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Old 02-09-2004, 11:44 PM   #161
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No sign of The Rock yet, maybe it'll be one on one
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Old 02-09-2004, 11:45 PM   #162
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There is no doubt in my mind that Mick knows where catering is. He shouldn't be acting like he doesnt.



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Old 02-09-2004, 11:46 PM   #163
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Wrestlemania is 34 days away. there is plenty of time for The Rock to show up.
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Old 02-09-2004, 11:48 PM   #164
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Old 02-09-2004, 11:49 PM   #165
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stupid JR. He said Booker T is a 5 time IC Champion and then said he's won the IC title once
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Old 02-09-2004, 11:52 PM   #166
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Old 02-09-2004, 11:53 PM   #167
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No sign of The Rock yet, maybe it'll be one on one
Probably see The Rock next week since Raw is in Cali
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Old 02-09-2004, 11:54 PM   #169
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how many times has mick woke up on the floor covered in chips and other food products?
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Old 02-10-2004, 12:04 AM   #170
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Old 02-10-2004, 12:05 AM   #171
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Old 02-10-2004, 12:05 AM   #172
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Am I the only one who wasn't too impressed with the whole "Orton coward" thing?
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Old 02-10-2004, 12:08 AM   #173
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Me either Fryza, kind of got overshadowed by Orton kicking the crap out of Foley all night heh
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Old 02-10-2004, 12:11 AM   #174
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Old 02-10-2004, 12:13 AM   #175
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Old 02-10-2004, 12:14 AM   #176
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so does this mean a tag match next week?
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Old 02-10-2004, 12:18 AM   #177
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Booker T/RVD vs. Flair/Batista for the tag belts at Mania? Maybe? It's better than nothing for those guys
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Old 02-10-2004, 12:23 AM   #178
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uhhh so what happened with the triple threat match at the end of RAW? i just missed it...

I'll main event Wrestlemania! you see me you're outta luck.....

You don't like what I'm saying? Well I just don't give a FUCK!!!!
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Old 02-10-2004, 12:30 AM   #179
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isnt it kind of wierd that i started a thread so long ago about how undertaker should return as dead man some day cause the biker thing was gay.... and a lot of people said it wouldnt work with the "new" age of wwe..... and now he is coming back as dead man? hehe, sorry to gloat a little here and there. im just happy for the dead man coming back, i grew up with him.
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Old 02-10-2004, 12:38 AM   #180
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Well, I'm glad to see that Benoit won't be getting his rightful shot at the title.
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Old 02-10-2004, 12:41 AM   #181
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I can see BT/RVD vs Flair and Batista next week, maybe one of them turn on the other, or maybe when Rock shows up next week he helps cost them the tag titles. I got a feeling the match is going to be Orton/Batista/Flair vs RocknSock in a 3 on 2 match at Mania. That way Flair can do the JOB, and the kids get the rub.

RAW was really good this week, although I had some issues with logic, which I'll get to.

I liked how they managed to use RAW to sell the SD PPV in a somewhat logical manner. I mean with Vince being the czar of the WWE I guess he can do whatever he wants, but if he breaks any laws Austin gets to Stun him, but I'm sure Vince could just fire him, but then he would get reinstated by the BOD, at which point Austin can stun him, but then Bischoff could suspend him, but Austin could overrule that with a Stunner......ah who can keep up?

Anyway, I liked the Goldberg Spearing everyone deal, but I hope Austin doesn't get his revenge because I think they need Goldberg to look as strong as possible. Of course he still looked inept which is great for a face (note sarcasm again), but thats just WWE booking, you have to roll with the punches.

Actually, the way I see this all playing out is that Goldberg will face Lesnar at Mania (duh) and Austin will be added as the Guest Enforcer. What I was thinking is that Lesnar should win (duh again), and then after the match Austin has a beer with Goldberg, and at that point he can give him a Stunner to send him packing from the WWE (also getting his receipt for the Spear).

Jericho-Christian-Trish stuff moved along, storyline is solid, and Christian is emerging as one of the big time stars on RAW.

Flair-Benoit was pretty good, good old school booking, and of course Benoit goes over clean, which was the only sensible finish.

I liked Hunter's promo. Some people may not like the ego stroking in the promo about him being the real champion and blah blah blah, but the way I see it that actually makes sense. In the old WCW-WWF days, a WCW champ would go out of his way to bury the WWF champ and vice versa, so the same should happen here. The fans are smart enough to decide whether Hunter is telling the truth when he speaks.

Here's where the logic gets thrown out the window. So, all it takes to get in a contract is to sign it? I tell you what I'm going to do; next time a MLB player is about to sign a big money contract, I'm gonna come in with a stun gun and sign the thing, that way I get the money. Or maybe when a big time CEO is gonna sign a new contract full of million dollars in stock options and bonuses, I bust into the office blast someone with SCM and sign their contract, then I'll be rich biatch!

Why not just have HBK challenge Benoit to a match for the spot next week, the match ends in a draw, and because Benoit put his spot on the line and HBK drew with him, they decide to throw HBK into the mix at Mania. I dont get why everything has to be so complicated and end up being so illogical. Just an observation, and this really means nothing, but the fans seemed more into Benoit as a challenger then HBK as a challenger, but we're playing Kliq rules, so it doesn't matter. Looks like HHH wont have to lay down to lose his title, congrats big man!

