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Old 01-04-2007, 05:13 PM   #841
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I think Pineiro has a real good shot at becoming the Red Sox closer, I had a feeling the Red Sox might do this - try to get somebody people really don't expect, without dropping a ton of cash for him, to see if he could fill the role. Well I was thinking they might do this after not signing Gagne anyway, really thought they were going to make a move at Gagne at the start of the offseason.
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Old 01-04-2007, 08:53 PM   #842
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What do you think of this idea for the Yankees at first base?

Bernie Williams.

He wants to play another season or two, but there's no spot for him in the outfield or as a DH. He's a switch hitter (better from the right), which is what the Yankees want, because they're lefty-heavy. He'd be a better hitter than Mientikiewicz, Phillips, Phelps or Lee.

The question of course, is defense. Bernie still has a good glove and is fairly athletic (former CF), the problem is he is slow and has no arm, but he wouldn't need speed or a great arm as a first baseman. I think if he was approached about this, he'd do it. He wants to play badly, and only for the Yankees. He has said in the past he'd take "whatever role they have for me." The Sheffield experiment was a failure, but he didn't have much time to learn (whereas Bernie would have the offseason and spring training), nor was Sheffield ever the defender that Bernie Williams was. I think he'd be better than Giambi.

I haven't seen this reported anywhere, just a crazy idea I had.
This could work. However there are somethings that you pointed out, that may or may not cause trouble. If he were to go for it, he would have to be groomed for the job really soon.

But we do have Giambi and Phillips. I wouldn't mind if we got one more person incase something bad happens to either one of them.
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Old 01-04-2007, 09:18 PM   #843
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Why not just keep Giambi at 1st? Or platoon them between DH and 1B
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Old 01-04-2007, 11:02 PM   #846
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Anyway, all the Yankees are getting for Johnson is 2 minor leaguers. Nothing else.
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what? ESPN says 4 players. Vizcaino, Ohlendorf, Steven Jackson, and Alberto Gonzalez
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The New York Yankees and Arizona Diamondbacks on Thursday afternoon agreed in principle to a trade that would send five-time Cy Young Award winner Randy Johnson back to Arizona, according to a source with knowledge of the talks.

The Yankees will receive right-handed reliever Luis Vizcaino, according to a Diamondbacks source, in a broader package with two minor leaguers.
Major League Baseball granted the Diamondbacks a 72-hour window to negotiate terms of an extension for Johnson, whose contract contains a full no-trade clause. That window expires Sunday at 5 p.m. Eastern.

The Yankees will pay $2 million of Johnson's $16 million salary in 2007, according to a source who had seen the particulars of the deal. Citing two sources, Newsday reported Johnson and the Diamondbacks had agreed "through back-channel discussions" on a $10 million contract for 2008.

Johnson, 43, first must pass a physical. The 6-foot-10 left-hander had surgery to repair a herniated disk in November.

Johnson is 31st all-time with 280 career wins. Should he recover and remain healthy for two seasons, Johnson likely would win his 300th game with the Diamondbacks, for whom he won 103 games – and four of his Cy Young awards – from 1999-2004.

The Yankees are expected to receive two minor leaguers – 6-foot-4 right-hander Ross Ohlendorf and shortstop Alberto Gonzalez – who spent most of last season in double-A, in addition to Vizcaino. Vizcaino had a 3.58 ERA in 70 appearances for the Diamondbacks last season.

Yankees general manager Brian Cashman had serious talks with the San Diego Padres as well.

The trade of Johnson continues the recent trend by Cashman to reduce the Yankees' payroll while stocking the top end of the farm system.

In early November, he traded slugger Gary Sheffield to the Detroit Tigers for three minor-league pitchers. Less than a week later, the Yankees were outbid by the Boston Red Sox for the rights to negotiate with Japanese pitcher Daisuke Matsuzaka.

That said, the Yankees are believed to be interested in signing Roger Clemens, should the 348-game winner resume his career at 44.
Johnson would join Brandon Webb, the reigning National League Cy Young winner, Livan Hernandez, Doug Davis and Juan Cruz in the Diamondbacks' rotation.

