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Old 02-18-2004, 04:21 PM   #41
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BTW...I'm still VERY apathetic towards the whole "Kingpin is black" thing.

Far as nitpicks go, that was a REALLY tiny one in a movie with plot holes so big you could lose a couple of Blue whales in it...
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Old 02-18-2004, 04:25 PM   #42
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BTW...I'm still VERY apathetic towards the whole "Kingpin is black" thing.

Far as nitpicks go, that was a REALLY tiny one in a movie with plot holes so big you could lose a couple of Blue whales in it...
Lol, I know what you mean. It didn't make me really angry because I like Michael Clark Duncan and he's a good actor.
Kingpin will be back and I wonder Bullseye will be back with his adamantium spine, because they kept him alive too.
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You're assuming they make a sequel to Daredevil. Affleck is very reluctant unless Kevin Smith writes it (well that's what he *says* anyway)
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Lol, I know what you mean. It didn't make me really angry because I like Michael Clark Duncan and he's a good actor.
Kingpin will be back and I wonder Bullseye will be back with his adamantium spine, because they kept him alive too.
I wouldn't mind seeing Bullseye as a recurring villain...The problem with comic-based movie serieseseses is that you don't have the same chance to bring in the character a few hundred times...

Perhaps they've learned from the Batman series.

MCD is an awesome actor, which is one of the main reasons I didn't even blink when they said he was the Kingpin. HE's one scaaaaary motherfucker...
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You're assuming they make a sequel to Daredevil. Affleck is very reluctant unless Kevin Smith writes it (well that's what he *says* anyway)
Oh no. daredevil without Ben Affleck...

That's like...Batman without George Clooney...
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Meh

I am still curious to see the DVD release which is supposed to feature the Director's Cut - meant to be a lot grittier/harsher/whatever

Anyway, back on track

According to Variety, Neeson is confirmed for Ra'as, as well as Morgan Freeman being confirmed for Lucious Fox (dunno where they're going to fit him in, but seeing as the movie is meant to focus a lot more on Bruce Wayne I guess it'll work)
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one thing that has always made me wonder is that in the Batman cartoon...Harvey Dent was black, in the first two movies he was black, but Tommy Lee Jones played him as two face even thought he's white.
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one thing that has always made me wonder is that in the Batman cartoon...Harvey Dent was black, in the first two movies he was black, but Tommy Lee Jones played him as two face even thought he's white.
He was black in the cartoon?
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He was black in the cartoon?
Nope...
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Nope...
Didn't think so. I was pretty damn sure he was white in the cartoon...Just like in the comics...
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OH, actually, thinking about it...hmm. I guess I could understand why someone might think of him as black, he was drawn to almost look half-cast, very odd. But I'm pretty sure he was white.

Hmm..found this



Judging by his hair though I'd say white.
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Neeson is a great choice as Ra's, he'll dominate the screen with his size and seeing as he has had a bitof swordfighting experience it looks good for the movie.

This movie has a bloody great cast, one version of the script had a great review on latinoreview.com, so surely they can't **** it up...can they?
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OH, actually, thinking about it...hmm. I guess I could understand why someone might think of him as black, he was drawn to almost look half-cast, very odd. But I'm pretty sure he was white.

Hmm..found this



Judging by his hair though I'd say white.
He looks kinda mediterranean there...

...Then again, a lot of people look pretty dark in that show...Including some of the blondes...
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Source: Variety

Variety issued a correction today regarding their BATMAN casting article from yesterday. The trade had reported that Liam Neeson would be playing R'as al Ghul, the main villain in the new BATMAN film. However, Neeson isn't playing a bad guy at all; instead, the Irish actor has been cast as businessman Henri Ducard, a friend and mentor to billionaire Bruce Wayne. That leaves the role of Ghul open...but for whom?
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Variety issued a correction today regarding their BATMAN casting article from yesterday. The trade had reported that Liam Neeson would be playing R'as al Ghul, the main villain in the new BATMAN film. However, Neeson isn't playing a bad guy at all; instead, the Irish actor has been cast as businessman Henri Ducard, a friend and mentor to billionaire Bruce Wayne. That leaves the role of Ghul open...but for whom?
Bastards. I wanted an immortal Ballymena man...

Viggo Mortensen would be a great choice as Ra's.
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I always thought Harvey Dent was originally black...
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Harvey Dent was always white.

Bizarrely Burton cast a black actor for his first Batman movie…this was conveniently forgotten as has already been pointed out for the third movie, Batman Forever.

