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Old 05-15-2007, 04:06 PM   #1
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Somebody needs to ban this motherfucker. He's just being a fucking troll.
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Old 05-15-2007, 04:07 PM   #2
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Somebody needs to ban this motherfucker. He's just being a fucking troll.
Uh, gee, YA THINK MAYBE?!
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Old 05-15-2007, 04:15 PM   #3
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THEN WHYYYYY IS HE STIIIIIILL MOTHERFUCKIN' HEEEERE
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Old 05-15-2007, 04:19 PM   #4
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THEN WHYYYYY IS HE STIIIIIILL MOTHERFUCKIN' HEEEERE
Cuz I’m not a mod and therefore I can’t hand out bans... Sorry, dude. Would if I could.
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Old 05-15-2007, 04:21 PM   #5
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Michaels turned heel pretty much for that one match. After that he was face 30 seconds later.

Hogan winning did nothing for wrestling. Michaels winning would have, though not as much as if he wasn't a legend already.

I'll go so far as to say this angle probably hurt more than it helped. Michaels had to turn heel, ha dto lose some momentum, just to play to the ego of a guy who didn't stick around. Did it devastate the wrestling world? No. Just saying it probably did more harm than good.

Part timers winning does little to nothing for the company in general. Foley, at least, tends to make his opponents look good. And even Flair and Taker, who I'm not fond of winning, are doing more as regular workers (Even if Taker's is less frequent than Flair's). Even then, they often kill heat.

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Old 05-15-2007, 07:09 PM   #6
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Oh, right. I forgot that heels are always supposed to lose no matter what. They should never win because it might help get them over as an even more important heel character, which no good heel character EVER wants . Excuse me for actually having brains, unlike yourself.
Yes, heels do win big matches but the babyface or another babyface who was friends with the other babyface always gets payback at the end.

And since Hogan was not going to work a long feud with HBK or Orton, it made sense for Hogan to win since they were only wrestling one time.

Maybe if you guys would actually read what I type you'd get it.
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Old 05-15-2007, 08:24 PM   #7
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Actually, the Hell getting his commupance wouldn't have to come from Hogan, and the heel rub from beating Hogan would make the eventual downfall all the sweeter, thus making it better all around.

If you typed things that didn't come off like an obssessed girl who just hit puberty, you might be able to pull the "if you read what I type..." As it is, we read it. We got it. It was stupid. We disregarded it.
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Old 05-15-2007, 08:32 PM   #8
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Old 05-15-2007, 08:33 PM   #9
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Old 05-15-2007, 09:38 PM   #10
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The Death of WCW is on the list of books I plan to read. Will probably read it after I read Bischoff's book.

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Old 05-15-2007, 10:25 PM   #11
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That would be so surprising.

Well, except no-one cares. There's only two kinds of retards on TPWW these days. Your kind, generic retarded n00b, and the creepy stalker CC type.
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Yeah, and I don't care what you have to say either Kane Knight.

Anyway, as much as I am looking forward to reading RD's book, he was not around in WCW at the time so everything he says is still an opinion.
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Old 05-16-2007, 05:31 AM   #13
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Yeah, and I don't care what you have to say either Kane Knight.

Anyway, as much as I am looking forward to reading RD's book, he was not around in WCW at the time so everything he says is still an opinion.
Odd considering there are no opinions in that book.
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Old 05-15-2007, 11:12 PM   #14
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I'm glad you don't care. You can return to your magical land of Oz where Hogan has never contradicted himself, and everything out of a wrestler's mouth is true.
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Old 05-16-2007, 05:32 AM   #15
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And extremely helpful references and sources are there as well. You know, since you want those so badly.
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Old 05-16-2007, 08:59 AM   #16
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But are those references and sources HOGAN? If it's not HOGAN, it's nothing, broither! HOGAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!
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Odd considering there are no opinions in that book.
Well, I've never read it so as of right now, I'm gonna have to take your word for it. I just know RD is not a Hogan fan...infact, I don't think he ever was a WCW fan...now I am NOT stating that as a fact or an opinion...it's been years since I've been to Wrestlecrap.com. I'm more of a fan of the old-school Wrestlecrap.com....anyway, it's been a long time and I THINK I recall reading that RD never liked WCW...I know he was never a Hogan fan....but anyway, that book will be read by me after Easy E's book.

