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Old 02-27-2008, 11:07 AM   #41
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Fuck Cena. He just wants Rock to job to him.
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Old 02-27-2008, 11:12 AM   #42
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Alls I'm sayin' is that Rock is doing movies which allow him more time with his family, less stress on his body (short term and long term) and we all know his movie career will eventraully come to an end or at least fade. I believe at that point, he will want to come back to wrestling in a limited role, showing up a few times a year, no point in killing himself if he can afford not too.

I just can't believe anyone would call Rock selfish. He has put over more guys than Cena and HHH combined. Though I'm not suprised spot like hogs like Cena and HHH have beef with Rock.
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Old 02-27-2008, 11:35 AM   #43
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I always thought Rock was the greatest thing since sliced bread (check that, not always, cant say I thought that during the whole Rocky Maivia run, but you know what I mean).

Anyway, someone touched on the real reason he isnt around, and it has to do with the fact that he doesnt want to be associated with wrestling, because the stigma is its bad for his career as a movie star. The belief is that if he kept going back to WWE he would be thought of as a pro wrestler who does movies, rather than a legit movie star.

One could argue this is faulty logic because the biggest opening he ever did was for Scorpion King, which was during his run in WWE. However its also fair to point out that nowadays, you hear less and less questions to him about his days in tights rolling around with sweaty men. So I can see both sides of the arguement.

I believe he's even dropped "The Rock" from his name when he's listed in a movie. I think I recall reading that going forward he's just going to be "Dwayne Johnson". So clearly its a strategy by his people to separate The Rock the pro wrestler from Dwayne Johnson the movie star.

Lets face it, the movies is a far more lucrative business to be in. Rock can make in one movie what very guys make in an entire career in pro wrestling. So it makes sense for him to ensure that the movie career is not jeopardized.

Going back and forth to the WWE would not help in this regard, because people would still recognize him for being a WWE superstar and they would see the crazy antics that go on during the show, and he would be lumped in with all that. For the sake of Rock's career do you think he's better off being photographed for People magazine hanging out with George Clooney at some big movie premiere, or chasing around a midget dressed like a leprachaun?

Its also understandable that people who have to bust their ass every night to make a small fraction of what he makes in a year would be a little jealous of what he has going for him.

Here's another way to look at it. Say a porn star somehow makes it huge in Hollywood. Would you expect that porn star to go back and do the occasional gangbang scene every 6 months or so just to show she still loves the business she came from and still loves her fans? Or would you be cool with sitting down with a box of tissues, some lotion and a stack of her old tapes to enjoy her past success?

Not saying RAW is PORN, because thats been said before, but you get my point.
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Old 02-27-2008, 11:59 AM   #44
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Again, I wouldn't call Rock's movie career a success, especially not to his standards. He's been at it for several years and he's only a D/C list actor. He'll still make more money on one movie than I would in many many years, but it doesn't seem like anyone in Hollywood with any power respects him. He's stll "The Rock from the WWE".
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He's not a top A-list actor yet but I don't consider him as low as C/D. He's about a B+. C/D actors get small roles or are in direct to TV/DVD films. The Rock has starred in many of his own movies with lots of very known actors. I would say he is very successful. Not Will Smith/Tom Cruise successful but you get the point.
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I love Walking Tall and the other one that's just like Walking Tall. The one with the American Pie kid
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Did Rock just do a Dinsey movie? I'm just saying d level actors don't star in Disney movies.
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Runaround or Knockaround something like that. It is a pretty standard, therefore good action movie.
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The Rundown is a pretty good action movie in my opinion. I just watched it two nights ago actually, and its a movie I can watch repeatedly without getting bored of it.

Walking Tall was pretty good as well and I think his Disney movie did pretty well.

Hes going to be in the Get Smart remake and that stars Steve Carrell and Anne Hathaway, two pretty well known actors/tresses that wont win an Oscar but are pretty well know. Id say his acting career has been pretty successful, and hey he even got to present at the Oscars. Never thought id see the Rock even associated with the Oscars.

I didnt care for Scorpion King or Be Cool.
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Old 02-27-2008, 03:26 PM   #52
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What pisses me off is that Cena claims to love the our fans, yet he hasn't politicked his way out of the title scene. Which is good for him. Just don't f**k me around and tell me you love this when you hold the belt for three years.
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Cena isn't fit to shine The Rock's shoes.

