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Old 02-27-2008, 09:00 AM   #41
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Well, when you don't follow boxing it is hard to know who some light heavy wieght boxer is. That is like getting pissed at people who don't follow MMA and not knowing who Chuck Lidel is.
NO

It's be more like someone who doesn't follow basketball not knowing who Kobe Bryant is.. Boxing is covered by all types of mainstream media.. It's not like you have to seek out news about boxing.. It's always in the newspaper, on tv (even on channels like CNN), and is constantly actually shown on regular cable tv.. The same can not be said about MMA..

That's a stupid analogy..
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Old 02-27-2008, 09:03 AM   #42
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Just face it, a lot of people didn't know who the fuck he was.
Alot of pro wrestling fans didn't know who he was..

I bet worldwide, he is much more known than the Big Show..
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Old 02-27-2008, 09:05 AM   #43
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I get it, they get on your radar when they're modelling underwear.


I had no idea who Jordan was until he signed on with Hanes.
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Old 02-27-2008, 09:47 AM   #44
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Alot of pro wrestling fans didn't know who he was..

I bet worldwide, he is much more known than the Big Show..
The real question is, would the people who know him buy a wrestling PPV because of it?
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Old 02-27-2008, 10:01 AM   #45
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I think it might interest some people, might even push people who are on the verge of buying as well. I know it's not really measurable. However from a business standpoint, say if it was between hiring Mayweather and spending a further $20 000 000 on various advertising techniques - I think they called it well. It's generating interest outside the wrestling world at the very least.

It's the only match I know of at Wrestlemania beside Batista v. Umaga (read it on here today).
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Old 02-27-2008, 10:08 AM   #46
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So...It's not measurable, but it's succeeding. I will follow your lead, and pull results straight out of my ass.
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Old 02-27-2008, 10:14 AM   #47
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Not measureable in specific number of directly attributable buyrates, succeeding in interest. Pretty simple logic.
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Old 02-27-2008, 10:22 AM   #48
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More interest was generated from Donald Trump's involvement; measurable interest that translated into buyrates. That didn't cost them 20 million. Your logic sucks.
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Old 02-27-2008, 10:35 AM   #49
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They're obviously catering to a different market. I've seen more build up for Wrestlemania this year already because of Mayweather's involvement than I have of Trump's last year (i.e none).
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I'd like to go on record as of saying, for those who say "I don't know who Flloyd Mayweather is, therefore a lot of people must not" all I can weigh in with is my observations.

I live with 6 other college males, none of them have been wrestling fans since the attitude era. I'm also around another dozen or so people who are in the same boat. All of them are interetested in watching Wrestlemania and are genuinely intrigued by the whole thing, and all the news and rumors regarding. They even tune into Raw just to see the segments, and usually have comments for me about how awful the storylines and show is, and how much of a slob Val Venis has become and stuff like that.

Granted, this is the observation of a small group of one demographic. However it holds to it far more weight as a survey of how recognizable and draw-able Mayweather is than one or two smarks who rarely leave the computer saying "I've never heard of him its a waste of money and he ca't draw, how about that Londrick match on heat tho?"

But it's seriously going to help buyrates, and up attendance at sports bar type settings which carry wrestlemania.
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Old 02-27-2008, 11:16 AM   #51
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Oh and yes I knew who he was, I know nothing about boxing nor do I follow it but he's pretty damn famous. Plus he was all over HBO and non-wrestling television.

I actually can list all the boxers who ever have boxed that I know..
Muhamad Ali, Jou Louis, Sugar Ray Leonard, Rocky Marciano, Mike Tyson, Evander Hollyfield, Lennox Lewis, Oscar DeLa Hoya, Roy Jones and Flloyd Mayweather
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Old 02-27-2008, 11:18 AM   #52
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I know Oscar De La Hoya is. I would probably even reconize him in a crowd. Then again, De La Hoya was in boxing when it still was barely relevent.
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I mean, with no interest in boxing, and rarely seeing anything about it, I find it hard to not know who these people are. I have no interest in the whole paparazzi TMZ bullshit, but I still know who Perez Hilton and Kim Kardashian and all those psuedo celebrities are.
I also have no interest in soccer, but I know who Ronaldinho and Rooney and Henry and all the famous players are.

