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Old 12-13-2007, 12:40 PM   #1
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His ideas are usually the same ones over and over again, just with different characters (If we're lucky) and slightly different setups. For a while there, all of his bookings boiled down to "X drops gimmick Y for no apparent reason, turns heel, and main events at Z in six months." Until, you know, people caught on, and started mocking him for that.

They end up being lackluster as well, fairly creative only if you disregard all similar ideas booked by him or by other internet "smarks" (God, that word really does deserve to be a pejorative) and seem to come from some sort of form-fill handout. The "make sense" part really baffles me, since many of his own ideas lack any internal continuity, much less sense from the external wrestling world.

Further, Alienoid's booking would totally kill a wrestling promotion. Except maybe TNA, because the fanbase appear to be mutants.

Beyond that, he's either an idiot, divorced from reality, or pushing really hard to pretend to be one of the former. This comment alone will likely draw down several "Kane Knox" comments, because Alienoid seems to live in (and only understand) a TV fantasy world and thinks that this comment is witty after its five hundredth usage (It's still new to him, dammit!). But realistically, he fails to understand not only what people are saying as well as their motives. He takes constructive criticism of his "booking" the same way he does "'Noid, you're a retard:" With a Kano-esque fifty page response that takes offense at questioning his "genius." He's just that slow. If you disagree with him, you must mean the opposite of what he says, or whatever convenient strawman he decides you mean.

Errrr...I mean, BDC's right. Alienoid sucks.
The classic KK response to me. "All Alienoid's theories are the same." Genius, occasionally I say "As I suggested in another thread, they could do this..." posts. I know this is hard for you to grasp, but they're not meant to be completely original, despite, you know, me going deep enough to get to the specifics and making them appropriate to the personality.

I love that you're so jealous of the positive feedback I used to get for my ideas. Originally, you used to compliment me for them. And then you decided that "they're all the same" and that "everyone has noticed this." Let's assume that they are all the same: Maybe this is because there are only a few ways to push a guy? It's not like I'm writing an original screenplay here. Even if I was, you make things general enough, and there are patterns. "Oh my God! This has people in it! I saw something with people in it once! Rip off!"

As far as suggesting that a wrestler drops his gimmick and turns heel for no apparent reason? I think I may have suggested that a few times for Sean Morley. That's all I can recall. Wait, there was also Scott Taylor. There were probably more, I'll give you that, but what you are unable to grasp is that this was usually in reference to how to get a guy with a shitty gimmick to main event in as few steps as possible.

I love the way you interpret things the way you want for your argument. You make it sound like I'm only capable of what I show. If you asked me to come up with a completely original angle for a guy, I could. To be honest, most of the time my specialty was actually getting guys to feud based on past history they have had. That goes against your "it makes no sense to the external wrestling world." As far as me running a promotion, though, I can respect that you think I'd run into trouble, but the thing is, you don't know how I'd do it. You can assume, but you'd be wrong.

You see all these little glimpses of my mind, and you fail to realise that they are just that. I suggest Val Venis could be a World Champion, and you assume that I'd go in that direction. I wouldn't.

I also don't create too many topics. A lot of my posts come in response to someone else, and I riff off their ideas. You make it sound like I'm playing by these rules you have set for me. Go fuck yourself with your rules. Internal continuity? What the fuck is that? Of course they lack internal continuity, I'm not writing a fucking book with my own characters here, I'm responding to what the WWE throws at me each week. They throw something at me, I suggest what they could do, they don't do it, I move on.

I accept constructive criticism fine. I've accepted it from a lot of people on here. I used to accept it from you, but now I don't accept it from you, because quite frankly, I don't think you have anything constructive to offer. You're criticism is that I reuse the same 4 or 5 scenarios. I think that a) you're full of shit, and that b) 4 or 5 general scenarios is enough, if you play around with the specifics to create originality, which is what I set out to do. I think you misread my intentions entirely, you over analyse and obviously obsess about my posts, and that you're too tunnel-visioned to realise what a hypocrite you are, at times.

