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Old 01-01-2006, 04:55 PM   #1161
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I wonder if anyone is going to pick up Juan Gonzalez? So much potential, but so often injured anymore. It seems to me he'd make a great DH, as good as a Frank Thomas.
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If the Pirates give up on Craig Wilson, it would be a huge mistake. Why do you think thaqt, Miz?

The only thing I can think of is his lower than desired avg. Yet the Pirates tried to land Byrnes and his avg. is not much better.
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Littlefield has addressed three of his four targeted positions for upgrade this offseason, with only right field remaining. He has not ruled out using Craig Wilson or Jody Gerut in right, perhaps as a platoon, but reiterated his preference to find a new starter from the outside.
"We want to try to get a power bat that's been productive, hopefully with some solid defense, someone who fits into our lineup," Littlefield said. "We're out there working to find that guy."
He added that is more likely to occur through free agency than a trade.


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I don't think Littlefield is stupid enough to bench Wilson due to his .265 average, he has posted .355-.360 OBP in every season he's played along with a .500 SLG. Even if his 2004 was a fluke (which I don't think it was, its not surprising he hits 29 home runs when he finally plays 155 games), his numbers before that were an .872 OPS and 18 HR in only 116 games. I don't know what FA corner OFer Littlefield thinks is going to produce better than that. Certainly not Sosa or Hidalgo.

I'd like to see St. Louis go after him, they could use an upgrade over Larry Bigbie/So Taguchi. If ATL trades Langerhans to Cleveland they might want to look Wilson's way also.
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I agree with you on the points about Wilson. Of course right away I begin to think about the Jays. The need for pop from the outfield remains and this would be a match, IMO.
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As far as Gonzalez, i don't think so, he's riskier than Thomas. Thomas is only 2 years removed from 150+ games and 42 homers, Juan Gone hasn't played more than half a season since 2001. I can't think of a single AL team other than the Yankees that might take a chance on him.
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Man, Toronto would've been perfect if they would've acted before Pittsburgh signed Joe Randa. Pirates desperately needed a 3rd basemen, Toronto had 3 quality ones. Koskie for Wilson probably would've been a match.
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Juan can't command too much cash, one would think. A one year contract with incentives seems to be all he could expect, making him affordable to anyone.
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Man, Toronto would've been perfect if they would've acted before Pittsburgh signed Joe Randa. Pirates desperately needed a 3rd basemen, Toronto had 3 quality ones. Koskie for Wilson probably would've been a match.
The Jays can't seem to move Koskie. I don't understand it. Nor do I understand trying to trade him. I see players have injured years/off years bounce back all the time. Teams seem to want Hillenbrand, which is understandable. (Just wish Hinske [broken record here] could be moved)

Although yes, a trade of Koskie for Wilson would make perfet sence at the time.
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This is true, but I'm struggling to think of an AL team whose current DH is worse than Juan Gonzalez. The Yankees don't really know who their DH is right now which is why they might give him a chance. If he gets hurt or doesn't produce, they can use Cairo/Phillips and go back to their plan of using it to give their people rest.
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I didn't finish my thoughts on Koskie...

He can be an upgrade at 1b for Toronto, I see him there. He can DH at times as a rest and let Hillenbrand switch off with him. I see no role for Hinske anymore. Plus, Hinske tends to complain when he doesn't get playing time. If he'd be comfortable in a role position, fine. He doesn't seem to feel that's a duty for him yet.

Koskie is a 'team guy', he'd play 1b if asked. He's a great character guy and teams need those, especially ones that can produce.
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What I don't get is Toronto's fascination with Hillenbrand. JP took him off the block the other day. He's not that much better than Hinske/Koskie but has much higher trade value. JP seems set with Glaus at third, Hillenbrand at DH. Not really any spot for Hinske or Koskie right now.
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I didn't finish my thoughts on Koskie...

He can be an upgrade at 1b for Toronto, I see him there. He can DH at times as a rest and let Hillenbrand switch off with him. I see no role for Hinske anymore. Plus, Hinske tends to complain when he doesn't get playing time. If he'd be comfortable in a role position, fine. He doesn't seem to feel that's a duty for him yet.

Koskie is a 'team guy', he'd play 1b if asked. He's a great character guy and teams need those, especially ones that can produce.
Maybe before they got Overbay
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I think Hillenbrand and him had a gentleman's agreement. I believe JP is honouring that.
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Koskie to the outfield?
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In the end I see Hinske being moved (Baltimore has previously shown interest), Koskie sitting the bench and giving Overbay, Glaus, and Hillenbrand days off at 1B/3B/DH, and JP getting a corner OF from outside. But to move Hinske Toronto better be willing to eat some slaray.
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What I don't get is Toronto's fascination with Hillenbrand. JP took him off the block the other day. He's not that much better than Hinske/Koskie but has much higher trade value. JP seems set with Glaus at third, Hillenbrand at DH. Not really any spot for Hinske or Koskie right now.

i can't get peoples fascination with koskie. he strikes out too much and has a below average Batting average


Hinske being moved to the outfield makes no sense to me considering they re-sgned reed johnson and still have catalanatto. I would like to see the Jays pick up a base stealing threat.
 