Kane segment was good, I'm glad they let the cat out of the bag about Taker without having him show up. Again, as I said months ago, the less these guys touch the higher the interest will be for their match.

Foley segment was cool, looks like someone watches CNN, I wonder if John Kerry will challenge that coward George Bush to a Steel Cage match at Mania?

They seem to have opened the door to a tag match at Mania with Rock and Foley due to the Evolution beatdown (which was well done BTW). As someone else mentioned, next week they are in California I think that means Rocky is a lock. I just wish they would promote it, but what can you do?

Benoit-HBK should be pretty great next week, I expect a draw, and then that leads to the Ladder Match announcement.

Main event was solid, I really like how the slower pace builds up to hot finishes, I think thats a good thing when the guys can build up to a peak and make the fans really care about it. Orton continues to improve, and its cool that they consistantly put him in main events.

Overall a strong show, interesting to see how they bring back Rock, and I hope to God for the sake of the work Foley and Orton have put into their angle that they dont book Rock to do any comedy.
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isnt it kind of wierd that i started a thread so long ago about how undertaker should return as dead man some day cause the biker thing was gay.... and a lot of people said it wouldnt work with the "new" age of wwe..... and now he is coming back as dead man? hehe, sorry to gloat a little here and there. im just happy for the dead man coming back, i grew up with him.
I knew about this angle since about August I'm thinking.

I would be one of those people who would say that Taker as the Deadman cant work in 2004 for more than a short stint. So yeah, people are gonna mark out like crazy, just like they marked out when Hogan came back. But what will happen, just like it did with Hogan is that people realize its a tired act that belongs in a different time period and they will grow disinterested.

Now, thats not a guarantee, I mean people might stick with Taker long term, and maybe he should carry the company, but I doubt it. My guess is that by month two of the Deadman gimmick people will tired of it, and it wont do any business, and then Taker will have to go back to the Biker Taker, which is a better character for 2004.
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Old 02-10-2004, 12:56 AM   #183
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Whats worse is taht anyone could see this coming 1000 miles away.

I guess HHH has jobbed (?) clean enough for a lifetime to do it anymore.

So when Benoit wins the title off of HBK: "oh, I never actually LOST the title to Benoit".

HHH needs to fuck off.............

HBK/Benoit next week will be a #1 contender match. Benoit goes on to make Triple H TAP

*wakes up*

I can still hope right... RIGHT!?!

I hope they do something like Wrestlemania X. Even if Benoit has to beat HBK, I don't what to see a three way main eventing Wrestlemania. It could be worse though, they could add The Big Show and a McMahon in every corner.
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Old 02-10-2004, 03:26 AM   #184
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Old 02-10-2004, 03:37 AM   #185
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Old 02-10-2004, 03:44 AM   #186
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Old 02-10-2004, 05:25 AM   #187
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Old 02-10-2004, 05:34 AM   #188
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The one thing that I kind of liked with the Taker as the biker, though, was that it let him showed off a different style of wrestling than we saw with him as the Dead Man (remember all the no-selling that he did when under that gimmick in order to get it over well), and, like it or not, he felt more at home with it than as the Dead Man. But then again, I could be wrong, but I've been a Taker mark for so long now, and I enjoy his work in either gimmick. Many people were saying that it was downhill for the Taker once be became "Big Evil" (or American Bad Ass, or whatever you called him under that gimmick), but I did like him as the biker, as well. I liked that he used a lot of different techniques than what we saw in the past. In a way, because of that, I'm not looking forward to the revisiting of the Dead Man Gimmick as others are (though in a way, I AM looking forward to it, too), but I'm still enjoying this angle they are doing.

I have my OWN ideas, though, of how the Undertaker is going to reappear, because I don't think that they will let the biker gimmick fully die (the WWE isn't THAT willing).
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I noticed there were less missed spots. I guess McMahon's scare tactics are working.
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Old 02-10-2004, 08:59 AM   #191
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Raw didnt look to good this week despite Flair V Benoit and The Triple treat match that was about it the rest was interviews and promo's.

Im looking forward to the deadmans return better than his outdated biker gimik

I Think the rock will be back in two weeks time - not to bothered about him now though.

And as for the tag team situation i hope Flair and Batista defend at wrestlemania as theirs been no news of a match for either Batista, Ric, RVD or Booker T
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Benoit almost botched his line. Guess he's as surprised as anyone that he's actually being allowed to speak in HHH's presence.
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Old 02-10-2004, 12:14 PM   #198
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I'm so proud of Bill, he's learning words almost as fast as my dog
It's pretty cool that he's almost got the grammatical skills of a canine...
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Another solid show last night. What a way to open up the show. I'm sure Goldberg will probably spear Vince at Mania.

Anyway, I hope that Taker will show up like the week before Mania, because just having promos until Mania just doesn't work for me.

I'm not too thrilled about the possible triple threat match at Mania either. This sounds a lot like Summerslam when Austin erfused to get pinned by HHH, so they had Mick in the mix. I would almost guarantee Benoit will pin Michaels and possibly have Benoit/HHH at Backlash.
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