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Old 12-21-2005, 12:13 AM   #921
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Old 12-21-2005, 12:26 AM   #922
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Say goodbye to the long hair and beard. HAHAHA. Typical. He spends all last year saying how if he cant play for either the Red Sox or Cubs that he would just flat out retire.

Go fucking figure right.
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Old 12-21-2005, 12:43 AM   #923
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FUCK YOU JOHNNY DAMON!

I AM SO PISSED RN!
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Old 12-21-2005, 12:43 AM   #924
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Yeah, he'll have a crewcut so fast

Just what happened to Giambi
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Old 12-21-2005, 12:52 AM   #925
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Old 12-21-2005, 12:59 AM   #926
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Old 12-21-2005, 01:06 AM   #927
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WOW I AM SO MADDDD!!!

EVERY PLAYER THAT BECOMES MY FAVORITE FUCKS ME OVER!

JOE THORNTON, NOMAR GARCIAPARRA, MO VAUGHN, RICKY WILLIAMS

David Ortiz better not do anything stupid fuck.
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Old 12-21-2005, 01:07 AM   #928
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Nomar didnt really fuck you over lol, he got traded. Nomar is still my boy
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Old 12-21-2005, 01:07 AM   #929
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HOLY FUCK

Damon a Yank. didn't see this coming

HAHA now he has to cut off the long hair and beard
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Old 12-21-2005, 01:12 AM   #930
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Nomar didnt really fuck you over lol, he got traded. Nomar is still my boy
YES HE DID ASSHOLE! HE FUCKED ME OVER BY BECOMING A CUBBY!

Fuck off sTiMa. Just, just fuck off.
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Old 12-21-2005, 01:37 AM   #931
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Curt Schilling 2 Y/25 M
David Ortiz 2 Y/12.5 M
Jason Varitek 4 Y/40 M
That's true, but Damon was all about the "attitude" of the team, and keeping the core together and all this other bullshit. Then he ends up going to the team who the most money on the table for the 4 year deal, since noone would give him the 5 year deal.

I don't blame him, make all the money you can make but I don't give a fuck about his personal goals or how much he could make for either team. Putting on the pinstrips makes you a piece of shit.
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Old 12-21-2005, 01:43 AM   #932
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I knew sTiMa34 would be sad.
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Old 12-21-2005, 01:54 AM   #933
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Old 12-21-2005, 02:02 AM   #934
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I'm not really sad, I'm just pissed he had to sign with the Yankees. Their lineup is fucking ridiculous.
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Old 12-21-2005, 02:05 AM   #935
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Some of you guys are acting like Damon is the only person to ever be swayed by money.

You know whats funny is I bet if I go find the offseason thread from last year there'd be a bunch of stuff about how great it was that David Wells was screwing over the Yankees by going to Boston.
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Old 12-21-2005, 02:06 AM   #936
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Wouldn't be too worried
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Old 12-21-2005, 03:00 AM   #937
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Yeah if those guys play to their abilities then it could be trouble, granted they are all pretty old and its doubtful that will happen, it still could.

Also, I don't really think anyone was saying the Yankees got screwed over when Wells went to Bostn, seeing how the Yanks didnt even want Wells. Players are swayed by money all the time, its part of the time, thats cool, but its also part of the game to call a guy a lillll bitch when he switches from one rival to another.

Thank god the Yankees didn't sign Nomar though, their line up would be even more ridiculous. Especially since Nomar would get a lot of time at DH to reduce injury, his biggest problem lately.

1. Damon CF
2. Jeter SS
3. A-Rod 3B
4. Sheff RF
5. Matsui LF
6. Giambi 1ST/DH
7. Nomar 1ST/DH
8. Posada C
9. Cano 2B

That would be a fucking ridiculous line up
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Old 12-21-2005, 04:09 AM   #938
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WTF why are you keeping even big news like this in this one thread? That is retarded. If you are gonna change the title of the thread, at least start a new thread, you rope smokes.
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Old 12-21-2005, 04:30 AM   #939
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So, I wake up to this...

Oh well, he should do great in NY, and more power to him, why not go for the bigger money.