Are people completely oblivious to the world around them?
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Old 02-27-2008, 11:26 AM   #54
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NO

It's be more like someone who doesn't follow basketball not knowing who Kobe Bryant is.. Boxing is covered by all types of mainstream media.. It's not like you have to seek out news about boxing.. It's always in the newspaper, on tv (even on channels like CNN), and is constantly actually shown on regular cable tv.. The same can not be said about MMA..

That's a stupid analogy..
I think you exmaple is worse for the following reasons:

1) To my knowledge MMA is bigger than boxing is right now.

2) Kobe has had sex scandels and you would have to live in a hole not to know who he is, plus he is further along in his career than Mayweather is, probably. I'm not sure, but it seems that way too me.

3) Boxing is crap.
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Old 02-27-2008, 11:28 AM   #55
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I mean, with no interest in boxing, and rarely seeing anything about it, I find it hard to not know who these people are. I have no interest in the whole paparazzi TMZ bullshit, but I still know who Perez Hilton and Kim Kardashian and all those psuedo celebrities are.
I also have no interest in soccer, but I know who Ronaldinho and Rooney and Henry and all the famous players are.

Are people completely oblivious to the world around them?
I know of this Ronaldinho you speak of he was in a Simpsons, correct? The other 2 I don't know.

Also, why spaz out because people aren't completely aware of an athelete from a dying sport?
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Old 02-27-2008, 11:29 AM   #56
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Well Mayweather beat De La Hoya with Jack Nicholson, Michael Jordan and that lass from Desperate Housewives in attendance. People like Michael Jordan...he was a good baseball player.

Do you guys know who Tiger Woods is?
The Mackem, you are crazy. Michael Jordan was not a good baseball player. He was however pretty good at basketball though.
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Old 02-27-2008, 12:08 PM   #57
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They're obviously catering to a different market. I've seen more build up for Wrestlemania this year already because of Mayweather's involvement than I have of Trump's last year (i.e none).
Catering to a different market doesn't mean much. Nor does the fact that you saw nothing promoting McMahon/Trump.
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I never heard of him before No Way Out. I barely watch tv, and don't follow real sports in way shape or form.
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Old 02-27-2008, 01:04 PM   #59
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I'm surprised there are people on this site that haven't heard of him.
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I seriously can't believe all these people didn't know who he was. Even for sports I don't watch, I can name some top stars.
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The thing that really gets me though is the fact that they're trying to play him as a face. In that big De La Hoya fight (which I'm shocked that some people didn't even catch a glimpse of the hype machine there), he was made to be the cocky, arrogant asshole against Oscar's....well, Golden Boy.
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Have you guys ever even played the Fight Night video games? Never even saw his name scrolling through characters?
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And why isn't this poll public? This is an outrage.
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Also, to be fair, it looks like most of the people who voted they didn't know who he was. Also said they have heard the name or had a very vague idea of who he was.
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Old 02-27-2008, 01:58 PM   #65
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They should have got George Foreman instead. More people know who he is. He's got big crossover appeal.
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I've heard the name before, but didn't actually know who he was.
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Old 02-27-2008, 02:38 PM   #67
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I guess I can see how someone could not know who he was, but it's surprising to see that on a wrestling forum where people are fans of professional wrestling and mixed martial arts. I guess it goes to show that some of you like to stay in your specific "niche" of entertainment.
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Have you guys ever even played the Fight Night video games? Never even saw his name scrolling through characters?
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Also, to be fair, it looks like most of the people who voted they didn't know who he was. Also said they have heard the name or had a very vague idea of who he was.
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Old 02-27-2008, 04:07 PM   #69
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Catering to a different market doesn't mean much. Nor does the fact that you saw nothing promoting McMahon/Trump.
If it was indicative of a sample of the population it definitely would be. People will be more interested in Mayweather for the pure fact that he is at the top of his game and that his fights attract a lot of people. Not one person came up to me and said 'Donald Trump is going to be at Wrestlemania' last year nor did I see anything in the media. I've already had dozens of ex-wrestling fans mentioning Mayweather having seen all about him and the Big Show on the news. The news anchors that I was watching were even commenting on the fact that Mayweather's punch was real.