His whole tirade smacks of jealousy. Jealousy that The Rock is far far more of a mainstream star than Cena will ever be. Also, Dwayne can act a bit - something that Cena can't do to any believable effect.

Did 'The Marine' break Top 10 in the US box office? Don't really know, but how many of Rock's movies went to No.1? Most of them. Including the typical 'Disney one where big action man is thrust into parental responsibility'? Says it all.

The Rock owes the WWE nothing. He was a heavy participant in the boom-period and is one of the bonafide stars to be created WHILE STILL IN the business and recognised as such. He brought the WWE worldwide publicity, was a household name and made Vince a fucking load of money. Perhaps Rock wanted to be an actor MORE than a wrestler? Happens in life. If the same oppotunity presented Cena, would he turn it down? Would he fuck.

The people on here criticising, along with Cena/Trips are criticising for one reason and one reason alone. The product is total shit. Has been since The Rock left. Hunter hasn't had a decent feud since he left. Had we had years of top quality entertainment, then people wouldn't bat an eyelid.

The Rock is a legend who moved on to other things of which he excels at and makes lots of money doing those things rather ruining a legacy like Austin & Foley have. Good fucking on him.

Fuck Cena. I didn't think it possible, but I hate him even more.
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Yeah, the Rundown was a good action movie, though a bit short. Walking Tall was great, though a lot short. The guy's doing well for himself. As BDC said, you don't do Disney movies as a D-Rate movie star. I love the entitlement that gets people up on their high horses bitching about the Rock.
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Old 02-28-2008, 09:07 AM   #58
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Rock is the best actor who has ever been a wrestler.

Cena is about on the same tier as Hogan, if you ask me.
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Cena's better than Hogan, though how much is debatable.
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I rather agree with Cena. I don't care if the Rock wants to act rather than wrestle, and I won't be sad if I never see him in the ring again. I just don't want to hear him go on about how much he LOVES wrestling and LOVES WWE when he can't be arsed to show up once in a while.
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And at the same time, just like he says in that video up there, if he doesn't WANT to be in WWE, he shouldn't be. He's better to stay away if that's his attitude.
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I rather agree with Cena. I don't care if the Rock wants to act rather than wrestle, and I won't be sad if I never see him in the ring again. I just don't want to hear him go on about how much he LOVES wrestling and LOVES WWE when he can't be arsed to show up once in a while.
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What Cena doesn't get is that the Rock has to seperate himself from pro wrestling, otherwise hollywood will look down on him.
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Old 02-28-2008, 09:24 PM   #68
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What Cena doesn't get is that the Rock has to seperate himself from pro wrestling, otherwise hollywood will look down on him.
That's bullshit.
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Old 02-28-2008, 11:45 PM   #69
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Lol. Standard = Good. I guess that's succesful. No one mentioned Doom, which I forgot about myself. And he holds the record for highest salary for his first starring role.

Also, apparently The Great Khali will also be in Get Smart. Which I guess makes more sense than it originally looks like it does.
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I don't mention Doom because I would never watcxh said piece of shit.
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That's bullshit.
I wonder about that though. I don't necessarily have the opinion that he has to separate himself to be taken seriously, but...

If you look at his movies, none of them have been bad. Most (I think) have made money, I don't have numbers due to utter laziness, but the movies haven't been critically destoryed, they've made money, none of the roles have been joke roles and he's a solid actor.

There has to be SOME reason why he isn't more of a mainstream figure in Hollywood
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I wonder about that though. I don't necessarily have the opinion that he has to separate himself to be taken seriously, but...

If you look at his movies, none of them have been bad. Most (I think) have made money, I don't have numbers due to utter laziness, but the movies haven't been critically destoryed, they've made money, none of the roles have been joke roles and he's a solid actor.

There has to be SOME reason why he isn't more of a mainstream figure in Hollywood
That could be said of many actors who AREN'T former pro wrestlers, though.
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That could be said of many actors who AREN'T former pro wrestlers, though.
That's Bullshit.
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If Rock does come back and feud with Cena for a little, with The Rock winning of course, then I will give you all the most electrifying blowjobs in sports gaytertainment.
that probably would've sounded funnier if you said entergayment, tbh
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I am over my "SCREW YOU ROCK" phase everybody went through in 04 and 05. I really would love to see a Cena/Rock fued so Cena can get eaten alive on the mic.
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Did everyone really go through a "Screw You Rock" phase? Because seriously, I just thought it was an isolated group of assclowns.
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And do what, use his 'roids only after being acquired by the Red Sox?
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