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And extremely helpful references and sources are there as well. You know, since you want those so badly.
I do. Thank you. I look forward to reading it.

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But are those references and sources HOGAN? If it's not HOGAN, it's nothing, broither! HOGAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!
Where did I ever say that I only believe Hogan? All I said was give me sources that say otherwise about Hulk Hogan's idea to turn heel.

I think the reason why you all seem to think I am a blind Hogan mark is because all of you act the same way about wrestlers you are entertained by so you naturally assume everyone is like that when it comes to their favorite wrestler but that is not the case with me. Like I said, no human is perfect.

There's plenty of things Hogan did in his career that I thought were very egoistical and thought he should have done otherwise.

Examples:

1. Wrestlemania IV - Instead of having some tournament, Hogan should have just dropped the belt to Savage in the main event. And then Savage could return the favor to Hulk at Wrestlemania V.

2. Wrestlemania VII - The final match should have been between Savage and Flair and it should have ended with Savage with the title.

(....LOL...I bet all of you are gonna think I'm a Savage mark now huh? Trust me, I'm not.)

3. WrestleMania IX - Yes, I agree with the smarks on this one. Hulk Hogan was very selfish that day and took the spotlight away from Bret Hart and Yokozuna. He was wrong and should not have done that. In my opinion, Bret Hart should have won the match and then taken Hogan on at the King of the Ring and Hogan should have lost to Bret in a clean win. (Since Bret Hart did carry the torch after Hulk left and became a huge star in the WWF, Hulk should have passed the torch to him and it's a shame that match never happened. Even at age 10, I wanted to see those two wrestle and was disappointed when it did not happen.) Then Yokozuna should have won the King of the Ring and beat Bret at Summerslam and then Bret would get the belt back at Wrestlemania X.

4. Summerslam 2006 - I honestly thought Hulk would have done the job for Orton since Orton was the legend killer and it would make sense that Orton get the win. And I was surprised and even a little disappointed in Hulk for not jobbing.

5. Hulk Hogan's book - I read his book, then I read Stone Cold's book. All in a matter of a few weeks recently and I must say, Hulk's book is more entertaining and fun to read....but Steve Austin's book is more real in my opinion. It's kind of like the movies. You can either watch a movie that has some realism to it but is still very whacky and out of this world or a straight up realistic, "it could happen and has happened in this world" movie.

He also seemed like the only thing he was interested in was making money and it was all about money with him whereas Austin seemed to have a true passion for the business. I have no doubt Hogan does too but it seemed like it was about making money first, wrestling second. With Austin it was the only way around. He talked about making money too but not nearly as much as Hogan did and with Austin it was his passions first, money second.

While I don't believe everything Hulk wrote, I do believe he did write the book and that some of what he said was true and not all of it was false. Again, shades of gray.

Many of you guys seem to have a very black and white view point of the world.

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Again, shades of gray. Many of you guys seem to have a very black and white view point of the world.
The whole "shades of gray" argument is usually nothing but a cop-out used by people to bolster the credibility of an argument that has none. I'm sick of this whole "wisdom" that black-and-white viewpoints are somehow invalid.

Hogan is a greedy, selfish dickweed that has nothing left to offer the wrestling world except his continued absence from it. Call it black, call it white, that's my viewpoint, and fuck off if you don't like it.
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that's my viewpoint, and fuck off if you don't like it.
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Where did I ever say that I only believe Hogan? All I said was give me sources that say otherwise about Hulk Hogan's idea to turn heel.
You've basically discounted everything anyone's said in rebuttal. Hence, I mocked you by taking it to the extreme. See, I'm not debating you, I made a coment joking with DT.

