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i pretty much figured koskie would go back to minny.
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Ryan Franklin to the Phillies
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WTF do you want?
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http://espndeportes.espn.go.com/story?id=396286
lmfao.. I've heard 2 theroys. 1) He never wanted to leave, his wife did, so he said he wanted out, but made it difficult to be delt. So, he looked good for her, but wouldn't have to leave. 2) The sox called him today and said "Look, we've tried, but we're not going to be able to trade you. Now, if you want to save face with the fans and not be boo'd every at bat all year long, here's what you do". |
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JT Snow has signed with Boston. Corey Patterson has been traded to Baltimore.
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WTF do you want?
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Now Manny's agent is saying manny was misquoted and didn't say he wants to stay...
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Corey Koskie traded to the Brewers
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I think I said Manny wasn't going to be traded right when the off-season started and said this was the same old shit.
Now watch Manny get traded tomorrow after I made this post haha |
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just fucking keep him away from NY mets
pleassssssssse
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Bob Klapisch of the Bergen Record, is reporting that Pedro's toe isn't in such bad shape as earlier reported by the Mets and Pedro.
Klapisch states: "People close to Martinez are whispering that the injury, while not entirely cured, is nothing severe. Yet, by treating it as such, Pedro and the Mets will have the perfect "out" from the World Baseball Classic in March. Friends say Pedro isn't crazy about pitching in the tournament, but has no way of taking himself off the roster without incurring the wrath of the entire Dominican Republic. Martinez saw how heavily Alex Rodriguez was being leveraged by Dominican officials, and realized he couldn't win that fight, either. The exemption, of course, is an injury. By claiming he's not game-ready, the Mets will be able to play the role of the heavy and keep Martinez off the Dominican roster, the same way the Yankees blocked Jorge Posada, Randy Johnson and Mike Mussina." Obviously nothing official, but if it's true then YESSSSSSSSS!!! If true, this is probably the best offseason move the Mets have made thus far |
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Milwaukee will do well with Koskie. Weak trade IMO by JP. I mean he traded away pitching prospects to get Overbay and now he trades for pitching prospects for Koskie. This, IMO, was nothing more than accomodating Koskie and freeing up money and the log jam in the infield.
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I predict Gabe Gross will turn into a 20 HR hitter this year for Millwaukee. The Brewers will trade one of their vetern outfielders to make room for him. Milwaukee is on the rise.
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bye koskie, good to see he's taking his weak batting average somewhere else. IT had to be done.
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lol he's be a 20 hr hitter in the pre season that's about it. |
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I meant Milwaukee, you quoted me before I editted... Gross will blossom.
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2005 numbers Brevard County (A): 18 games, 1-1, 0.79 ERA, 1.19 WHIP Huntsville (AA): 16 games, 3-1, 3.38 ERA, 1.67 WHIP New Britain (AA): 5 games, 1-0, 7.04 ERA, 2.22 WHIP Rochester (AAA): 3 games, 0-2, 8.53 ERA, 1.89 WHIP 7 year minor league career: 41-39, 4.13 ERA, 1.34 WHIP Don't expect him in a Toronto uniform, ever |
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Toronto is also paying Koskie $7.35 million over the next 2 years to not play for them.
Hillenbrand should've been dealt. |
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no way. Hillenbrand > Koskie
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Hillenbrand is slightly better, yes, but Koskie/Hinske nets you nothing in return. Hillenbrand has much higher trade value and isn't that much better. It's worth the very slight downgrade in production to get something good back in a trade.
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WTF do you want?
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true enough. we could have probably gotten something more, but I still do like Hillenbrand alot more than koskie
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Would have better holding on to Koskie than paying him to play elsewhere.
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yeah but where would you play him?
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Off the bench, in the outfield...
Simply trading him for the sake of trading him is a weak, knee jerk reaction. Things can change, injuries other team's suddenly having a need. Trading koskie and say Lilly for a better OF or P, etc. Seems to me JP was too eager to trade Koskie. Perhaps there was more to it (Koskie asking to be traded behind the scenes) |
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Speaking of Toronto OF, this is what JP told the Sun will happen "if all goes well"
vs. RHP LF Hinske CF Wells RF Catalanatto Bench: Rios, Johnson vs. LHP LF Johnson CF Wells RF Rios Bench: Hinske, Catalanatto |
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strong rumor going around that Theo Esptein will be back with the Red Sox in some "roll" starting next week.
I think Luccino has the president title, and they have "co-gm's", it's been talked for awhile that he stills "advises", going to be interesting if it happens where he fits in. |
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Yeah I don't believe it for a second. I think it was more an "if the season started today" type statement. I still expect them to get a corner OF.
I don't like Rios at all, Johnson is the definition of a 4th OF, Catalanotto and Hinske can both do great things. I say try to package Rios in a deal with someone (possibly Lilly) for Craig Wilson or someone similar. Let Cat platoon with Hinske until the deadline and trade whichever one produces the least (most likely Hinske). And you enter 2006 with: LF Eric Hinske/Frank Catalanotto CF Vernon Wells RF Craig Wilson DH Shea Hillenbrand Bench: Reed Johnson I like that okay |
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Really though, I'm shocked how little interest there was in Koskie if all it took was a 25 y/o AA reliever with zero chance of a big league future. Koskie could've upgraded alot of teams bench and a few teams' lineup.
