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Old 08-11-2006, 04:41 PM   #201
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HOw is winning 100 out of 115 matches giving the vibe of "underdog"?
He did say they failed.

EDIT: Oh, you said that, everyone posted and it went to the next page.
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Old 08-11-2006, 04:48 PM   #202
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That loss to Edge at NYR was clean....techincally. I mean sure it was following an Elimination Chamber, but the decision in the match that started immediately afterwards was untainted.
It still establishes he can't lose clean. It took two matches, one of which was unexpected, and all sorts of dirty stuff like that.
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Old 08-11-2006, 04:49 PM   #203
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Clean or not, man...that's a ridiculous ratio.
Oh, and I agree. I'm just saying it gets even worse when you consider he almost never jobs clean.
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Old 08-11-2006, 04:53 PM   #204
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I still think Hogan had a better record in 1992.
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Old 08-11-2006, 04:53 PM   #205
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Cena's like Flanders. It's almost comedic how he doesn't get screwed over.
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Old 08-11-2006, 04:53 PM   #206
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And don't even get me started on Goldberg.
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Old 08-11-2006, 04:53 PM   #207
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I said they failed.

But they kept pushing it like Cena was supposed to lose. How Angle was more talented as a wrestler. How Triple H was the same way. They were TRYING to make him an underdog, but they just did a shit job of it.
They said a lot of things. But what they did was another. By the time it got to Angle, we all knew Angle would be defeated time and again because of how inconceivable the title run had been prior. HHH was, at the time, the last logical hope for the end of the Cena tedium. But then he blasted thru him, looking in no way like an underdog. I was shocked when he won...but it wasn't quite like HHH was overly dominant.

That's not "underdog" booking. It's superman booking, with commentators saying "They've never wrestled-- can he beat him?!"
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Old 08-11-2006, 04:54 PM   #208
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Yeah, I about shit myself when HHH tapped out to him. I thought by that point he'd be champion well into 2009.
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Old 08-11-2006, 04:56 PM   #209
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Oh, and I agree. I'm just saying it gets even worse when you consider he almost never jobs clean.
Ah, yes. I thot you meant the fact that half his wins were from chain-fisted slugs when the ref weren't lookin'. But yo'ure right. I'm even more frazzled now.
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Old 08-11-2006, 10:01 PM   #210
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John Cena sucks because he's the company's biggest babyface, and he receives mixed reactions EVERY TIME HE ENTERS THE ARENA. Every fucking time. It doesn't matter where they are: New York, California, Idaho, Arkansas, Washington, Canada! He gets the same fucking 50/50 reaction every time, and it's always noticeably the female/little kid demo that cheers for him, and everybody else who fucking hates him.

Did that happen to Hulk Hogan? No. Did that happen to Stone Cold? HELL no. The Rock? Absolutely not; some of the biggest pops in wrestling's history. Even The Ultimate fucking Warrior never had crowd reactions this bad.

Over on the WCW side: Sting? Never. Goldberg? No. Luger (during late 90's)? No. Booker T? Maybe lackluster reactions, but never half boos and half cheers.

And don't even give me that shit about him being "controversial" so they boo him. That's nothing more than an excuse. The booing happened long before they started calling him "controversial."

More or less, these are the reasons why I hate John Cena.

And even worse, WWE realizes this, yet they continue to shove his boring shit down our throats.
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Old 08-11-2006, 10:15 PM   #211
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Hogan turned heel because he was booed.
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Old 08-11-2006, 10:27 PM   #212
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In WCW. I was referring to his WWF career. And he had tons of longevity long before anyone started booing Hulk Hogan. John Cena had approximately 2 months.



Really, that only furthers my point. They need to do something different with John Cena's character, like turn him heel.
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Old 08-11-2006, 10:31 PM   #213
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But Hogan was a different time. If he comes around today he is booed out of the buidling.

Can't say I disargee about doing something different with Cena.
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.....Hogan gets booed out of the building?
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I was saying if Hogan debut in today's wrestling world he would get booed out of the building.
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