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I think the reason why you all seem to think I am a blind Hogan mark is because all of you act the same way about wrestlers you are entertained by so you naturally assume everyone is like that when it comes to their favorite wrestler but that is not the case with me. Like I said, no human is perfect.
Fuck that. I like Scotty 3 Hotty. Anyone think I'm going to Alienoid him around? Naw. Never have.

The reason I think that you're a blind Hogan Mark is that you eschew reason and sense to fellate Hogan.

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Many of you guys seem to have a very black and white view point of the world.
Yep. That's me.

I believe in black and white. Logic and non. Proof and non. You have provided proof only in the sense that Hogan claimed it. But my attention span and memory tell me Hogan's said the opposite on TV. This casts dispersions on his story. Logic also disctates that since he's been full of shit in the past, taking his word on the matter doesn't make any sense. It's unreasonable.

There may be a reasonable argument in defense of Hogan, but you have not demonstrated it. On the other hand, several people have demonstrated that there IS a reasonable, a well thought out rebuttal to your statements.

You've hidden behind arghuments about how great the NWO was, which I don't remember anyone contesting. And his ingluence in the past being justification for him hurting the business in the present. These are markish arguments. And pretty blind. And hence, you fall into the "unreasonable" colour scheme. Reason has trumped you. And I'm not saying myself, because I'd rather mock you than continue to argue with you over something you're so clearly oblivious to, but there have been many good arguments. And none of them, NONE of them...Were yours.
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You boys are demonstrating your immaturity and your lack of real life experience since you have no respect for other people's opinions, you think your opinions are facts and you think life is all black and white.

You fellas spend too much time on this message board and don't tell me I'm wrong. You guys have thousands and thousands of posts. That's pretty sad.
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Ah yes, when wrong, just derail the subject.

So Venis, tell us about your real life experince. Tell us why we should respect your views. Tell us why we should give a damn about what you say. Tell us why just because you read a book that you are alpha, you are omega, you are the one who is, the one who was, and the one that has yet to come.
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Ah yes, when wrong, just derail the subject.
How did I do that? I stated my opinions, you guys stated yours. And clearly no one is going to change the others mind and perhaps you fellas like to waste your life and repeat the same stuff you've already said but I don't.

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So Venis, tell us about your real life experince. Tell us why we should respect your views. Tell us why we should give a damn about what you say. Tell us why just because you read a book that you are alpha, you are omega, you are the one who is, the one who was, and the one that has yet to come.
I never said any of that stuff. Those are your words, not mine.
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You boys are demonstrating your immaturity and your lack of real life experience since you have no respect for other people's opinions, you think your opinions are facts and you think life is all black and white.

You fellas spend too much time on this message board and don't tell me I'm wrong. You guys have thousands and thousands of posts. That's pretty sad.
See, you're hiding behind that because you know your argument is shit.

Also, demanding respect for all opinions, no matter how irrational, is stupid in and of itself. Your opinions are not worthy of respect, because they are founded in sheer idiocy.
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Cause I like doing off the wall things like that.

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That's another reason why you guys are losers. You're a bunch of homophobic assholes. I'm not gay but I don't think there's a thing wrong with being homosexual. Grow up kid.

I have decided...I AM better then all of you. Here's why:

1. I don't make personal attacks on people just because their opinions differs from mine and I keep the debates civil until someone says something rude to me.

2. I'm not some anti-gay, Fred Phelps wanna-be jack-ass.

3. I'm a mature adult with the mind of a mature, well raised 24-year old man unlike all of you who have the minds of teenage boys or ARE teenage boys.

4. I don't give a damn about rep points or if I have a high post count or not and don't think having a high post count on an internet message board is something worth bragging about, I don't live on this board and I have actual friends who I actually talk to.