The Yanks will have a great hitting lineup, they always do, the Sox will have a good hitting lineup, they always do, but again it will come down to pitching and defense and if you assume everyone is healthy, the Red Sox have better pitching then the yanks, so I'm not worried.

and yeah Stima, I can't wait to see the shirts they come up with.

My favs are still "Porsada is a lil bitch" and "Jeter Blows A-Rod" of course there was something like "A-Rod blows Randys Johnson" last year, or maybe that was Jeter.
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Old 12-21-2005, 04:35 AM   #940
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someone explain this to me, ESPN says the damon signing shifts the power in the AL East...

Last I checked the Yankees won the division last year, and the year before and.... so how did this shift the power? it just made the best team better, simple.
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Old 12-21-2005, 05:21 AM   #941
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That is just fucking annoying.
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Old 12-21-2005, 07:17 AM   #942
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I was so excited when I heard this, this morning. But, heck I'm a Yankees fan.
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Old 12-21-2005, 07:46 AM   #943
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That is just fucking annoying.
I would assume your referring to the salaries, right? If that's the case, i agree no baseball player should make the money that any of them do, but the bottom line is, if the owners are raking in tons of money because of the players, then why shouldn't they get a piece of the pie? It always annoys me when people talk shit about how the Yanks spend so much money. If you have the money to invest in your 'product', then why not? They pay the luxury tax, and its not their fault the lower market teams pocket it, and don't put it into their team like they should. About Damon, he is reportedly getting a 4 yr 52 mil. That's the same as Matsui, at that price, IMO the Red Sox could have easily afforded that. I think by Boston not resigning him will hurt them more than anyone would think. Damon getting on base made Manny and Ortiz alot better players. He is one of the best leadoff hitters in the game right now and to me 13 mil in this day and age is a bargain.
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What I don't understand is maybe someone could fill me in because I'm not up to date with all the sports news. But wasn't Damon's agent asking for a 7 year contract? How did the Yankees sign him for 4?
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Old 12-21-2005, 08:11 AM   #945
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Damon as a Yankee just seems wrong. I'm talking fucking your sister wrong.
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What I don't understand is maybe someone could fill me in because I'm not up to date with all the sports news. But wasn't Damon's agent asking for a 7 year contract? How did the Yankees sign him for 4?
Because Boston offered him 4 as well, but for less money and they were the only 2 offers.

Or so I've heard.

Simple economics, more money = more money.
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Damon as a Yankee just seems wrong. I'm talking fucking your sister wrong.
I'm not a Red Sox fan in the least, but I have to agree with you there. His whole rock star/caveman look kinda of sumed up the "idiot" thing with the 04 team.

It'll be weird seeing him looking like he's in a KC uni all over again.
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Old 12-21-2005, 10:07 AM   #949
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Damon as a Yankee just seems wrong. I'm talking fucking your sister wrong.
What's wrong with me fucking your sister?

Anyway, yeah, sox offered 4/10mil/yr and the yanks came in with 4/13mil/yr.

The Yanks told them "you have 24hrs to decide or we're moving on". Could have been a bluff, they might have stayed in it, or let him play one team off another... but, they bit and took it. I can't fault him.

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I agree, can't they throw Cano another 780K so he won't be the only guy without 1mil/yr?
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my take, it does hurt the Sox, but he's replaceable, he's a good fielder with a horrible arm. He's a great leadoff hitter, but keep in mind last year was a contact year and he put up his best numbers ever, will he keep it up? we'll see. I'm not worried about his HR's and Rbi's, you don't expect that from your leadoff guy, the word is Loretta will hit leadoff and if he hits like last year I'm good with that.

Defense and Pitching win championships, plain and simple, the Yankees proved that, the sox (white and red) proved that.

The sox getting Beckett is a big upgrade, the key still remains to me, does Foulke return to the old Foulke or can Timlin handle being the closer.

I'm still waiting to see what happens with Manny, that decides the team, what they get for him or if he decides to stay.
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He's still in his rookie contract.
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So, the word is the Red Sox thought Boras was bluffing, and the Sox said 4yrs/40mil and you have 7days to decide or the offer is off the table.

