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Old 02-17-2008, 11:49 PM   #1
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Oh good. Triple H vs Orton. Again.
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Old 02-17-2008, 11:48 PM   #2
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Old 02-17-2008, 11:48 PM   #3
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Jeff kicking out of that pedigree was UNREAL

Good match, Jeff's gonna come out of this stronger, favourite for MITB
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They did the stupidest thing and put HHH back in a title match
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Old 02-17-2008, 11:48 PM   #5
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VERY good PPV considering the norm lately. Big show segment gave me an attitude era feeling.
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Let me guess. Triple H in another underwhelming outcome?
So match quality means nothing? The outcome is everything and negates the match?

The fact that Hardy kicked out of a Pedigree made him look EXTREMELY strong. Overall it was the best thing that could have happened in this scenario and it actually worked. Get your head out of your ass.
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So match quality means nothing? The outcome is everything and negates the match?

The fact that Hardy kicked out of a Pedigree made him look EXTREMELY strong. Overall it was the best thing that could have happened in this scenario and it actually worked. Get your head out of your ass.
Did I say the match quality means nothing? I just said the end result was underwhelming, which it was. Every man and his dog (even if he does not own one) predicted Triple H would win.

To quote KoOS earlier: "YAY FOR BEING PREDICTABLE!"

I never once looked down on the match quality. And here I was thinking you could read, Xero.
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Did I say the match quality means nothing? I just said the end result was underwhelming, which it was. Every man and his dog (even if he does not own one) predicted Triple H would win.

To quote KoOS earlier: "YAY FOR BEING PREDICTABLE!"

I never once looked down on the match quality. And here I was thinking you could read, Xero.
You never look at the big picture, though. You're always shitting on the obvious. "Ooohhh... Triple H won again... That's ALL that matters." And that's how you always come off.

I still feel Hardy is a while from a title win. It was either him or Hunter. Hardy would have been a terrible choice - especially because Cena is likely winning at Mania ANYWAY. Let Hardy's build continue. He's not going to lose steam anytime soon. He's being built just fine and by summer I feel he will be ready.
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Old 02-18-2008, 12:12 AM   #11
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Let me guess. Triple H in another underwhelming outcome?
Yep. Jeff Hardys face on a chair. Have to love it.
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Fuck, that was a good end, despite Trips winning it was done well I must say. Jeff HAS to win MITB now.
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Excellent match. Goddamn WWE for not giving Hardy the win. They did get him more over at least.
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GREAT PPV. dunno what else tos ay, glad cena didnt win, surprised by floyd/big show. all around perfect ppv.
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Erm, Alienoid, just look at the responses and number of pages in this thread. It was amazing.
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Erm, Alienoid, just look at the responses and number of pages in this thread. It was amazing.
Triple H winning and facing Randy Orton and/or John Cena is not amazing. It is predictable, "been there done that," and in my opinion, boring.

The Elimination Chamber sounds as well-booked as it could have been with Triple H going over, which is a surprise from an Elimination Chamber match, as for the most part, they are pretty poorly done.

Besides that, the only thing that really sounds "amazing" was Big Show's shit with Floyd Mayweather, which I will admit sounds pretty cool.

I think people are so used to shit from the WWE in general, that as soon as two moments of greatness turn up, people hail it as an "amazing show." I'm glad people enjoyed themselves, but I'm going to scream it was perfect show at the top of my lungs, because it wasn't even close. We've got Orton vs. Triple H and Edge vs. Undertaker scheduled as the main events. I'm interested in neither match.
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Triple H winning and facing Randy Orton and/or John Cena is not amazing. It is predictable, "been there done that," and in my opinion, boring.

The Elimination Chamber sounds as well-booked as it could have been with Triple H going over, which is a surprise from an Elimination Chamber match, as for the most part, they are pretty poorly done.

Besides that, the only thing that really sounds "amazing" was Big Show's shit with Floyd Mayweather, which I will admit sounds pretty cool.

I think people are so used to shit from the WWE in general, that as soon as two moments of greatness turn up, people hail it as an "amazing show." I'm glad people enjoyed themselves, but I'm going to scream it was perfect show at the top of my lungs, because it wasn't even close. We've got Orton vs. Triple H and Edge vs. Undertaker scheduled as the main events. I'm interested in neither match.
You are wrong. I'm not defending either one of you, I'm saying that the WWE has played their cards right here. For a year or so now, they have wanted Orton vs HHH at WM for the title. For as long as me and Loose Cannon can remember, the dream matchup at WM for the title has been Cena vs Orton. The WWE has used their brains for once and should combine the 2 ideas and have it as the main event at WM. I've always held a great respect for you Noid, but here I will STRONGLY disagree with you.
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Old 02-18-2008, 09:13 AM   #31
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In fact...the more people complain, the more it annoys me...a few points...

-You got to see Chavo going over clean with a World Title...he deserves it and I would have thought most would be pleased for him in here...think the win raises him to Punk's level rather than the other way around.

-You got to see MVP being hilarious and getting thrown off a pod, Finlay chokeslammed on the steel, and a really inventive finish. Pretty eventful for a match I expected nothing from. Big Daddy V also looked srong coming in to the chamber, which only helps ECW.

