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Old 09-28-2007, 10:18 AM   #41
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They work like 17/18 days out of the month, they have enough time off. Most people work five days to seven days a week.
Most people go home to their familys when they are done working, not a hotel.

Unless you're a rep or something.

Either way your not bumping
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Old 09-28-2007, 10:21 AM   #42
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Well giving a wrestler a week off wouldn't hurt as they could bring in enhancement talent to do jobs for bigger stars, and help get them over.
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Old 09-28-2007, 10:23 AM   #43
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1. Cut back on PPVs. Keep the Big Four (Royal Rumble, Mania, Summerslam, and Survivor Series), get rid of the fothers, but then add a couple of former WCW PPVs (Halloween Havoc and Starcade).

Jan - Royal Rumble
Feb - N/A
March - N/A
April - Wrestlemania
May - N/A
June - N/A
July - N/A
August - Summerslam
September - N/A
October - Halloween Havoc
November - Survivor Series
December - Starcade
With all due respect KoOS I'd like to polish up your idea with cutting back on PPVs. The three month gap without a PPV isn't looking good. While it would give the wrestlers time off the wrestlers aren't making any money, so here's how I'd play it out.
Make the brand splits stronger. Keep the big four as tri-branded PPVs but make every other PPV single or dual branded (since ECW tours with SmackDown anyways).

Jan - Royal Rumble
Feb - SmackDown/ECW
March - Raw
April - Wrestlemania
May - SmackDown
June - Raw
July - SmackDown/ECW
August - Summerslam
September - Raw
October - ECW
November - Survivor Series
December - Raw

That gives us 7 Raw, 7 SmackDown and 6 ECW.
That'll give each wrestler from every brand enough time to take a week or two off without missing PPV payoff. It'll also mean less title matches which might help the titles look more credible.
SmackDown and ECW can share a few PPVs because they go on tour with each other, and ECW can't support 12 PPVs a year at this moment.
Also keeping the brands off of PPVs will ensure the writers enough time to pull something better out of their ass than the monthly Cena Wins/Bats title scene that we've been getting.
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Old 09-28-2007, 10:26 AM   #44
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They work like 17/18 days out of the month, they have enough time off. Most people work five days to seven days a week.
No, they are in the ring 17/18 days out of the month. They are on the road constantly. They have to do all sorts of radio spots and public apperences. And find time to work out. All of that is still part of their work as well. There is also a huge difference between working 8:30 to 5 every day and getting to go home, than literally falling on your ass for 5 minutes and going to a hotel room every night.
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Old 09-28-2007, 10:27 AM   #45
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They work like 17/18 days out of the month, they have enough time off. Most people work five days to seven days a week.
Holy Robot Jesus, I'd look for a comment like that frm br0, but you... while I'm not shocked, that's still pretty fucking stupid and short sighted.
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Old 09-28-2007, 06:32 PM   #46
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With all due respect KoOS I'd like to polish up your idea with cutting back on PPVs. The three month gap without a PPV isn't looking good. While it would give the wrestlers time off the wrestlers aren't making any money, so here's how I'd play it out.
But those buyrates generally suck and not to mention, no one was complaining before the company added all of those PPVs.

I mean it's not like they only get $25 a show, so unless all they do is spend all of the money on steroids and shit, they don't have a reason to complain about missing on the throwaway PPV pay-day. Not to mention it's usually the same guys wrestling on PPV.

Also I think by keeping a large space inbetween Mania and Summerslam, it will help build up the feuds for Summerslam instead of trying to book to buildup to the PPVs inbetween.
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Old 09-28-2007, 07:32 PM   #47
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Not sure it's been discussed (not in the mood to read the thread right now) but what if they alternated months where there are no House Shows? Just do the TV tapings and PPV and that's it for that month.

If you wanted to make it even easier, also have them do double shots where they tape two shows per taping (ECW would alternate between the shows) cutting it down to only working 2-3 weeks that months.
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Old 09-28-2007, 07:52 PM   #48
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They work like 17/18 days out of the month, they have enough time off. Most people work five days to seven days a week.

I am sure they also get to go home every night with their family and relax in their home.
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Old 09-28-2007, 08:29 PM   #49
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But those buyrates generally suck and not to mention, no one was complaining before the company added all of those PPVs.

I mean it's not like they only get $25 a show, so unless all they do is spend all of the money on steroids and shit, they don't have a reason to complain about missing on the throwaway PPV pay-day. Not to mention it's usually the same guys wrestling on PPV.

Also I think by keeping a large space inbetween Mania and Summerslam, it will help build up the feuds for Summerslam instead of trying to book to buildup to the PPVs inbetween.
Well KoOS, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. I'll still say three months between PPVs is a bad idea, but m'eh.
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Old 09-28-2007, 08:32 PM   #50
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Jesus, it would fix SO MUCH just to cut back on the frequency and distance of travel. Don't make huge jumps across country overnight or over a day or two. Don't hit the road constantly. If everybody traveled together they could run a house show and a TV show from the same city on different night, or the same night. It would make things so much easier.
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Old 09-29-2007, 09:53 AM   #51
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Jesus, it would fix SO MUCH just to cut back on the frequency and distance of travel. Don't make huge jumps across country overnight or over a day or two. Don't hit the road constantly. If everybody traveled together they could run a house show and a TV show from the same city on different night, or the same night. It would make things so much easier.
Actually, they kind of do that in the first place. Or used to. You'd have a TV show in one city, and a house show like 30 minutes away, tops.

Cutting back on the frequency and distance of travel would be easy, but it would likely cut down on profits.

Fewer PPVs would also solve a lot of TV problems. I mean, it can't STOP the bad writing, but Say, for example, there were only four PPVs since Bats came back, him as #1 contender would be less painful than his fifteen shots. Cena dominating, too. In fact, regardless of who's on top, I think a title match 18 times a year is going to make the PPV title match seems less valuable. It will help solve the issue of contenders, too. If you do a different contender each month, you need like, ten main eventers or so who can reasonably chase the title for a month. If you do the same contender, you only need one, but it looks like ass.

If you mix and match, it mitigates the damage. But if you reduce the numbers, it helps a lot more. For everything except buyrates (15 low buyrates a year will trump 4-6 AMAZING nights a year), profits (Short term), and attendances (again, short term).

Apparently, WWE's already starting to drain the overseas market, which should be a sign that they should back off before the well runs low, but instead, they'll probably make like a junky and look for other locales to "inject" themselves.
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Old 09-29-2007, 11:26 AM   #52
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I think what most of us are forgetting is the simple fact that the WWE is trying to make money, and the talent is trying to make money.
If someone needs a week to rechage so they don't pull a Benoit on their family it shouldn't be a problem as long as they give people a heads up.
Cutting back on house shows and PPVs (albeit they should cut back on PPVs so they're once a month tops) would cut back on how often the fans can see them live. I've only been to a small house show but there's nothing like seeing it live.
So let's stop playing arm chair booker or stop playing god mode and let the company run itself. I think after the Chris Benoit deal happened every one from the main event to wrestlers like Mass Transit (god rest his fat soul) has an idea of what they're getting into.
And if they can't handle life on the road, then they should sign up with TNA.
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Old 09-29-2007, 01:03 PM   #53
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Cutting down on travel would be great probably. If they would really stick to regions for a month or so. Like do house shows all over New York before Raw and Smackdown to hype the actual TV Show events, then that would in turn hype the PPV events and maybe get bigger ticket sales.
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