Best Ever

[BigDaddyCool]

Also, I'm a little disappointed Boogen isn't on here.

[Maluco]

He hurt his legacy being a dick for all those years, but Shawn Micheals was such a great athlete, constantly pulled out 4-5 star matches, even after years out of the ring.

Flair is a runner up for me, with the reason being I felt the Rockers were the best team of all time...giving Micheals a few more points.

[Jura]

A lot of people keep spelling it Micheals. It's starting to get on me nerves. Argghh.

[Maluco]

I have spoken very little English for the last 4 months...surely you can let it slide, eh?

[Jura]

Yes, I forgive you. Where are you from?

[FBI mark]

I voted for Bret Hart although there are so many on this list that I want to acknowledge as close if not closer to that title.The real reason I voted for Bret is because i'm a huge hitman mark.However,Brets accomplishments were great and he was one of the all time best workers in the ring.Bret Hart had great in ring pschology and he was a great seller.Bret lacked crowd pschology and his look and mic skills were good but not great.I feel that Bret Harts real legacy(and the reason I voted for him)was his workrate and his opening the door for smaller non roided up wrestlers,he also helped usher in the attitude era,and lastly his technical ability set a real standard in wrestling.

All that being said I believe if a saw alot of the other wrestlers on the list when I was younger guys like Harley Race,Bob Orton jr.,and the Iron Shiek would be bigger contenders for my pick as the best ever.

[Maluco]

Originally Posted by jura Yes, I forgive you. Where are you from?

lol, good job. I am from the UK and speak English, but have been in Brazil since August/September of last year...will miss Mania, but get home for a month to see No Way Out

[Maluco]

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[Jura]

Originally Posted by FBI mark I voted for Bret Hart although there are so many on this list that I want to acknowledge as close if not closer to that title.The real reason I voted for Bret is because i'm a huge hitman mark.However,Brets accomplishments were great and he was one of the all time best workers in the ring.Bret Hart had great in ring pschology and he was a great seller.Bret lacked crowd pschology and his look and mic skills were good but not great.I feel that Bret Harts real legacy(and the reason I voted for him)was his workrate and his opening the door for smaller non roided up wrestlers,he also helped usher in the attitude era,and lastly his technical ability set a real standard in wrestling. All that being said I believe if a saw alot of the other wrestlers on the list when I was younger guys like Harley Race,Bob Orton jr.,and the Iron Shiek would be bigger contenders for my pick as the best ever.

[The One]

Loose Cannon, will39...consider yourself on notice!

[Nervous Ferret]

Nigel

[Indifferent Clox]

shut the hell up crippla.

[Zen v.W.o.]

Originally Posted by jeritron5000 When did Shawn Michaels suck?

The past year. Chop, chop, chop, chop..laziness....bad DX jokes, simply because he cant act that way any longer..wrestling guys much bigger than he is in the exact same way he'd wrestle someone way closer to his size.
If you're gonna use shitty chops so much at least make them look HARD. Sorta like Benoit does.

[Jeritron]

dude, Shawn Michaels is still one of the top workers in the inustry today. All DX things aside, he still gets it done in the ring and then some. He also isn't holding down the world. He's far from sucking.

Also, regardless of how he is now or the past year or 3 years for that matter. He's still the best ever. Which is whats being asked.

[Zen v.W.o.]

Originally Posted by jeritron5000 dude, Shawn Michaels is still one of the top workers in the inustry today. All DX things aside, he still gets it done in the ring and then some. He also isn't holding down the world. He's far from sucking. Also, regardless of how he is now or the past year or 3 years for that matter. He's still the best ever. Which is whats being asked.

Nah, if you're objective he phones in most of his matches. He can still put on a good match when he wants to, but that isnt good enough.

As for best ever, he's not as good as Bret so you'd be wrong.

[Jeritron]

Well, I'm going to say Bret isn't as good as Shawn. Again, its a debate that I don't feel should take anything away from the other in terms of their ability and career. If I had to name the top wrestlers of all time, they'd both be right there at the top.
But as far as their in ring work, their ability to perform, and the caliber of their matches, I'd give Shawn the slight edge over Bret.
I suppose its all a matter of opinion once it comes down to the title of best ever.
The only thing thats not really debateable when it comes to things like this are the tiers wrestlers are on, and Bret and Shawn are certainly both on the top tier.

[Fox]

Angle. I haven't enjoyed anyone in wrestling as a whole more than Kurt Angle.

[Bad Company]

Hogan, no contest.

[The One]

Originally Posted by Zen v.W.o. Nah, if you're objective he phones in most of his matches. He can still put on a good match when he wants to, but that isnt good enough. As for best ever, he's not as good as Bret so you'd be wrong.

Nobody puts everything they have into every single match. Good god, Hart was good and all, but fucking christ, you want to talk about phoning in, Bret has a few MotY, but for the most part his matches were bland, boring, and repeats of the week before. Michaels doesn't put 100% in a RAW match, nor does anyone expect him to. Nor should he. If HBK went all out for every one of his matches, the poor man would have burned out and killed himself long ago. But what does it tell you that on any given week, HBK's phoned in match is still probably the best match of that week?