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Old 12-13-2007, 11:13 AM   #41
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I hope Ken Griffey Jr isnt linked to this. He was my hero in baseball.
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Old 12-13-2007, 11:25 AM   #42
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Old 12-13-2007, 11:28 AM   #43
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If I was a player who had a chance to be on that list, I would be shittin bricks right now
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Old 12-13-2007, 01:13 PM   #44
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You can't suspend people for doing things that were not against the rules. They are against the rules now, but this list he's to be presenting is coming from a time when the use was not against any baseball rules.

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If they aren't suspended, I'm willing to bet some sort of asterik is placed during the season in which the drugs were purchased for each player implicated.
Why? it wasn't against the rules, why an "*"?

I just heard on the radio someone has a partial list... a lot of yankees... the only two current Red Sox they have so far ar Tavarez and V-Tek.
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Old 12-13-2007, 01:19 PM   #45
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So, a list got leaked and it was from bloomberg... they were contacted and said they didn't send a list.

msnbc sites wnbc and puts out the whole list and now wnbc says the list has some errors.

NEW YORK -- WNBC.com's Jonathan Dienst has obtained names expected to be on George Mitchell's list of baseball players linked to performance-enhancing drugs in major league baseball. Baseball officials are refuting several names on the list

A high-ranking MLB official said there are several errors in the list provided to WNBC.com by two sources. Our two sources are standing by the preliminary list provided to WNBC.com. Therefore, we are working to clarify the list at this time

http://www.wnbc.com/sports/14845845/detail.html
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Yeah, saw that partial list or whatever online somewhere. Who knows if its right or not but the names seemed believable. There were Yankees on it but none of the ones I would call "prominent" - A-Rod, Jeter, Posada, Rivera besides Pettitte
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Old 12-13-2007, 01:22 PM   #47
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None of the Yankees named shocked me except Damon, although, I guess I can see it. Just look at how he broke down last year.
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Yeah, Damon was a little surprising from that list. Farnsworth was probably the least surprising ever though. Again, who knows if that list is accurate but it seems believable.
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If you go by the Stereotype Damon shouldn't shock anyone... look at him in KC and then look at him his final year with the Red Sox.
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the only one I've heard from the "possible" partial list that suprised me was Trot Nixon... if you ever hear this guy talk, every other word is god this or jesus christ that... just didn't strike me as the type.
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The following names are expected to be part of the report, according to WNBC:

Brady Anderson, Manny Alexander, Rick Ankiel, Jeff Bagwell, Barry Bonds, Aaron Boone, Rafaeil Bettancourt, Bret Boone, Milton Bradley, David Bell, Dante Bichette, Albert Belle, Paul Byrd, Wil Cordero, Ken Caminiti, Mike Cameron, Ramon Castro, Jose and Ozzie Canseco, Roger Clemens, Paxton Crawford, Wilson Delgado, Lenn y Dykstra, Johnny Damon, Carl Everett, Kyle Farnsoworth, Ryan Franklin, Troy Glaus, Rich Garces, Jason Grimsley, Troy Glaus, Juan Gonzalez, Eric Gagne, Nomar Garciaparra, Jason Giambi, Jeremy Giambi, Jose Guillen, Jay Gibbons, Juan Gonzalez, Clay Hensley, Jerry Hairston, Felix Heredia, Jr., Darren Holmes, Wally Joyner, Darryl Kile, Matt Lawton, Raul Mondesi, Mark McGwire, Guillermo Mota, Robert Machado, Damian Moss, Abraham Nunez, Trot Nixon, Jose Offerman, Andy Pettitte, Mark Prior, Neifi Perez, Rafael Palmiero, Albert Pujols, Brian Roberts, Juan Rincon, John Rocker, Pudge Rodriguez, Sammy Sosa, Scott Sc hoenweiis, David Segui, Alex Sanchez, Gary Sheffield, Miguel Tejada, Julian Tavarez, Fernando Tatis, Maurice Vaughn, Jason Varitek, Ismael Valdez, Matt Williams and Kerry Wood.
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the only one I've heard from the "possible" partial list that suprised me was Trot Nixon... if you ever hear this guy talk, every other word is god this or jesus christ that... just didn't strike me as the type.
Yeah, Pettitte doesn't shock me or anything since he's been linked before with Clemens. He just didn't seem like the "type" that would do it. What the "type" is I have no idea. Just the feeling or whatever.
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Old 12-13-2007, 01:35 PM   #53
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I'm with SammyG, Andruw Jones for sure.
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my question is how many players did it to get better and how many did it after injuries.

I see a lot of players who has injury problems and wonder if they turned to that to heal better/faster not improve performance.
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my question is how many players did it to get better and how many did it after injuries.

I see a lot of players who has injury problems and wonder if they turned to that to heal better/faster not improve performance.
Yeah, I hope the report differentiates between those who did it for personal gain and those who had legitimate reasons for using them.
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my question is how many players did it to get better and how many did it after injuries.

I see a lot of players who has injury problems and wonder if they turned to that to heal better/faster not improve performance.

doesnt matter
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LOL the lawyer on ESPN was talking about Mitchell and he was like " This is the same guy that tried to go after Jason Priestly ".

( he meant Grimsley )
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he wont name the names, downlaod the report .pdf and look through it you can search for names.

cnn.com has the report.

Clemens is fucked... looks like Canseco got him on it back with the Blue Jays.
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Someone post that .pdf from CNN or whatever, not waiting for this stupid shit. ACTUALLY, I'll give him 10 more minutes.
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Old 12-13-2007, 03:26 PM   #70
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I don't see a lot of the "list" in the report.

Only 2 big former sox names I found were Clemens and Vaughn.

some big yankees: Clemens, Pettite, Knobloch, Justice, Kevin Brown.
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Old 12-13-2007, 03:27 PM   #71
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lol Kevin Brown. Also, I think Bob Sanders is on this.
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he wont name the names, downlaod the report .pdf and look through it you can search for names.

cnn.com has the report.
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Old 12-13-2007, 03:29 PM   #73
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http://i.l.cnn.net/cnn/2007/images/1...ell.report.pdf

just glanced through it, I see Lo Duca
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Fernando Vina, Mo Vaughn,

lol wtf is going on with ESPN. LOL is anyone hearing this?!?!?!?!??! Some spanish guy talking?!
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Old 12-13-2007, 03:33 PM   #76
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when did he start talking? 2:15 i heard him on the radio and they went to commercial or something? now he is talking on ESPN what
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Yeah, doesn't seem like some of those big names from that "list" are on it. It seems like a lot of people everyone knew or assumed.
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Old 12-13-2007, 03:39 PM   #79
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I heard that dude talking too Sammy, I thought it was Borat lol

No Nomar on the report, I knew he was clean
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No Damon, Farnsworth, Varitek, Pujols, etc...from that "list" from earlier.

Saw a lot of former Yankees while looking through it..Knoblauch, Justice, Villone

Really no huge names that people haven't heard before though
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