I'm pleasantly suprised by the WWE's direction on this. They've set out an interesting strategy which could lead to a fresh direction for the product if handled well in Wrestlemania's aftermath.
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Old 02-27-2008, 04:09 PM   #70
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Money is quite well known now in the UK due to the Hatton fight etc. Quite a lot of publicity on UK Sports TV and Radio and stuff. Working a treat if you ask me.

I like Mayweather as a fighter, and he's a better heel in Boxing then any of the so-called ones in WWE at the moment. It's gold and probably worth $20m imo.
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Old 02-27-2008, 04:10 PM   #71
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If it was indicative of a sample of the population it definitely would be. People will be more interested in Mayweather for the pure fact that he is at the top of his game and that his fights attract a lot of people. Not one person came up to me and said 'Donald Trump is going to be at Wrestlemania' last year nor did I see anything in the media. I've already had dozens of ex-wrestling fans mentioning Mayweather having seen all about him and the Big Show on the news. The news anchors that I was watching were even commenting on the fact that Mayweather's punch was real.

I'm pleasantly suprised by the WWE's direction on this. They've set out an interesting strategy which could lead to a fresh direction for the product if handled well in Wrestlemania's aftermath.
Still going with the "pulling it out your ass" route, I see.
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I think Maywheather is acutally going to be pretty good leading up to Mania. Even better if they go the heel route.

Still though I don't believe the he is getting 20 mill. This would be the most ridiclious over spending for a person ever.
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I think Maywheather is acutally going to be pretty good leading up to Mania. Even better if they go the heel route.

Still though I don't believe the he is getting 20 mill. That would be way over spending.
Probably over exaggerated like everything else in the WWE.
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Old 02-27-2008, 09:44 PM   #76
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I think you exmaple is worse for the following reasons:

1) To my knowledge MMA is bigger than boxing is right now.

2) Kobe has had sex scandels and you would have to live in a hole not to know who he is, plus he is further along in his career than Mayweather is, probably. I'm not sure, but it seems that way too me.

3) Boxing is crap.
I'm saying boxing is still a more "mainstream" sport than MMA.. The fact that my local paper covers boxing but has never done an MMA story proves this, in my view.. I completely understand that MMA is better and much more entertaining ATM..

You really cant be that big of an MMA fan cause Mayweather came out and boasted last year that he is the best fighter in the world etc etc and that he could be any MMA fighter etc etc.. There has been alot of hype in the MMA world about him fighting in UFC..

Also, your whole "MMA is bigger" shit is flat out wrong.. I think the highest buyrate for any PPV ever was a few months ago when FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR beat Oscar De La Hoya, just an FYI..

Another little tidbit of info for you, Mayweather became pro in 1996, the same year Kobe was drafted..

p.s. I f'n hate Mayweather BTW..
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Old 02-28-2008, 08:05 AM   #77
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I'm saying boxing is still a more "mainstream" sport than MMA.. The fact that my local paper covers boxing but has never done an MMA story proves this, in my view..

Just don't expect it to prove it to anyone else. After all:
  1. Newspapers are generally the vanguard of the old.
  2. Your personal experience does not equal the experience of the world.
  3. PENGUIN FUCKER! (No, I'm joking, settle down Krispy)
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Old 02-28-2008, 08:22 AM   #78
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Watch the sports portion of your local news anytime there's a big boxing match going on and I bet they mention it.. Along with the sports portion of national news, on say, CNN.. Also on mainstream sports channels like Fox Sports and ESPN.. MMA gets about a tenth of the coverage pro boxing gets on a local and national level.. Yes that is my personal experience, and to say it does not equal the experience of the world is retarded..
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Old 02-28-2008, 09:34 AM   #79
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Watch the sports portion of your local news anytime there's a big boxing match going on and I bet they mention it..

You'd lose that wager....
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