-Edge and Misterio was pretty good, considering Rey...

-...and what it was used to set up...wow...I dunno, if Mayweather/Show was not gripping television to you, I don't know what is...could not take my eyes off it

-Kennedy looked great against a strong Flair. Not a big Kennedy fan, but he looked strong and in turn, helped Flari look strong...will make people want to see his Mania match all the more.

- Orton kept the title...for me, enough said. But seriously...it extended his character beautifully and made me REALLY like Orton...he is becoming a massive star in his own right. The fans chanting "Goodbye" to Cena after the match while he frustratingly looked at the Mania sign was classic (even though he will get in the match tonight )

-Raw Chamber was best chamber yet, beautifully booked. Umaga looked like a real warrior and threat, Jericho looked strong (put Codebreaker over, which I think had been lacking until now), Micheals and HHH went out of their way to make others look gold, Hardy looked like he could beat anybody...and they HAVEN'T given him the title too early. He is being built up to a proper main event level, and I think a title run after a MITB win, going over HHH/Cena/Orton clean will solidify him as a proper main eventer.

well done WWE...after all the criticism, just gonna take my hat off to them tonight. The PPV was great.
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Old 02-18-2008, 12:11 AM   #32
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Fuck the results, the entertainment was great and the main thing was, CENA DIDNT WIN THE TITLE!

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You didn't even see the God damn show. Flair/Kennedy was good. Chavo/Punk was good. The only real weakspots were the SD elimination chamber and the WWE title match. Was it a perfect show? Fuck no. But by REAL "good" standards, it was "Good".
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You didn't even see the God damn show. Flair/Kennedy was good. Chavo/Punk was good. The only real weakspots were the SD elimination chamber and the WWE title match. Was it a perfect show? Fuck no. But by REAL "good" standards, it was "Good".
I'm sure they were good matches, but I feel they are hurt by the booking. Flair vs. Kennedy would have made sense for a DQ. Kennedy is a guy the WWE is trying to pass off as a rising heel, so even if they decide to not have him end Ric Flair's career, they could still build so the option is there. A steel chair driven into the leg would have made for some great drama, built up Kennedy's heat, built up the support for Flair (as fans would further question if he would be able to defend his spot on the roster with his next match).

Chavo vs. Punk would have been good, and I was going to list it as a good match. They've been having some good matches on ECW, but I'm sure they kicked it up for the PPV. Chavo going over cleanly was the wrong move, though. I'm not trying to scream "Punk is getting burried!" so don't turn it into that. Chavo is not exactly "Mr. Credible," however, and while I have no problem with making him such, I don't think it was wise to do it at the expense of Punk. Chavo defeating Punk with a roll-up, or some lying, cheating and stealing would have made for a finish that helped both men.

Believe it or not, booking does matter. I'm sure the matches were good, but there was something a little off about both of them. A 60-something year old man going over relatively clean, and a heel that really only wins when he cheats doing the same, doesn't really help the talents that they are competing against (even if it doesn't cripple their momentum, which would be worst case scenario).

Even if we just went solely by match quality: the SmackDown! Chamber sounds pretty crappy, Chavo vs. Punk was good, Flair vs. Kennedy sounds good, Cena/Orton I'm completely apathetic to, and the RAW Chamber was great. How does that add up to "amazing?" Why should I be cumming over this despite poor booking choices?
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I'm sure they were good matches, but I feel they are hurt by the booking. Flair vs. Kennedy would have made sense for a DQ. Kennedy is a guy the WWE is trying to pass off as a rising heel, so even if they decide to not have him end Ric Flair's career, they could still build so the option is there. A steel chair driven into the leg would have made for some great drama, built up Kennedy's heat, built up the support for Flair (as fans would further question if he would be able to defend his spot on the roster with his next match).

Chavo vs. Punk would have been good, and I was going to list it as a good match. They've been having some good matches on ECW, but I'm sure they kicked it up for the PPV. Chavo going over cleanly was the wrong move, though. I'm not trying to scream "Punk is getting burried!" so don't turn it into that. Chavo is not exactly "Mr. Credible," however, and while I have no problem with making him such, I don't think it was wise to do it at the expense of Punk. Chavo defeating Punk with a roll-up, or some lying, cheating and stealing would have made for a finish that helped both men.

Believe it or not, booking does matter. I'm sure the matches were good, but there was something a little off about both of them. A 60-something year old man going over relatively clean, and a heel that really only wins when he cheats doing the same, doesn't really help the talents that they are competing against (even if it doesn't cripple their momentum, which would be worst case scenario).

Even if we just went solely by match quality: the SmackDown! Chamber sounds pretty crappy, Chavo vs. Punk was good, Flair vs. Kennedy sounds good, Cena/Orton I'm completely apathetic to, and the RAW Chamber was great. How does that add up to "amazing?" Why should I be cumming over this despite poor booking choices?
The SD chamber had its moments where it was slow, but the Tombstone by Taker at the end was SICK. But you wouldn't care about it would you. All you care about is finding out the next way you can dream about Val Venis and Paul London competing for the WWE title in your bizarro dream world.
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