You make me sound like a fraud with templates saved on my computer that I go to. It's pointlessly discrediting. I come up with everything I suggest on the fly, and if you don't perceive them to be original, I couldn't give a fuck. You could go through the effort of categorising my ideas, but then you could categorise your posts into 2. Sarcastic and pointless, and semi-intelligent with a point, sans sarcasm.

By the way, I've never claimed to be a genius, and believe it or not, I do not have a large ego. Ask anyone who has ever offered me constructive criticism. This is all in your head, buddy. Oh, and as far as my living in a TV fantasy land? Yeah, I watch three television shows. I make Kane Knox references to you, because of how you act. That's a reflection of the person you are. If you don't want to hear it, stop being a wannabe Dr. Cox type.
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Old 12-13-2007, 12:50 PM   #2
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The classic KK response to me. "All Alienoid's theories are the same." Genius, occasionally I say "As I suggested in another thread, they could do this..." posts. I know this is hard for you to grasp, but they're not meant to be completely original, despite, you know, me going deep enough to get to the specifics and making them appropriate to the personality.

I love that you're so jealous of the positive feedback I used to get for my ideas. Originally, you used to compliment me for them. And then you decided that "they're all the same" and that "everyone has noticed this." Let's assume that they are all the same: Maybe this is because there are only a few ways to push a guy? It's not like I'm writing an original screenplay here. Even if I was, you make things general enough, and there are patterns. "Oh my God! This has people in it! I saw something with people in it once! Rip off!"

As far as suggesting that a wrestler drops his gimmick and turns heel for no apparent reason? I think I may have suggested that a few times for Sean Morley. That's all I can recall. Wait, there was also Scott Taylor. There were probably more, I'll give you that, but what you are unable to grasp is that this was usually in reference to how to get a guy with a shitty gimmick to main event in as few steps as possible.

I love the way you interpret things the way you want for your argument. You make it sound like I'm only capable of what I show. If you asked me to come up with a completely original angle for a guy, I could. To be honest, most of the time my specialty was actually getting guys to feud based on past history they have had. That goes against your "it makes no sense to the external wrestling world." As far as me running a promotion, though, I can respect that you think I'd run into trouble, but the thing is, you don't know how I'd do it. You can assume, but you'd be wrong.

You see all these little glimpses of my mind, and you fail to realise that they are just that. I suggest Val Venis could be a World Champion, and you assume that I'd go in that direction. I wouldn't.

I also don't create too many topics. A lot of my posts come in response to someone else, and I riff off their ideas. You make it sound like I'm playing by these rules you have set for me. Go fuck yourself with your rules. Internal continuity? What the fuck is that? Of course they lack internal continuity, I'm not writing a fucking book with my own characters here, I'm responding to what the WWE throws at me each week. They throw something at me, I suggest what they could do, they don't do it, I move on.

I accept constructive criticism fine. I've accepted it from a lot of people on here. I used to accept it from you, but now I don't accept it from you, because quite frankly, I don't think you have anything constructive to offer. You're criticism is that I reuse the same 4 or 5 scenarios. I think that a) you're full of shit, and that b) 4 or 5 general scenarios is enough, if you play around with the specifics to create originality, which is what I set out to do. I think you misread my intentions entirely, you over analyse and obviously obsess about my posts, and that you're too tunnel-visioned to realise what a hypocrite you are, at times.

You make me sound like a fraud with templates saved on my computer that I go to. It's pointlessly discrediting. I come up with everything I suggest on the fly, and if you don't perceive them to be original, I couldn't give a fuck. You could go through the effort of categorising my ideas, but then you could categorise your posts into 2. Sarcastic and pointless, and semi-intelligent with a point, sans sarcasm.

By the way, I've never claimed to be a genius, and believe it or not, I do not have a large ego. Ask anyone who has ever offered me constructive criticism. This is all in your head, buddy. Oh, and as far as my living in a TV fantasy land? Yeah, I watch three television shows. I make Kane Knox references to you, because of how you act. That's a reflection of the person you are. If you don't want to hear it, stop being a wannabe Dr. Cox type.
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