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Old 01-30-2007, 11:32 PM   #121
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Spoiler Alert:


(1) CM Punk vs. Matt Striker. Joey Styles notes that Punk lasted 28 minutes in the Royal Rumble. Striker wins a short match by holding the ropes. I guess Punk remains in the dog house.

Okay, babies, you now actually have some sort of trend to piss and moan about. Your crying is now somewhat justified.

...As is the urine in your training pants.
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Old 01-30-2007, 11:44 PM   #122
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- CM Punk's push is now completely dead. Almost nobody backstage likes him, as they feel he's got an attitude that only the top guys should have. He won't be cut however, as there is concern that he could become a star in TNA
Someone may want to confirm this though as I didn't get this from the Observer myself.
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Old 01-30-2007, 11:47 PM   #123
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Has the thought even crossed Vince's mind, that maybe he should have that type of attitude cause he's better then almost all the WWE's top guys ?

Wait. Am i kidding myself or what? Vince lost his mind years ago.
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Old 01-30-2007, 11:58 PM   #124
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Someone may want to confirm this though as I didn't get this from the Observer myself.
Read that too. It was on Observer.
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Old 01-31-2007, 12:18 AM   #125
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If anyone else had the attitude CM Punk has right now, they'd be all over him on this board.

I like CM Punk, but he's doing some damn stupid shit.
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Old 01-31-2007, 12:20 AM   #126
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Looks like my spoof wasn't too far off the mark.
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Old 01-31-2007, 12:59 AM   #127
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If anyone else had the attitude CM Punk has right now, they'd be all over him on this board.

I like CM Punk, but he's doing some damn stupid shit.
What exactly has he done? I've heard all this shit about how he's got an attitude, but I've never heard exactly what he's done to earn that rep.
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Old 01-31-2007, 01:08 AM   #128
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Kissed his girlfriend

the bastard
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Old 01-31-2007, 01:13 AM   #129
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Made Maria not want to give Vince handjobs.
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Old 01-31-2007, 01:35 AM   #130
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Seriously, if kissing his girlfriend is the only thing he did then that is just fucking sad.
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Old 01-31-2007, 01:41 AM   #131
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He's a jobber.
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Old 01-31-2007, 07:01 AM   #132
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If Punk does have an attitude, maybe it's because he out-popped the biggest face act the WWE had (despite being on the C-brand)? I'm sure having Maria ride you doesn't help.

Randy Orton has an attitude, what happens to him? Push, push, push.

Even if CM Punk has an attitude problem, and that's a big if...why the fuck should that interfere with him getting a push? Money is money right? Punk is one of the few guys in the WWE that could be HUGE. The WWE is missing a huge opportunity.
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Old 01-31-2007, 08:01 AM   #133
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Let me get this straight.

They are de pushing Punk, cos he has an attitude problem and they don't think he's money.

But they are worried about him going to TNA and becoming a star?

Hypocracy alert!
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Old 01-31-2007, 10:00 AM   #134
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If anyone else had the attitude CM Punk has right now, they'd be all over him on this board.

I like CM Punk, but he's doing some damn stupid shit.
Gee, selective enforcement from the wrestling community?

Psh. You're full of shit.
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Old 01-31-2007, 10:13 AM   #135
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Seriously, if kissing his girlfriend is the only thing he did then that is just fucking sad.
It's apparently not, as lame as I think it is that they're reacting with "heat" for this. Reminds me of that Simpsons episode. "You're kissing a girl? That is so gay."

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If Punk does have an attitude, maybe it's because he out-popped the biggest face act the WWE had (despite being on the C-brand)? I'm sure having Maria ride you doesn't help.

Randy Orton has an attitude, what happens to him? Push, push, push.

Even if CM Punk has an attitude problem, and that's a big if...why the fuck should that interfere with him getting a push? Money is money right? Punk is one of the few guys in the WWE that could be HUGE. The WWE is missing a huge opportunity.
I especially liked that Push where Orton jobbed out to the Undertaker for like a year straight.

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Let me get this straight.

They are de pushing Punk, cos he has an attitude problem and they don't think he's money.

But they are worried about him going to TNA and becoming a star?

Hypocracy alert!
A "star" in TNA is about a "Velocity" level wrestler.

However, the major point is that they don't want him to get big. Though I think it's hypocritical (Hey, you didn't seem so worried about attitude with Brock), it's a pretty common thing. If Punk had half a brain, he'd be wary of being cocky without important friends or the support of Vince. Still, it comes back to They don't want him to succeed/they want to punish him. That's the bullet point.

Now, if you don't want someone to succeed, why send them off to someone else?
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Old 01-31-2007, 12:24 PM   #136
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Well, there's still the notion that they think he COULD be successful that strikes me as kind of odd. People in wrestling seem to take things WAY too personally.
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Old 01-31-2007, 12:25 PM   #137
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Also, I think a lot more people should lose to Matt Striker, seeing as to how he is the man. Moreso than CM Punk, for sure.
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Old 01-31-2007, 12:26 PM   #138
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Yea CM Punk is dead as a doornail, just like Paul Levesque was in 1996 after getting in the doghouse. He never came back from that....
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Old 01-31-2007, 12:43 PM   #139
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Henry Godwinn went on to huge stardom, though.
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I especially liked that Push where Orton jobbed out to the Undertaker for like a year straight.
What about main eventing WrestleMania when he can't even work on the fly?
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Yea CM Punk is dead as a doornail, just like Paul Levesque was in 1996 after getting in the doghouse. He never came back from that....
The only Mchman(gods I suck at spelling) availible for him to wed to get out of the dog house isn't a year old.
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Old 01-31-2007, 04:07 PM   #142
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Triple H was out of the doghouse and headlining PPVs as champion long before he was involved with Stephanie off-screen.
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Jerictron's right. Shadow's being a 'tard again.
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I'd like to reiterate that I called this first.

