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Old 03-08-2008, 09:00 PM   #1
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Here is my opinion on this guy, now take this as constructive criticizm. But I don't think this guy fits in WWE. Now things have changed since the end of 2006, and the face of WWE has changed. I find the cat extremely overrated, and boring. Plus I find him to be quite the trashbag of a person in real-life, so what do you all think?
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Old 03-08-2008, 09:04 PM   #2
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Yay, just what we needed. Another CM Punk thread.
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Old 03-08-2008, 09:19 PM   #4
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Here is my opinion on this guy, now take this as constructive criticizm. But I don't think this guy fits in WWE. Now things have changed since the end of 2006, and the face of WWE has changed. I find the cat extremely overrated, and boring. Plus I find him to be quite the trashbag of a person in real-life, so what do you all think?
Well, I'm a bit split.

I dont find him to be boring, I actually like his style and find it pretty refreshing but I DO think he gets overrated too much on the net.

So in terms of a wrestler I like him.

Obviously I dont know him as a person, but from what ive read and from what he looks like, he does pretty much look like a pretentious prick so that detracts from me getting into his face character and all...but I dont know that for SURE, and I enjoy him as a wrestler, so I think he fits pretty well...just really overrated on the net thats all.
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Old 03-08-2008, 10:02 PM   #6
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I think his finish is pretty stupid. Other than that, I've enjoyed his 1 on1 feud matches, i.e., Stevie, Nitro and, even Chavo. In fact, I'd rather watch him than most of the top Raw guys, simply b/c they've been repetative a lot longer than Mr. Punk. As for being a lowlife individual, I think we can agree ol' Randy takes the cake on that one.
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He's pretty cool. Ending his streak against Hardcore Holly was a stupid move, and his recent run of legitmate losses to Chavo are pretty shitty, but other than that I've enjoyed him in the WWE. I think the Anaconda Vice looked cooler than GO2SLEEP. But GTS sounds cooler than Anaconda Vice. Take what you will from that.
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Old 03-09-2008, 12:21 AM   #8
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I've only seen his WWE work, but I've liked him so far. I agree that his loss to Holly was crap and that the GTS looks like shit, but I think the feud with Chavo is gonna help both guys in the end. I've really enjoyed their matches.
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Old 03-09-2008, 12:55 AM   #11
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Here is my opinion on this guy, now take this as constructive criticizm. But I don't think this guy fits in WWE. Now things have changed since the end of 2006, and the face of WWE has changed. I find the cat extremely overrated, and boring. Plus I find him to be quite the trashbag of a person in real-life, so what do you all think?
Im a little lost here, how exactly has the WWE changing since 2006 made him not fit in?

Personaly I dont see a lot of wrestling anymore so judging a full opinion of him is very hard but hes popular, his matches look good and he has a unique wrestling based look to him.

I dont know he will ever be an Austin or a Rock but I could easily see him getting a world title in the next two years.

And just out of curiosity how do you find him a trashbag of a person in real life? Did he personaly come piss in your cornflakes or did a freind of a mate whos sisters brothers cousin knows him say so?
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Old 03-09-2008, 03:02 AM   #12
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Well I am a person who posts on this discussion forum, similar to you.

I just don't see how this guy is so over, and is yet to really show anything great. I don't blame Punk for all of that neccassarily, but he's still overrated.
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Old 03-09-2008, 03:05 AM   #13
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And just out of curiosity how do you find him a trashbag of a person in real life? Did he personaly come piss in your cornflakes or did a freind of a mate whos sisters brothers cousin knows him say so?
I'm guessing the whole point of this thread was to make the 'real life' comment so people will ask.

Anyways, I think Punk is solid in the ring and a great promo guy and he could go 2 ways. I see his natural progression being moving to Smackdown, getting involved with Edge for a month or 2 then a heel turn. I think as a heel, he could make some real headway and be in a world title position in a year or 2. Most likely though he'll be left to get mad stale on ECW, start working Heat/squashes then 'future endeavours' time. Seriously think people would eat him up as a heel though.
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Old 03-09-2008, 03:33 AM   #14
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I'm guessing the whole point of this thread was to make the 'real life' comment so people will ask.

Anyways, I think Punk is solid in the ring and a great promo guy and he could go 2 ways. I see his natural progression being moving to Smackdown, getting involved with Edge for a month or 2 then a heel turn. I think as a heel, he could make some real headway and be in a world title position in a year or 2. Most likely though he'll be left to get mad stale on ECW, start working Heat/squashes then 'future endeavours' time. Seriously think people would eat him up as a heel though.
I agree with what you say, as far as the heel turn goes and also a title run in the future. Though he loses some matches that he really shouldn't, to me it seems like he is going to be pushed as a top star in the coming years. I think once they realize how much better he can be for them as a heel, he is going to become huge. The look he portrays as a heel, I think he can get great heat.

Heel Punk > Face Punk

Also for the statement made by the thread starter about him being a trashbag, do you even know him? Because if you don't, why make the statement?
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Old 03-09-2008, 04:39 AM   #15
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To add my 2 cents to this thread: I like CM Punk. Obviously being on ECW has kept him away from proper rivalries with big names, but in time he will have some killer fueds with people like Edge, Orton, Michaels, HHH, Kennedy, MVP, Jericho, Hardy etc.

His WWE stuff is watered down (for obvious reasons), but try and find some of his ROH stuff. Truly awesome. I didn't enjoy this FIP matches but his ROH matches were amazing.