Though he won 17 games for the Yankees in 2006, Johnson appeared to show the wear of age and his ailing back. His ERA was 5.00, the highest of his career, and he allowed 28 home runs, near his career high. He was worse in the postseason, allowing five runs in 5 2/3 innings in a division series start against the Detroit Tigers, who eliminated the Yankees in four games.
OK, 3 players, missed the Vizcaino part 1st time I read it.
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This whole Mark McGuire HoF thing is stupid. Ty Cobb anyone?
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Yeah, give it up about Mark McGuire. It's so irrelivant to baseball right now, and I think it is safe to say that Mark McGuire still would have been regarded as a great hitter without the record breaking season.
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Looks like we signed Mientikiewicz anyway.
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Apparantly the Yankees are trying to load up on prospects for their run at Johan Santana
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Old 01-05-2007, 07:45 PM   #856
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Santana? Why the hell am I still hearing The Rocket still being bounced around?
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Obviously they wouldn't be getting Santana this year. He still has like three years left on a modest contract in Minnesota, and with the reigning MVP and batting champ they aren't in a hurry to begin rebuilding.
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yeah that's a bit of a stretch I would say, Yankees trying to go after Santana.
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Johan's under contract until the end of 2008...so don't look for him to be moved until mid 2008 at the earliest
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When you look at what the Diamond Backs have been doing over the last 2-3 years, they sure have been wise. What they got for the Big Unit, what they gave up for the Big Unit and everything sandwiched in between, they are poised to make a sustained run at things in their division.
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It is concievable that the Yankees would be doing this, but again, Santana is a huge bargain right now. I assume they try to get him to sign a modest extension, somewhere in the market of like five years close to 15 mil per year, and if he doesn't bite they will have to trade him.
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We are not going to win shit with Eric Byrnes hitting clean up.
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Dodgers are taking the NL West.
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Well. Randy Johnson signs a 2-year deal worth $26 mil. with the D-Backs (physical pending). That pretty much locks up the trade.
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Old 01-08-2007, 02:19 AM   #870
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How in the hell did Randy Johnson get a 2 year 26 million extension? Do these GM's watch these players play at all??? Thats rediculous. I cant wait for the next baseball strike. Its coming.
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Old 01-08-2007, 02:25 AM   #872
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I was just going to point out that it seemed a pretty excessive amount of money for him.
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Well, he was getting 16 next year no matter what.

10 million isn't a lot considering the market this year. Gil Meche got 11. Johnson is old and pretty much garbage, but he is immensly popular in Arizona and has a decent chance at being good again. I wouldn't give him 10 million but I can see why.
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Gil Meche #55 | Starting Pitcher | Kansas City Royals

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Gil's has(d) tons of potential, as a rather big Mariner fan, I've seen alot of him over the years. Some nights he's been lights out. Other nights utterly painful to watch. Maybe this move is what he needs to get everything to work.
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Meche was solid the first half of the season, but kinda fell off the map in the 2nd half. Hopefully he's worth the money with Kansas City.
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He's going to suck pitching in the AL Central. He'll get no run support in Kansas City either.

8-14, 125K, 5.00/1.45 sounds about right.
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Some more updates:

Astros agreed to terms with RHP Dan Wheeler on a one-year, $2.1 million contract.

Wheeler, the top alternative for saves in the Houston pen should Brad Lidge falter again, made $930,000 last year in his first year of arbitration. He'll be eligible for free agency after 2008.

Ken Griffey Jr.'s broken left hand was X-rays over the weekend and found to be healing as expected.

Griffey broke the hand Dec. 21 in an accident at home. He'll have additional X-rays in about 10 days. If he continues to make steady progress, he should be ready to go once the spring training schedule starts.

Mets agreed to terms with RHP Duaner Sanchez on a one-year, $850,000 contract.

He can earn $100,000 in performance bonuses: $25,000 each for 50, 55, 60 and 65 games. Sanchez, who missed the final two months of last season with a separated right shoulder sustained in a car accident, was eligible for arbitration for the first time. He's expected to be healthy to resume his setup role on Opening Day.

Even though they're dangling Alex Rios, the Blue Jays have been unable to trade for a quality starter.

"To trade just for the sake of making a trade doesn't make any sense," GM J.P. Ricciardi said of his attempts to upgrade the pitching. "If you're not getting something back of substance then what's the point?" The Jays might end up signing someone like Tomo Ohka or Tony Armas Jr. and then head to camp with a competition for the fifth spot in the rotation.
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