Anyways, where was his 'pop' at the Rumble? Matt Hardy got more of a reception than him.

Most people keep saying that he 'got pops bigger than the stars' and all that, I'm still to hear them. Survivor Series aside, I'm not sure he was ever that over. Then again, Punk himself obviously thought he was. Arrogant prick.
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His Survivor Series pop is extremely exaggerated on these boards.
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Not that much of a disappointment if he is getting "depushed." I didn't expect him to be used properly from the outset, regardless of his backstage attitude.
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Old 01-31-2007, 05:21 PM   #148
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And this is assuming that he is being depushed, which is assuming that he even had that much of a push to begin with. I love Punk, but he hasn't exactly been setting the world on fire in ECW.
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Old 01-31-2007, 05:24 PM   #149
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In fact, thinking about it, there isn't much lower than losing to Matt Striker on ECW is there? I mean, who is lower than Striker? Miz? I can't think of many more.

Punk REALLY must have fucked people off. Orton did the same, but the difference was that he had his daddy and an established name behind him. Punk waltzes in to the WWE's Z-show, starts dating a Diva and becomes one himself. I look forward to Mr Straight Edge in a Extreme Chocolate Sauce Bowl Evening Gown match with Pat Patterson any day soon.
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In fact, thinking about it, there isn't much lower than losing to Matt Striker on ECW is there? I mean, who is lower than Striker? Miz? I can't think of many more.

Punk REALLY must have fucked people off. Orton did the same, but the difference was that he had his daddy and an established name behind him. Punk waltzes in to the WWE's Z-show, starts dating a Diva and becomes one himself. I look forward to Mr Straight Edge in a Extreme Chocolate Sauce Bowl Evening Gown match with Pat Patterson any day soon.
I think WX was going more for the "assuming he had a push in the first place" bent.

I mean, I suppose you can call beating up jobbers a push, but...
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I bet you someone's described it as bigger than Rock or Austin's pops.
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I think you all finally have an argument. While I personally think this is the begginings of a loosing streak angle, you'll get no argument from me. At least now you have some sort of foundation to your claims.
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I remember seeing someone mention in the Survior Series thread (I think) that Punk would probably get buried after out popping DX.

I doubted that, but then as time went on things started pileing up. I made this thread because it started to look like that's what they were doing. And then shortly after you keep hearing stuff about Punk having heat on him for various reasons.

Now I don't know how much of a cocky attitude Punk has, I mean afterall you can have confidence and someone can see it as them being cocky. And in all honesty I could see someone within WWE see Punk as being some cocky prick in all reality he is just confident in his abilities. But since we have no solid proof of him being or not being a cocky asshole backstage, we can't say for sure.

Although I do love that they won't release him because they fear he'll become a huge star in TNA. I mean if he'd become a star there then don't you think he could be a star in WWE and that they'd want to market him as such?

But that would be too logical for WWE's brain(less)trust.
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Although I do love that they won't release him because they fear he'll become a huge star in TNA. I mean if he'd become a star there then don't you think he could be a star in WWE and that they'd want to market him as such?
Well it's much easier to a star in TNA than it is in the WWE...just sayin'.
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Well it's much easier to a star in TNA than it is in the WWE...just sayin'.
But since TNA isn't near WWE's level, why should E care if Punk becomes a star in a smaller promotion??

This isn't 1997 and TNA isn't WCW.
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Until I see him falling in love with a mop or tag teaming with Snitsky I'm going to assume he isn't getting buried. I think the fact is most people are pretty worried about WWE yet again failing to capitalize on an obviously talented wrestler like CM Punk - especially when they are in such dire straights like now.

So any bit of evidence that could support this concern is seen as certain fact - including everything which is in the dirt sheets. I just think people are maybe jumping to conclusions.
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Well you DO realize that you can be buried without having to be saddled with a stupid gimmick, right?
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But since TNA isn't near WWE's level, why should E care if Punk becomes a star in a smaller promotion??

This isn't 1997 and TNA isn't WCW.
Yeah, but it doesn't take much to turn a minor deal into something interesting.

Anyway, in terms of"saw it coming," Like I've said before. Did anyone REALLY think Punk was going to go somewhere in WWE? He's not homegrown, he's not a hoss, he's not a brawler. Come on, we were calling this before he ever debuted. We were calling this before the deaf dumb and blind gimmick, and we were calling this about 3 seconds after the ink was wet.

So yeah. A lot of people saw this coming. Basically, anyone with a brain.

Just saying. If WWE booked based on pops or fan reaction, it'd all be about Van Dam or someone instead of Cena.
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