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Old 01-20-2006, 06:57 PM   #161
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Old 01-20-2006, 10:59 PM   #162
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LOL suing for 1 million last time I heard?
That was the original threat... but now his lawyer says he just wants a public apology and money donated to a charity of his choice, I think he wanted it to go to a charity for abused women last I heard.
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Old 01-22-2006, 11:06 PM   #163
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Old 01-23-2006, 12:20 AM   #164
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Wow, Kobe "Mamba" Bryant scored 81 pts tonight.
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Old 01-23-2006, 02:22 AM   #165
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I thought after 62 in three quarters a month ago that Kobe had missed his once in a lifetime chance to truly record history.

Um... I guess not. Seriously, what the hell man. That was ridiculous.

Good thing we won tho. Woulda been sad if we'd lost.
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Old 01-23-2006, 02:28 AM   #166
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Kobe is pretty good.
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Old 01-23-2006, 02:34 AM   #167
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Old 01-23-2006, 11:55 AM   #168
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Kobe scored 81 and the Lakers only won by 18 (allowing 104 total). Anybody think the Lakers should start focusing on defense?
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It is kind of funny because in the last issue of ESPN the Magazine, Sports Guy that was saying how stupid Kobe was for sitting out the last quarter against Dallas and how people only care about the number, not about the sportsmanship.

All I can say is that is just plain rediculous. He could score zero points for three games and still be averaging 20.
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Old 01-23-2006, 12:22 PM   #170
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Last night, I was watching the Pistons/Rockets game, and down the stretch, T-Mac had an opportunity to take a contested 3-pointer to cut the lead to two, but instead he made a sweet behind-the-back pass to Luther Head for the three.

As they were running back on defense, Fred McLeod (the Pistons' FSN announcer) said something to the effect of "Not a lot of superstars in this league would have passed up that shot." As he said it, I thought *coughKobecough*, and then I get up today to find out that Kobe dropped EIGHTY-ONE points!

I may not like the guy, or the way he plays the game, but damned if that isn't one of the most impressive individual sporting efforts I've ever seen.
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Old 01-23-2006, 01:22 PM   #171
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I'm not going to say it's not impressive, but it is downright greedy. Especially in this day and age. The guy put up almost 50 shots!

Is this going to be the game that sparks the Lakers? I don't think so. The Lakers need to play team ball, not give the ball to Kobe and let him go off ball.

The Lakers are lucky they're getting a couple of days to rest. If not, who knows if Kobe would have enough energy to go next game and score even 10. And how embarrasing would it be if the Lakers score less than 81 next game?
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Old 01-23-2006, 02:04 PM   #172
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I'm not going to say it's not impressive, but it is downright greedy. Especially in this day and age. The guy put up almost 50 shots!

Is this going to be the game that sparks the Lakers? I don't think so. The Lakers need to play team ball, not give the ball to Kobe and let him go off ball.

The Lakers are lucky they're getting a couple of days to rest. If not, who knows if Kobe would have enough energy to go next game and score even 10. And how embarrasing would it be if the Lakers score less than 81 next game?
It's true that he was playing against Toronto, but if I recall correctly Kobe went 28-46 from the field, 7-13 from 3 point land and 18-20 from the line. Those percentages come out to 61% from the field 53% from 3 point land and 90 percent from the line. If a guy can go out and shoot 61% for FG's in a game, then I would let him shoot 75 shots.

Whereas some people look at as ball hogging or whatever, I look at it as a defense that could not stop an elite scorer. If the Toronto coach was smart, he would have put 2 and 3 guys on Kobe and not just 1. Even if they did and Kobe had to pass and give open looks to guys there is no guarantee he would have made it. This was a result of poor defense and not great coaching, but more importantly an offensive explosion from one of the best in the league
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Old 01-23-2006, 03:12 PM   #173
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I'm not saying that the Lakers shouldn't let Kobe shoot. The Lakers need Kobe to shoot. They've only won one game this year when Kobe wasn't the leading scorer. But to let him shoot as much as he does game in and game out is ridiculous.

Back to another argument I was trying to make. The Lakers need to work on locking down their defense. They've scored 4032 points total this year and have given up 3945. That's a difference of 87 points. I wouldn't call that getting the job done.

Also, It doesn't really seem to matter how many points Kobe scores (as long as he leads the team.) The Lakers are 11-10 when he scores 35+ and 12-9 when he scores under 35.
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So you are saying that last night, when Kobe got the hot hand, you would have made him pass up shots because the team needed to get more involved?

I'm sorry buddy, but scoring 40 points on 40% shooting in a losing effort is one thing, but 81 points on 60% in a winning effort is another.
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Old 01-23-2006, 04:13 PM   #175
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Nope, not saying that at all.

What I am saying is Kobe shouldn't take as many shots as he does. It doesn't matter how many defenders he has on him, he still shoots. There has to be some open opportunities for other players. He doesn't find them because he doesn't look for them.

My argument isn't just about last night. It's about the Lakers season to this point. They need to play better defense, and they need to distribute the ball more on offense.
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Old 01-23-2006, 04:20 PM   #176
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Old 01-23-2006, 05:54 PM   #177
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Fucking almost 10 years and Kobe still hasn't figured out there are other people on the team?
That's the exact point I've been trying to make.
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Old 01-23-2006, 10:17 PM   #179
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81 points is sick. Might be more impressive than Wilt's 100.
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Old 01-24-2006, 03:33 PM   #181
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ESPN is reporting that Artest will be traded for Peja straight up pending league approval
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Old 01-24-2006, 04:33 PM   #182
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81 points is sick. Might be more impressive than Wilt's 100.
If you compare the stats of the two games, Kobe's 81 meant a lot more to his team.

