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Old 12-22-2005, 09:24 PM   #1001
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LOL @ the Dodgers giving Tomko a multi year dear at 4 mil per
pitches a ton of innings every year. 4 million a year is a lot however, but I think it's not a bad thing having him on a team.
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Miz, got a link? didn't see/hear about this one yet and curious to see what the current rumor is.

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This is from rotoworld

The Diamondbacks are in serious discussions with the Red Sox, Blue Jays, Orioles and an unidentified National League club regarding Troy Glaus, according to FOXSports.com's Ken Rosenthal.
The Red Sox and Blue Jays are the front-runners for Glaus, according to an official from one of the interested clubs. The Jays have offered Orlando Hudson for Glaus and might be willing to include Miguel Batista, too. The Red Sox could offer Matt Clement, Bronson Arroyo or David Wells, along with possibly Tony Graffanino and a prospect or two. Dec. 22 - 3:14 pm et
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pitches a ton of innings every year. 4 million a year is a lot however, but I think it's not a bad thing having him on a team.
There is certainly alot of value in innings-eaters, but not ones who fail to put up even okay numbers in every other category. He hasn't posted a WHIP under 1.30 since 1998. If this signing was a one year, one million dollar deal with Tomko being used as a long reliever/emergency starter, it would draw no complaints from me.
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Gammons says he expects the Jays to get Glaus. I'd say that would be the bat to put us over the top and make us a top wild card challenger. I'd rather see Hinske/Koskie/Hillenbrand go than Hudson but if Hill can play 2B well, which the team is pretty confident about, then its cool.
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Toronto is one of three teams on Glaus' no-trade list in his contract.
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Yeah, but if Glaus got to pick only three teams he didn't want to be traded to and Toronto was one of them he probably isn't going to want to waive it. I don't know Glaus personally, just saying.
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Reggie Sanders to the Royals? Maybe they are'nt really trying to relocate then.
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Yeah, but if Glaus got to pick only three teams he didn't want to be traded to and Toronto was one of them he probably isn't going to want to waive it. I don't know Glaus personally, just saying.

Just a thought, maybe when Glaus put Toronto as one of the teams he didn't want to be traded to, was when they weren't that good. He might have changed his mind seeing the improvements that Toronto has made. They are actually spending money and trying to compete since Glaus went to Arizona.
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Sometimes you have to give up good talent to get good talent. I'd hate to loose Hudson, but it's deals like this that would make Toronto a considerable threat. Like TIoE said, I'd rather see one of the other guys like Hinske or Hillenbrand be moved, but things are what they are...

I hope the Jays go after a Coco Crisp calibre player as well.
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Mariners easily lead the league in drug abusers.

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Lawton agrees to deal with Mariners
By TIM BOOTH, Associated Press Writer
December 22, 2005

SEATTLE (AP) -- The Mariners took a chance on Matt Lawton, agreeing Thursday to a $400,000, one-year contract with a player who will start next season under suspension because of steroid use. The commissioner's office announced Nov. 2 that Lawton tested positive for steroids, a substance identified as boldenone, which is used by veterinarians.

"I made a terrible and foolish mistake that I will regret for the rest of my life," Lawton said at the time of his suspension.

Because he tested positive under the 2005 program, Lawton will miss the first 10 days of next season instead of 50 games, the penalty called for under the toughened agreement players and owners adopted under pressure from politicians.
The left-handed-hitting Lawton batted a combined .254 last season with 13 homers and 53 RBIs in 141 games for Pittsburgh, the Chicago Cubs and New York Yankees. He was terrible at the end of the season, going 6-for-48 (.125) for the Yankees with two homers and four RBIs. New York did not include him on its playoff roster.
The 34-year-old Lawton, who received a limited no-trade clause, can earn an additional $1.25 million in performance bonuses based on plate appearances and would get the full amount if he has 600. He earned $7.5 million last season, completing a $27 million, four-year contract he agreed to with Cleveland in December 2001.
He is a career .267 hitter with 138 homers. He was an All-Star in 2000 with Minnesota and 2004 with Cleveland. Lawton made his major league debut with Minnesota in 1995 and remained with the Twins until the 2001 season, when he was traded to the New York Mets. He also played two seasons in Cleveland. Earlier in the week Seattle let go pitcher Ryan Franklin and outfielder Jamal Strong, also among the 12 players who tested positive for steroids this year.