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Can't argue with your thinking, Miz... well except I believe Rios holds 'some' potential. I'd rather insert Hinske in the fantasy trade you had in order to get Wilson.
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I would rather keep Hinske only because of a Glaus injury concern. If he goes down, Hillenbrand would play 3rd which is always an adventure. I believe by the end of the season Glaus, injured or not, will be the full time DH, and it'd be good to have Hinske around.
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What will became of Weaver? I know I've mentioned him before, but it's looking more and mire like the Dodgers and he are going to part ways. I guess I'm surprised more teams don't seem interested in him.
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I still think Cincinnati is a great fit. LA has a deadline of Sunday (tomorrow) to sign him however
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From an article in todays LA Times
------------------ Colletti has not discussed signing free-agent pitcher Jeff Weaver with his agent, Scott Boras, in the last two days, although they plan to talk this weekend. The Dodgers have until Sunday night to sign Weaver. Weaver reportedly is seeking a four- or five-year deal worth about $10 million a year. The Dodgers don't want to commit to more than three years, and believe the asking price is too high. There has been speculation that Weaver would accept a one-year deal and pursue free agency again next year. However, Colletti said he has not had any discussions with Boras about signing Weaver for one year. |
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If Weaver was willing to sign a one year deal, I'd think almost every team would suddenly become interested in him. Plus, I'd venture to say he'd get his 10 mil, if not more for that year.
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Tejada rescinds trade demand
BALTIMORE (AP) -- Miguel Tejada rescinded his demand to be traded by the Orioles, telling team officials during a phone call Saturday that he's willing to help Baltimore become a contender in the AL East. Angered over the Orioles' inability to garner additional talent this offseason, Tejada twice expressed his desire to be traded, the last time on Dec. 29. But he backed off that stance during a conversation with teammate Melvin Mora and vice president Jim Duquette. "Miguel said all he wanted was for the team to improve. He wants to win," Duquette said. "He doesn't know how that got blown out of proportion, and he feels terrible the way it played out." After Tejada expressed the desire for "a change of scenery" in early December, the Orioles began fielding trade requests for the three-time All-Star. But the Orioles, who signed Tejada to a six-year, $72 million contract in December 2003, had no intention of merely giving him away. "What we're doing is looking for a fair and reasonable return," executive vice president Mike Flanagan said earlier Saturday. "He's a guy that's under a long-term contract with us, a targeted player, a terrific player. We're just not going to do something for the sake of doing something." Now, the Orioles intend to do nothing. "This is the first time we heard this directly from him," Duquette said. "We're elated that he's chosen to stay. We're all committed to improving the team, and it's easier to do it with Miguel than without him." Tejada in recent weeks refused to return calls from Flanagan, Duquette and first-year manager Sam Perlozzo. But on Saturday he told Mora, one of his closest friends on the team, that he wanted to clear the air. The announcement came on a day the Orioles drew more than 10,000 fans to the Convention Center for FanFest, an annual offseason event attended by Flanagan, Duquette, Perlozzo and more than a dozen players. Tejada was not in the building, but he was the main topic of conversation. "I totally believe we're not getting the whole picture from Miggy. He's a great kid, he's always been a great kid," Perlozzo said before the conversation between Duquette and Tejada. "I can't believe the faucet went from on to off just like that." Perlozzo expressed hope that Tejada would be in attendance at the first full-squad workout on Feb. 21, and now it appears that he will get his wish. "Sometimes Miggy gets into situations where he says something he doesn't mean and doesn't know how to get out of it. I'm hoping this is that kind of situation," Perlozzo said. "I've got to believe this is going to come out as a positive for the Orioles, one way or another." The best-case scenario for Baltimore was Tejada backing off his stance and displaying the same enthusiasm that has enabled him to become the team leader in the clubhouse, in the dugout and on the field. His leadership abilities, as much as his .304 batting average, 26 homers and 98 RBIs, are what make Tejada the Orioles' most valuable player. "I know he's a little frustrated, but I can't imagine starting the season without Miguel Tejada," pitcher Bruce Chen said. "He's going to be very hard to replace. He's a team leader, a good player. I'm pretty sure he's going to be back. Once spring training starts, I'm sure he'll be OK." With Tejada playing a key role, the Orioles bolted into first place early in 2005 and stayed atop the AL East deep into June. But Baltimore couldn't keep up the pace and tumbled into fourth place, in part because of injuries and the steroid-related suspension of first baseman Rafael Palmeiro. It's hard to determine if Tejada's production tailed off because of the collapse, but he batted .277 in August and .264 in September and October. He hit only four homers after July 27. Losing -- and Palmeiro's suggestion that his positive steroid test might have come from a tainted injection of vitamin B-12 provided by Tejada -- clearly disturbed the shortstop. His ire became more pronounced this winter after the Toronto Blue Jays fortified their roster while the Orioles were outbid for free agent Paul Konerko, lost free-agent closer B.J. Ryan and failed to add a pitcher to a young starting rotation. Adding pitching coach Leo Mazzone, catcher Ramon Hernandez, reliever LaTroy Hawkins and first baseman Jeff Conine was not enough to ease Tejada's frustration. But now that Flanagan has a content Tejada on board, he can focus on a different kind of deal. "It hasn't made us work harder," Flanagan said, "it's made it harder to work." http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_yl...v=ap&type=lgns |
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You know, I wouldn't be surprised if he's boo'ed at Camden Yards... while still playing for them.
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