Hopefully Nolan’s Batman will kick three shades of shite out of Burton’s movie…the only thing worth keeping from those movies is the main theme song.
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Harvey Dent was always white.

Bizarrely Burton cast a black actor for his first Batman movie…this was conveniently forgotten as has already been pointed out for the third movie, Batman Forever.
Dent was pretty inconsequential in the first Batman movie. I don't think anyone thought much of it, except a few comic book geeks (And even then, I noticed, but was motsly amused by it).

The first movie attempted to be more pulp than superhero (Which is part of its charm to many), which caused a lot of distancing from the comics. Whether this was an intentional aspect of that or unintentional coincidence, I dunno, but it's there.

Batman Forever was much more comic-book, over the top, and actually bore very little resemblence to the first movie in the series (Though it was, in fact a sequel). a combination of scope, style, and scenery just made it a different kind of movie.

And yes, Two Face/Harvey Dent was always white in the comics, and the cartoon.
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Ken Watanabe is Ra's Al Ghul in Batman
Source: Warner Bros. Pictures Tuesday, February 24, 2004

Oscar-nominated actor Ken Watanabe has joined the cast of director Christopher Nolan's highly anticipated film about the origins of the Batman legend. The announcement was made today by Jeff Robinov, President of Production, Warner Bros. Pictures.

Watanabe, who is nominated for Best Actor in a Supporting Role for his performance in The Last Samurai, will play the villainous Ra's Al Ghul, alongside stars Christian Bale as Bruce Wayne/Batman; Michael Caine as his trusted butler Alfred; Katie Holmes as a childhood friend of Wayne's; Liam Neeson as Wayne's mentor, Henri Ducard; and Morgan Freeman as Lucius Fox, a former board member and sidelined employee of Wayne Enterprises.

Directed by Christopher Nolan from a screenplay by David Goyer, the film is produced by Emma Thomas, Charles Roven and Larry Franco. The executive producers are Ben Melniker and Michael Uslan.

The project is scheduled to start production in London in March.
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Yup.

Nolan is supposed to be on Sky active entertainment at some point this weekend talking about the movie shooting in London. Apparently they begin filming on March 15th.

The film title has also been changed according to superherohype.com to Batman Begins.
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Batman begins?

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Dennis Quaid is reportedly 'close' to being signed as Jim Gordon.

I'm seriously staggered by the quality of this cast.
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Dennis Quaid is reportedly 'close' to being signed as Jim Gordon.

I'm seriously staggered by the quality of this cast.
Quaid would be excellent. Great cast, potentially great director with great ideas and a scriptwriter with a good track record.

That new title is ****ing atrocious though. Why not just steal Batman year one

I suppose they have a year or so to reconsider though.
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Also very weird considering that WB were reported to have purchased Intimidation Game-sounding domain names
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Oh yeah I forgot, the official title is now "Batman Begins"
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X-men is different because there is more than one battle going on. The movies aren't just about the Magneto and his team vs the Xmen, they are also about the fight that the mutants go through to be accepted in society.
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Old 03-02-2004, 07:59 PM   #73
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http://superherohype.com/batman/index.php?id=942

Wow, where to start?! Warner Bros. has quietly started location shooting for Batman Begins and already a ton of information is hitting our desks and the Web. We'll start with scooper 'Joe Chill' who says the following is the official synopsis of the film from the WB's Intranet (includes possible spoilers)...

Director Christopher Nolan (Memento, Insomnia) and screenwriter David S. Goyer (the Blade trilogy) join forces for another action-packed chapter of the Batman saga!

As a young boy, Bruce Wayne watched in horror as his millionaire parents were slain in front of him--a trauma that leads him to become obsessed with revenge. But the opportunity to avenge his parent's deaths is cruelly taken away from him by fate.

Fleeing to the East, where he seeks counsel with the dangerous but honorable ninja cult leader known as Ra's Al-Ghul, Bruce returns to his now decaying Gotham City, which is overrun by organized crime and other dangerous individuals manipulating the system. Meanwhile, Bruce is slowly being swindled out of Wayne Industries, the company he inherited.

The discovery of a cave under his mansion, along with a prototype armored suit, leads him to assume a new persona, one which will strike fear into the hearts of men who do wrong; he becomes Batman!!!

In the new guise, and with the help of rising cop Jim Gordon, Batman sets out to take down the various nefarious schemes in motion by individuals such as mafia don Falcone, the twisted doctor/drug dealer Jonathan 'The Scarecrow' Crane, and a mysterious third party that is quite familiar with Wayne and waiting to strike when the time is right.