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Actually, this is a pretty damn good (and cheap) pick up.
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Talk about Glaus coming to the Red Sox... I've heard a few different trade rumors. One involves a 3 or 4way deal and Manny goes.

Another is Clemment or Arroyo or Wells and a prospect, assuming the sox take one the whole contract and don't ask for any cash.

If they can get Glauss w/o giving up Manny that would be big, then you can still move manny for either pitching or hitting.
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Jays get:
3B Troy Glaus

Dbacks get:
2B Orlando Hudson
RP Miguel Batista

Not a good trade for Toronto.
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It's pretty funny how Ricciardi said just yesterday that the talks weren't going anywhere and he had no idea where these rumors were comming from.
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Old 12-23-2005, 08:17 PM   #1018
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Im pretty surprised he waived the no trade clause.
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Glaus also may be open to playing for the Jays because his wife, Ann, is an equestrian rider who often travels to the east coast for competitions. His contract includes an additional $250,000 per year to help finance his wife's career.


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Friday, December 23
WHOINTERESTEDTHE SKINNY

Miguel Tejada
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Dec 23 - So far, no one has met the Orioles' asking price for shortstop Miguel Tejada, The Baltimore Sun reports. The most serious talks have been with the Cubs, who are offering a package that includes right-handed pitcher Mark Prior. Baltimore would prefer Carlos Zambrano because of Prior's recent history of elbow troubles. The Cubs reportedly want left-hander Erik Bedard in the deal, but won't include top outfield prospect Felix Pie.
Cubs second baseman Todd Walker, center fielder Corey Patterson and pitcher Rich Hill have also been mentioned in a deal.

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Dec 23 - The Diamondbacks and Blue Jays are on the verge of completing a trade that would send Troy Glaus and a prospect to Toronto in exchange for pitcher Miguel Batista and second baseman Orlando Hudson, ESPN's Peter Gammons has learned.
WHOINTERESTEDTHE SKINNY

Kevin Millwood
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Dec 23 - The Rangers on Thursday stepped up their pursuit of Kevin Millwood, offering the right-handed starter a three-year deal worth more than $30 million, The Dallas Morning News reports. According to The Boston Globe, the Red Sox have expressed significant interest in Millwood. There were indications Thursday night the Red Sox were trying to arrange a visit for Millwood.
Millwood's agent, Scott Boras, is believed to be seeking a five-year deal.

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Julio Lugo
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Dec 23 - The Devil Rays and Red Sox continued talks Thursday about a deal that could send shortstop Julio Lugo and possibly center fielder Joey Gathright to Boston, the Tampa Tribune reports.
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Dec 23 - After failing to land Eric Byrnes in a trade last offseason, the Pirates have renewed their interest in the free-agent outfielder, the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reports. Team officials have spoken the past two days with Byrnes' agent, Mike Sasson.
"I really think Pittsburgh would be a great fit," Sasson told the newspaper. "It's a blue-collar town, and Eric's a lunch-pail kind of guy. He'll break through walls for you."
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Hey VEL, just curious, from a Red Sox fans point of view, which player going from Boston to New York hurt the most:

1. Wade Boggs
2. Roger Clemens (even though he went to Toronto first)
3. Johnny Damon

I'm not being malicious, i'm just curious of your opinion.
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Jays get:
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Dbacks get:
2B Orlando Hudson
RP Miguel Batista

Not a good trade for Toronto.
I sort of agree.
The Jays do need a legit HR threat/RBI guy, it should have came in the form of an outfielder, as the Jays are heavy loaded in the infield.