I say it was more impressive than the 100 point game.
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Eh, I don't like the Kings, but I always liked Artest and the Pacers, but now I don't know if I like Artest on the Kings and I hate Peja on the Pacers.
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Artest says he doesn't want to play for Sacramento and now the Kings have backed out
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81 points is an amazing performance, but Kobe will always be a professional loser until he finds a way to involve his teammates.

Wonder how Peja feels, he was all but gone until Artest backed out. Gotta think he's on the market now. As a Bulls fan, knowing Chicago is a place he'd go to, I reckon we have to go after him. Could use a strong scorer instead of relying on 15-20 from three or four guys a night.
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Old 01-24-2006, 08:13 PM   #186
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The 81 wasn't better than 100.

1. They played defense back then. Not many teams play good defense these days.
2. Wilt shot nearly the same percentage from the field and went 28/32 at the free throw line, which is amazing for him.
3. They played defense back then.

I would rank it on up there, but I would easily consider putting MJ's 63 against Boston in the 80's above this one.
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Vince Carter critisized Kobe's 81 point game. That's rich coming from him.


Carter warns kids: Don't be like Kobe
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Haha Carter talking about being a team player.
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LOL yeah, youd think this is Chauncy Billups talking not Carter.
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Vince Carter is just jealous. I guess teaching kids how not to give it 100% in a game in order to force a trade would fair a lot better. Also..since when does it begin to be Kobe's fault..after he scores 50? or 70..75? idiot.

In response to Outlaw, I don't have the stats in front of me but, the fact that Wilt had all those FT's, and he was like a foot taller than the opposing centers in those days, let's face it...i would think the points came easier. Kobe with all his J's, not as many freethrows, maybe a little harder? But the if the Raptors had any clue maybe they coulda doubleteamed here and there.
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Did you watch the game? It wasn't like they were triple teaming Smush Parker and giving Kobe uncontested jump shots, Kobe was just that good
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1. I don't think Outlaw knows enough about the 100 point game

2. Kobe was a professional loser until he won three straight NBA Championships
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BCWWF you've said like 3 really dumb things in your last few posts.

1) Wilt Chamberline was a tree playing with bushes. He was tall and 260 pounds. That was unheard of in his day. Kobe Bryant is a shooting guard playing in a big mans league.

2) Kobe was only in the league for like 2-3 years before he won some rings and i dont care what anyone says. If Kobe wasnt there. They dont win those rings. I specifically remember one Kobe Bryant taking over in Game 4 of the finals while Shaq was fouled out on the bench with 7 minutes to go. If the Lakers dont win that game. Indiana might have a title.

3) About 75% of the league players dont have rings. Maybe more then that. Does that make them professional losers? Cmon get off it.
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81 points... that's nice... would have been nicer if a guy who was shooting 59% passed a bit more.

yeah. this wasn't a case of a "great night" if he shot even 75%, I'd feel different, this is simply a guy that took too many shots.
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BCWWF you've said like 3 really dumb things in your last few posts.

1) Wilt Chamberline was a tree playing with bushes. He was tall and 260 pounds. That was unheard of in his day. Kobe Bryant is a shooting guard playing in a big mans league.

2) Kobe was only in the league for like 2-3 years before he won some rings and i dont care what anyone says. If Kobe wasnt there. They dont win those rings. I specifically remember one Kobe Bryant taking over in Game 4 of the finals while Shaq was fouled out on the bench with 7 minutes to go. If the Lakers dont win that game. Indiana might have a title.

3) About 75% of the league players dont have rings. Maybe more then that. Does that make them professional losers? Cmon get off it.
Ummmmm....if I said some pretty stupid things, how come you agreed with both of my points?
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1. I don't think Outlaw knows enough about the 100 point game

2. Kobe was a professional loser until he won three straight NBA Championships
I know a pretty good bit about it. He shot 28/32 from free throws. He hit 38/63 shots or somewhere around that number. The thing is, you know that whole Hack-a-Shaq method? Wilt was a not so good free throw shooter, so people would do the same thing to him. Another interesting tidbit, Guy Rodgers had 20 assists that game. The whole Lakers team had 18. Just something to think about.

Kobe was a professional loser? Seriously, I dislike that whole argument that you are defined by rings. Karl Malone was one of the best players there has been in the NBA. But, since guys like Tayshaun Prince, Darko, Lindsey Hunter, etc. has a few rings, Karl Malone is a professional loser and the rest are winners. Get out of here.

But, you're right. HE won the titles. Had nothing to do with the MVP of those Championships, had nothing to do with Phil Jackson, Robert Horry, Rick Fox, Devan George, etc. etc. Get off me with that.
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81 points... that's nice... would have been nicer if a guy who was shooting 59% passed a bit more.

yeah. this wasn't a case of a "great night" if he shot even 75%, I'd feel different, this is simply a guy that took too many shots.
Again, watch the game. A good portion of the fourth quarter was his team mates passing him the ball at every opportunity. That accounts for a fair amount of shots.
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Again, watch the game. A good portion of the fourth quarter was his team mates passing him the ball at every opportunity. That accounts for a fair amount of shots.
So, every time he gets a Pass he's supposed to shoot?

yeah, I'm sure in the 4th, he was what, in the 60's so at that point it was a joke, and they decided just to see how high they could get him, but what was his % before the 4th?
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I dunno what his numbers were before the 4th quarter, I'm just saying that it was a an example of why some of his numbers were inflated. As far as the rest of the game, its nothing to see a guy take a lot of shots when he is feeling it.

In other news, the Peja-Artest trade is back on.

Great way for Artest to start a fan base in Sacramento
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