The Sox thought Boras was bluffing, that's funny. Also, aparently the Sox "brass" found out about Damon via a reporter.

that's funny.

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With Damon leaving I don't see Red Sox possibly trading Manny. Never really thought it would happen before but now it just seems impossible unless they get a big bat in return.
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my take, it does hurt the Sox, but he's replaceable, he's a good fielder with a horrible arm. He's a great leadoff hitter, but keep in mind last year was a contact year and he put up his best numbers ever, will he keep it up? we'll see. I'm not worried about his HR's and Rbi's, you don't expect that from your leadoff guy, the word is Loretta will hit leadoff and if he hits like last year I'm good with that.

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The sox getting Beckett is a big upgrade, the key still remains to me, does Foulke return to the old Foulke or can Timlin handle being the closer.

I'm still waiting to see what happens with Manny, that decides the team, what they get for him or if he decides to stay.
I'm not to sure of your assesment of Damon being replaceable. I agree he has a horrible arm, but i feel he made Manny and Ortiz way better. Good leadoff hitters are hard to find. Having your leadoff runner on makes it possible for your 3rd and 4th batter to come up with runner(s) on (unless someone hits into a dp). Loretta may do ok, but he's not in the same league as Damon IMO as a leadoff hitter.

As for Beckett, i'm not sold on him at all. He had an awesome playoff and World Series run in 03, but what has he done since? He was dominant that year and he hasn't even come close to repeating that performance. Granted he was on Florida, but still he hasn't come close to 03. It seems like he's on the DL for blisters atleast once a month. We'll see what happens though.

Manny will be the key for you guys. If he goes and you don't replace him with someone close to his caliber, than i believe Ortiz's numbers will decline. Manny make Ortiz better. Pitchers will pitch differently to him if there is not a dangerous hitter in front of him.
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I'm not to sure of your assesment of Damon being replaceable. I agree he has a horrible arm, but i feel he made Manny and Ortiz way better. Good leadoff hitters are hard to find. Having your leadoff runner on makes it possible for your 3rd and 4th batter to come up with runner(s) on (unless someone hits into a dp). Loretta may do ok, but he's not in the same league as Damon IMO as a leadoff hitter.

As for Beckett, i'm not sold on him at all. He had an awesome playoff and World Series run in 03, but what has he done since? He was dominant that year and he hasn't even come close to repeating that performance. Granted he was on Florida, but still he hasn't come close to 03. It seems like he's on the DL for blisters atleast once a month. We'll see what happens though.

Manny will be the key for you guys. If he goes and you don't replace him with someone close to his caliber, than i believe Ortiz's numbers will decline. Manny make Ortiz better. Pitchers will pitch differently to him if there is not a dangerous hitter in front of him.
I agree on some of your points. Damon does make the rest better by being on base, but Loretta has had a better avg, slg and OBP the last 2yrs then Damon, so I'm not overly worried there.

Does leave a hole at the 2spot though if you move him up to leadoff.

Manny clearly makes Ortiz better, no question about it, take away Manny and they walk Ortiz almost every at bat or pitch around.

Hopefully Manny stays or they get something of his caliber for him, a deal that somehow brings in a Tejada or even a deal that bring in Hunter. But if it brings "prospects" or dumps salary it could be a long summer.

I was uneasy about Beckett, but the more people talk the more I seem to get sold on him.
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The more I think about the signing of Damon though the more I think about how the Yankees should have gone after Reed or stuck with Crosby, if nothing else than for defense.

I dunno, I guess we will see how good this signing is. Can't wait until the season starts.
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but Loretta has had a better avg, slg and OBP the last 2yrs then Damon, so I'm not overly worried there.
lol where did you read that
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lol where did you read that
pulled his stats on MLB.com for 2003 and 2004. hmm... ok, just realised that's missing 2005... ok, so 2 out of the last 3yrs...

http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/team/p...ayer_id=113028

http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/team/p...ayer_id=117928

yep, Damon had better stats in 2005, but also I see Loretta didn't play a full season so who knows.
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