's not hot, you can say you don't like the music... but don't tell me and other people why we think what we think. Because I think I know what and why I think a lot better than you do.
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Old 12-12-2003, 10:28 PM   #5
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So hey... you have your own opinion and so does everyone else. You don't think Amy Lee is hot, I do. You can say she's not hot, you can say you don't like the music... but don't tell me and other people why we think what we think. Because I think I know what and why I think a lot better than you do.
The thing is you get all asshurt when someone says she's not hot and it makes you look stupid, as does comparing Ev to LP.
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Old 12-12-2003, 10:36 PM   #6
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The thing is you get all asshurt when someone says she's not hot and it makes you look stupid, as does comparing Ev to LP.
If anyone would know when I get asshurt it would be you since you've been up my ass for the past week or so for reasons unknown to me.

A lot of people who like EV like LP too. And they DO have a lot of similarities. Some people have gone as far as to call Evanescence "Linkin Park with a female singer" or something along those lines. Which I don't agree with but songs like One Last Breath do sound somewhat similar to songs like Don't Stay.

There was a topic comparing the two over at your EVBoard, I guess they're all stupid too. Also if I remember correctly there's even a member by the name of "Parkenescene" or something along those lines.

This whole damn topic makes you look stupid so don't tell me about looking stupid. I'd get better results learning potty training habits from my dog than learning how not to look stupid from yourself.
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Old 12-12-2003, 10:49 PM   #7
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So hey... you have your own opinion and so does everyone else. You don't think Amy Lee is hot, I do. You can say she's not hot, you can say you don't like the music... but don't tell me and other people why we think what we think. Because I think I know what and why I think a lot better than you do.
First off...I've already made it clear I like the music. You're just overzealous. Compared to you, I probably do look like a hater.

Second off, try practicing what you preach. Once again, you bitch about people telling you why you like the band, try not telling other people the same, whether it's why they like or hate a musician or the music they do. Yeah, that's pretty much you were doing on that internet hate site thread, and what you've done in this thread as well. You think you know why you like Evanescence, and it's unfair that I or anyone else should judge you on that...Oh, but it's different when you're judging someone else's reasons for liking or hating someone
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