Meanwhile, many of you have written in to tell us that the Mentmore Towers in Buckinghamshire, UK will serve as the Wayne Manor in the film. You can check out a picture of the house here.

'Robert' has also done some more investigative work about the production and sent this bit...

It looks like production has already begun for Batman Begins. An article in the Icelandic newspaper suggests this. The crew have already become familar with the surroundings, proven by these exclusive shots (February 8 and 27), posted on the official site of the mountain guides (Isalp) in that area.

The shots are of Susan Whitaker (Assistant Art Director) and Quentin Davies (Propsman). By the looks of this report, it's not easy to reach. (Artic advisor) Nick Lewis, Krister Johnson (Transport captain) are there together with the safety team of Nick Lewis, Simon Abrahams and Paul Ramsd
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Old 03-02-2004, 08:08 PM   #74
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They're putting Falcone in? Nice touch, although I doubt it'll be much more than a smallish cameo role
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Old 03-02-2004, 08:19 PM   #75
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Wow. Can't believe I'm actually looking forward to another Batman movie.

BTW, Ken Watanabe as Ra's? Niiiiiiiiiice...
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Old 03-02-2004, 08:43 PM   #76
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Wow. Can't believe I'm actually looking forward to another Batman movie.

BTW, Ken Watanabe as Ra's? Niiiiiiiiiice...
Maybe I’m going a bit soft in the head but wasn’t Ra’s of Middle Eastern descent? Can’t remember their ever being a specific origin for him but I always thought this.

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Old 03-04-2004, 05:45 PM   #77
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I believe Ra'as is generally portrayed as being of Arabic descent, yes.

Anyway, news from Ain't It Cool (not always the most reliable source but I'll take this)-reportedly Jim Gordon will *not* be played by Dennis Quaid. Instead he'll be played by...








ready?





Gary Fucking Oldman

Shit yeah. I marked out when I read that. Apparently Larry Holden has been cast as District Attorney Fisk as well, so presumably at some point in this film there might be a Harvey Dent cameo.

So, this makes the cast as we stand right now:

Christian Bale - Batman
Michael Caine - Alfred
Katie Holmes - Rachel Dodson (Bruce Wayne love interest)
Liam Neeson - Ducard (friend of Bruce Wayne's father, teacher figure to Bruce)
Morgan Freeman- Lucious Fox (Head of Wayne Enterprises, close friend of Bruce)
Ken Watanabe - Ra'as Al Ghul
Cilian Murphy - Scarecrow
Gary Oldman - Lt. Jim Gordon
Larry Holden - D.A. Fisk

It sounds strange saying it, but that is the sort of cast a Batman movie *should* have, and *deserves* to have, and Nolan is the sort of director it *needs* to have, especially when working from Goyer's script, as Goyer knows his shit when it comes to comics.

Damn, just....damn. I seriously cannot wait for this.
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Old 03-06-2004, 06:09 PM   #78
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I'm thankful for this. Tim Burton is a god damn genious and the first 2 Batman movies were gold. Well besides the fact they killed of the joker. I can deal with Penguin being gone but not the Joker. Although I will say I thought Danny DeVito did an excellent job in that movie, considering the type of parts he usually plays. And I don't even have to explain about Jack Nicholson. And Michael Keaton owns all as Batman. He had the role down like nobody's business. The funny flirty guy as Bruce Wayne and then the silent assassin with no emotion as Batman. Val Kilmer sucked, he was always serious even as Bruce Wayne. And George Clooney was always joking around as Batman. The first 2 movies were just so dark and morbid, which is how Batman should be.

My advice, keep Joel Schumacher far far away from the series. And whoever wrote the screen plays for the 3rd and 4th movies, have them shot please.
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There is a script review somewhere on www.joblo.com

Too lazy to look it up.

Find it yourselves.
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Old 03-10-2004, 07:20 PM   #80
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Batman Begins star Christian Bale was left red-faced on the upcoming superhero movie's set last week - when he couldn't fit into his costume. The Captain Corelli's Mandolin hunk is currently in Iceland filming the fifth installment of the comic book franchise under the guidance of Memento director Christopher Nolan. But poor Christian had to suffer the indignity of the costume problems on his first day as Gotham City's crime fighting bat. A set insider explains, "The trouble is the suit is so tight, it takes three people to squeeze Christian into it. He ripped one suit then finally managed to get into another with the help of more than a few squirts of talcum powder."

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