However, Batista had no place on the team anymore, especially at the sum of money he'd be making. Hudson was my favourite Jay, that's the tough part to swallow. Not to mention he's lightyears ahead defensively of any other 2B in the majors.

The Jays still need pop from the outfield. PLEASE MOVE HINSKE.
Wonder if Koskie or Overbay can be shifted to the outfield...?
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Hey VEL, just curious, from a Red Sox fans point of view, which player going from Boston to New York hurt the most:

1. Wade Boggs
2. Roger Clemens (even though he went to Toronto first)
3. Johnny Damon

I'm not being malicious, i'm just curious of your opinion.
Honeslty "going to the yankees" none of the above.

Tony Clark, he was supposed to be a force here and he sucked, and they stuck with him and he sucked and he made good money and then went to the Yankees and had a good year.

Boggs didn't mean much, because he was on the downside of his career, was a very selfish player and didn't have a ton of fans after the whole Margo Adams things.

Clemens did hurt, but the pain was already felt when he had those great years in Toronto, which he went to "be closer to home".

Damon, he's in his prime and it's a direct swing, (- for red sox, + for yankees) but that being said, he's 32, and had his best year every (including playing through injuries) in a contract year. I would have liked to see him stay, and would have considered 5yr 50mil, but I wouldn't have given him the contract the yanks did...

So yeah, me Personally Tony Clark.
Most Red Sox fans over time Roger Clemens
Current knee jerk reacion, Damon.

But keep in mind there has been many more, plus I think a few yankees that went to the red sox.
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Clemens going sucked the most. Watching him fail in the playoffs was pretty sweet though. I mean the Yankees still won which sucked since I hate them, but he didn't really help, if anything he hurt them. I

The "Rrrogggeerr" chants at Fenway where classic too.
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Mike Matheny, 35
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It seems likely Atlanta will send Ryan Langerhans to Cleveland, who would then send Coco Crisp to Boston
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The Red Sox can't afford to trade Manny for Prior, the offense would be non-existant compared to years past. Losing Damon already hurts.

The other thing, just because the Red Sox need a player doesn't mean they can get him. Sure the Twins need offense, but they aren't just going to make a bad trade with the Red Sox so they can have a center fielder. What bats would the Red Sox have that would justify the Twins giving up the face of their franchise?
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Yawn, really, nothing new? come'on... I mean... at least try and be a poster, rather then a poster child.

awaits the PM's.. "leave poor dave alone, all he went through, daddy raping him, mommy beating him, grandma taking him in for the SS money and being born via salad tongs giving him down syndrome, it's not he's fault he's a horrible poster that likes to dish it out but can never take it, likes to make claims and never explain them, likes to say things and when proved wrong can't be a man and admit it, really, it's not his fault"

anyway, back to baseball (but wadding, if you have a chance, don't forget the football thread, where this whole thing started of you taking a hissy fit because I said it was possible that SD could be Indy... and umm, what happened last weekend?.
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The Red Sox can't afford to trade Manny for Prior, the offense would be non-existant compared to years past. Losing Damon already hurts.

The other thing, just because the Red Sox need a player doesn't mean they can get him. Sure the Twins need offense, but they aren't just going to make a bad trade with the Red Sox so they can have a center fielder. What bats would the Red Sox have that would justify the Twins giving up the face of their franchise?
if they delt Manny for prior it would free up a lot of money and I'm sure they wouldn't stop there.

As for Hunter, something like Milledge, Marte and a picther like Arroyo. would be the type of package I'd think both teams would look at.

Twins get young, cheap, good prospects and a mlb pitcher.

Assuming the sox make a sign before trade deal, meaning they sign Hunter before the trade, I could even see possible a pitching prospect tossed in by the sox, making it a 4-1.
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