5. I don't live on boards like these. I visit them yes and I say what I gotta say and then I leave and come back when I feel like it but I will never be a regular like all of you or be worried about my rep points or be concerned with what my post count is. I have higher goals in life then that.

I don't even know why I'm debating with you fellas. Many of you guys have thousands and thousands of posts on here and quite a lot of "online" friends....I win by default. You're all a waste of space. This message board is the only thing your worthless asses will ever have. And no matter what your responses to me will be....just remember one thing boys....right now as you read these words on your screen...you're allll alone.

Finally, we can debate various subjects on here but no matter what is said, in the end I will always be better then all of you...because on Friday night, I'll be out having fun whereas many of you are going to be sitting alone, watching Smackdown and talking to other losers on this message board. Nuff' said.

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Cause I like doing off the wall things like that.



That's another reason why you guys are losers. You're a bunch of homophobic assholes. I'm not gay but I don't think there's a thing wrong with being homosexual. Grow up kid.

I have decided...I AM better then all of you. Here's why:

1. I don't make personal attacks on people just because their opinions differs from mine and I keep the debates civil until someone says something rude to me.

2. I'm not some anti-gay, Fred Phelps wanna-be jack-ass.

3. I'm a mature adult with the mind of a mature, well raised 24-year old man unlike all of you who have the minds of teenage boys or ARE teenage boys.

4. I don't give a damn about rep points or if I have a high post count or not and don't think having a high post count on an internet message board is something worth bragging about, I don't live on this board and I have actual friends who I actually talk to.

5. I don't live on boards like these. I visit them yes and I say what I gotta say and then I leave and come back when I feel like it but I will never be a regular like all of you or be worried about my rep points or be concerned with what my post count is. I have higher goals in life then that.

I don't even know why I'm debating with you fellas. Many of you guys have thousands and thousands of posts on here and quite a lot of "online" friends....I win by default. You're all a waste of space. This message board is the only thing your worthless asses will ever have. And no matter what your responses to me will be....just remember one thing boys....right now as you read these words on your screen...you're allll alone.

Finally, we can debate various subjects on here but no matter what is said, in the end I will always be better then all of you...because on Friday night, I'll be out having fun whereas many of you are going to be sitting alone, watching Smackdown and talking to other losers on this message board. Nuff' said.
Notice how he's all "I don

t care about post counts," but it's one of the first things he uses to attack people? What a stupid fuck.
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I just want to know why I should give a damn about what you say. It seems you've used Wikipedia and autobiographys as your only sources.
You wanted to talk about our "lack of real life experience" so I just want to know about your background and who the hell do you think you are bring that up.
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I just want to know why I should give a damn about what you say. It seems you've used Wikipedia and autobiographys as your only sources.
You wanted to talk about our "lack of real life experience" so I just want to know about your background and who the hell do you think you are bring that up.
I never used Wikipedia. I used books from people actually in the wrestling business as sources for my infomation unlike you guys who probably use "reports" from internet nerds who are not in the business and like to post their opinions as if they were facts.

In regards of my real life experience...hey, take a look at how many posts I have and how many posts you guys have.

Enough said.
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I never used Wikipedia. I used books from people actually in the wrestling business as sources for my infomation unlike you guys who probably use "reports" from internet nerds who are not in the business and like to post their opinions as if they were facts.

In regards of my real life experience...hey, take a look at how many posts I have and how many posts you guys have.

Enough said.
For having too much of a social life to hang out on a wrestling message board you sure seem to have posted a lot in this sorry excuse for a thread
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As much as I enjoy watching people try to vindicate being the "bigger man" and laughing at the majorty there's just one thing I gotta say...

So if you're so much better than us why are you sinking down to our level? Does it make you feel good about yourself? Does it get you high? Does it make you feel better than you really are? Do you get a kick out of seeing the commoners scurry about?
Seriously, if you believe you're so much better than everyone else here, then leave. If we're all teenagers, and you're on the same message board, that makes you a pedophile. PEDOPHILE!!!!
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