Old 01-01-2006, 10:23 PM   #1178
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Last year his strike outs were very high. I believe it had a lot to do with him pressing. You know, trying to prove himself to Toronto/Canadian fans. Then he got hurt, when he came back he pressed even more still. I really believe last year was just a tough year for him. I like JP's direction, and I think he's done things that have been in the very best interest of the Jays now, and into the future, but I wish he wasn't soured (rumoured) with Koskie. He needs a chance to prove himself.
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Last year his strike outs were very high. I believe it had a lot to do with him pressing. You know, trying to prove himself to Toronto/Canadian fans. Then he got hurt, when he came back he pressed even more still. I really believe last year was just a tough year for him. I like JP's direction, and I think he's done things that have been in the very best interest of the Jays now, and into the future, but I wish he wasn't soured (rumoured) with Koskie. He needs a chance to prove himself.

I also like JP"S direction, but I also think Koskie's salary would be better spent on a base stealing threat.
 
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Well there's no doubt the Jays are slow. Rios lead the team with 14(?) stolen bases last year. Wells used to be a bit of a stealing threat as is Hinske to a degree. The Jays do run the bases well... *grasping here...
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I was just looking something up of Koskie. He played some RF for Minnesota back in 1999. Not much mind you. I wonder if the plan is to put him in the OF afterall.. if they can't move him. With all due respect to Catalanotto and Reed, they lack punch.

You know, there's no way JP will keep things as they are. Too complicated and the players will grumble over time.
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yeah 5 players for 3 positions won't sit well. especially with our lack of power in right/left field.
 
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What a deal that would be...I like Seo, but I have a feeling big league hitters will soon pick up on his pitches.

And then dumping Matsui, always a great thing...I'd ask for Lugo in the deal, but even if they refused I'd make the initial deal in a heartbeat.

Plus, that would open up a spot in the rotation for Aaron Heilman, who said he wants to be dealt if he's NOT used in a starting capacity
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Jan 3 - The Orioles would like to decide the fate of shortstop Miguel Tejada within the next several days, the Boston Herald reports. Among the possible trade partners with Baltimore are the Red Sox, who are offering outfielder Manny Ramirez and pitcher Matt Clement in exchange for Tejada and an outfielder, who could be 22-year-old prospect Nick Markakis. Though there are other teams interested in Tejada, none may be able to offer the package put forth by the Red Sox. The Cubs reportedly have offered Mark Prior and outfielder Corey Patterson in a package for Tejada. The Astros also have expressed interest in the shortstop, but no one can offer Baltimore a hitter like Ramirez in return.

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Jan 3 - A blockbuster four-team trade involving Manny Ramirez could be in the works, the New York Daily News reports. The Mets would get Ramirez from the Red Sox, as well as reliever Danys Baez from the Devil Rays. The Sox would receive shortstop Miguel Tejada from the Orioles and center fielder Joey Gathright from the D-Rays. Baltimore would get Julio Lugo from Tampa and possibly starters Kris Benson from the Mets and Matt Clement from Boston. The Rays would get cheap players with big upsides, such as Aaron Heilman and Jae Seo from the Mets. According to the Boston Herald, the Sox are still in Manny-Tejada talks. The Sox are offering Ramirez and Clement to the Orioles in exchange for Tejada and an outfielder, possibly 22-year-old prospect Nick Markakis.
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Wait, so this putz, wants a trade, but now, only if they pickup $40mil in options?

WTF, let him sit and earn nothing.
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Wait, so this putz, wants a trade, but now, only if they pickup $40mil in options?

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Astros sign Preston Wilson, Pirates sign Jeromy Burnitz (not Baltimore as earlier reported)
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I'd bet good money if Craig Wilson gets traded and starts for another team he'll have a much more productive season than Burnitz.
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I don't quite understand why people rag on Burnitz. Apart from the fact he commands a high dollar value, he still puts up decent offensive numbers. That said, Wilson (unless there is something about him we don't know) has a better overall upside.
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I see the Jays picked up a decent backup catcher. In fact maybe he'll push Zaun for the starting role. Although I doubt it. Jason Phillips. (His batting avg. is startling low.)
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He'll battle Quiroz for the backup position. I doubt he makes the team.
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As for why I rag on Burnitz, here are his last 3 seasons not including 2004's bloated Coors numbers

.258/.322/.435 (.757)
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And he's 37.
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That's what was said of Zaun.
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2001 - 34HR 100RBI (MIL)
2002 - 19HR 54RBI (METS)
2003 - 31HR 77RBI (METS/LAD)
2004 - 37HR 110RBI (COL)
2005 - 24HR 87RBI (CHC)

That's production you failed to mention. I'm not trying to "VEL" you, but don't pick and choose your stats like that.

Like I stated, he's getting long in the tooth (37)
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He was great in 2001 and has been on a steady decline since then. 19 HR/54 RBI for the Mets is supposed to impress me? His power was good in 2003 but you can;t ignore a sub-.300 OBP. 2004, like I said, Coors, I can't name another team in the league that Burnitz would put up 37/110. Preston Wilson had 144 RBI's for Colorado, btw. And 2005 was just a very average season.

Not saying he sucks, but he's not near an elite corner OF or near worth what hes making.
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2002 is when everyone just wrote him off or started to. We both agree on most things about him, Im simply saying he deserves some form of credit.
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Mets gets: RHP Duaner Sanchez, RHP Steve Schmoll
Dodgers get: RHP Jae Seo, LHP Tim Hamulack

Eh, I woulda preferred Baez but Sanchez is good enough. Dunno who the fuck Steve Schmoll is though.

Also, the Mets signed Bret Boone to a minor league deal.....maybe 2005 was an off-year
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