Don't know him as a person so can't say, I've seen footage of him signing autographs etc, seems friendly enough I guess.
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Old 03-09-2008, 08:27 AM   #17
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I'd also like to ask how referring to him as a "trashbag of a person" would be perceived as "constructive criticism".
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Old 03-09-2008, 08:34 AM   #18
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lol 'constructive criticism'..yeah, sorry but just saying 'he's shit' isn't that constructive.
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Old 03-09-2008, 08:46 AM   #19
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Overrated, nothing special, crowd apathetic to him.

He's CM Punk.
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Overrated, nothing special, crowd apathetic to him.

He's CM Punk.
Wait...I thought he was the most over guy in WWE today?
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Old 03-09-2008, 09:59 AM   #23
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You know, I suppose he could be the most over guy and still have the crowd be apathetic towards him.
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Overrated, nothing special, crowd apathetic to him.

He's CM Punk.

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He has lost a fair amount of heat during his burial, let's be fair.

And before people start saying "he was ECW champ", "you can't win every match" etc. you don't have to be jobbed out to be buried. Look at Goldberg.
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He has lost a fair amount of heat during his burial, let's be fair.

And his overness was exxagerated from the beginning.
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And his overness was exxagerated from the beginning.
Yeah, the guy got a great reaction after his debut, continued to get good face reactions, got his name chanted over all the other "massive" faces at Survivor Series '06, and continues to be over despite often questionable booking of him.

Honestly, why can't people accept that CM Punk is just over? Granted, he has lost a lot of heat, recently, but the fans still, for the most part, reaction positively to the guy. That's more than what most guys on the roster get.

As for what CM Punk does at WrestleMania? I'm actually thinking we'll get Chavo Guerrero vs. CM Punk for the ECW Championship in an I Quit Match. I can just see their feud heating up between now and WrestleMania, and an I Quit Match seems like the most obvious "gimmick" to throw at the two.

Well, there's also Extreme Rules, but that doesn't seem "special" enough to blow off this feud, which has already had a bit of a hardcore match going for it, in the "Gulf of Mexico Match." I Quit is becoming a bit of a trademark for Chavo, and Punk is being tenacious in his chasing of the belt, so Chavo trying to get Punk to say "I quit" would make sense from a storyline point of view.

If Chavo and Punk get to work an I Quit Match at WrestleMania, I actually think it will be the sleeper match of the night, and would be great for both guys' careers.

As for what Punk should do post-WrestleMania, I think staying on ECW is actually the best thing for him. ECW and SmackDown! are pretty much conjoined brands right now. Punk can appear on SmackDown! whilst technically remaining with ECW. And Punk pretty much is ECW. Punk should be ECW Champion coming out of Mania, and a feud with Shelton Benjamin that elevates both men to main event level on the ECW/SmackDown! side of things would be great. A tease of an ECW Champion/World Heavyweight Champion rivalry would be interesting, too.
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And of course, Noid's got Punk's cock thoroughly lodged in his throat, so he's going to be completely dishonest about things. Again.
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Old 03-09-2008, 12:01 PM   #31
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And of course, Noid's got Punk's cock thoroughly lodged in his throat, so he's going to be completely dishonest about things. Again.
I'm not nearly as big on Punk as so many other people here. And yeah, I lied my ass off about Punk's reactions, I guess. Video proof that the events happened isn't nearly good enough.
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Old 03-09-2008, 12:39 PM   #32
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Punk is VERY over. Saying he isn't is pretty stupid.

Also, I agree that Punk doesn't fit in the WWE.
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Old 03-09-2008, 01:18 PM   #33
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No he doesn't, but I rather just pay a cable bill to watch him then chuck out money to a company that produced the Age Of Fall.

But Punk was one of the main players in ROH when it was the most awesome thing on the planet, besides a blowjob of course.
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Old 03-09-2008, 03:45 PM   #34
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I find him pretty boring now, they need to turn him heel and freshen him up somehow.

Also, GTS is such a shit finish, almost as bad as Polumbo's full throttle.
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I have no problem with the GTS, I just wish he started using the Vice again.
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Old 03-09-2008, 04:29 PM   #36
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Sorry, I should explain myself more fully - crowds on Raw and PPV's (other than ones where he uses DX catchphrases and has the benefit of two of the most over teams in WWE history in the ring with him, while being in his home town) are apathetic.

The piped in crowd LOVE him.
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Old 03-09-2008, 04:40 PM   #37
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The piped in crowd for a live ECW show? OK addy....and Philly isn't Punk's hometown.

He gets a solid reaction on ECW...cause he's the only decent thing going on the brand, put him on PPV you see that a lot of people don't watch ECW. Going to Smackdown following the Chavo feud would be the best thing for him.

I also agree that he should bring back the Vice
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The piped in crowd for a live ECW show?

You're right...That's physically impossible!

(I'll ignore the fact that as someone who trained for four years as an electronics technician and acoustic engineer, I could probably fucking do it myself, for the sake of humouring the tards.)
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Well of course it's possible, considering WCW was doing it for Goldie, and WWE did it for Cena on a couple occasions.

Punk's pop isn't dubbed in...mainly cause it's not a huge rockstar pop, or the standard WWE "one woman screams loudly with a mild pop behind it" dub.
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Why must people assume its a dubed pop? You really think he can't pull in that type of reaction?
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